Brian Devon

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Actually I never hear Democrats advocating the treasonous taking up of arms against the U.S. Govt. That kind of violent insurrectionist talk appears to be exclusively the domain of far right Republicans, hate groups, para-military criminals, and Tea Party folk. These folks for some bizarre reason want a replay of Ruby Ridge and Waco. These are people who are arrested adolescents who never got over their childhood fantasies of playing army man.

I think the Federal govt., at the right time, will deal with them in the proper fashion.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I used to be nasty and mean then I decided I was not going down to the level of the ones I let get to me. People who are true patriots obey the law and don't trash their leader. True Patriots don't interpret the constitution to mean they can do whatever they feel like when it comes to land use firearms and revolt.

saloopo Loc: Colorado

“No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the house. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen, if entertaining, as I do, opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely, and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The question before the house is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery. And in proportion to the magnitude of the subject, ought to be the freedom of debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time through fear of giving offense I should consider myself guilty of treason toward my country and of an act of disloyalty toward the majesty of Heaven which I revere above all earthly kings.

Mr. President it is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth – and listen to the song of the siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it might cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it.

Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775 (Liberty or Death speech)

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Bravo!

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Brian Devon

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Typical prudish Rethuglican goober. They like their air and water dirty and their language clean. Sorry to offend your delicate ears......asswipe.

Brian Devon

Patrick Henry, one of the founding slavers was a scam artist. When he spoke of liberty, it was the liberty to buy and sell humans like cattle and become very rich off of their free labor. He was a pompous pretentious ass.

He was the main point man for the Southern slavers. He pushed through the second amendment in order to make damn sure that the local posses down south would have the means to capture run-aways and return them to their unpaid chores.

He can be found in the hypocrites hall of fame, along with Jefferson, Washington, and Madison.

Fortunately the next generation of children is being taught the truth about these fake men of freedom as they are being taught the truth about the cruel and genocidal Columbus.


These "heroic men of democracy" are entitled to the same respect that one would reserve for Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth fairy. They are all just myths of childhood.

3jack

Great point, and the Canadians want to place all the risks of shipping this highly corrosive product solely on American soil with no benefits to America for taking that risk,

The Canadians have a deep water port and refineries in British Columbia, western Canada, I say build the pipeline to those facilities and keep it the hell out of this country.

Also, people in America needs to know the financial investment involvement of John Boehner in this project.
Google Boehner's Financial Disclosure Record.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Yep. Those ignorant, right wing bastards back in the 1700s got just what they deserved, taking up arms against the government like that. How dare they! After all, according to Brian, the ONLY reason they revolted was so rich Virginia planters could keep their slaves, conveniently forgetting the fact that every single American flagged slave ship was owned by northern interests, slaves were held legally in W VA, KY, MD, and NJ until 1865, that in IN, IL, Oregon Territory, and parts of MA, blacks were forbidden by law to move there, and that 9 of the 27 slave owners at the Constitutional Convention hailed from north of the Mason-Dixon Line. He also holds the position that the 2nd Amendment, (although it was the only one of the more than 180 originally proposed that was passed UNANIMOUSLY, of the 10 that became the Bill of Rights ), was only passed for the benefit of the 6 VA delegates who were slave owners, so they could, to paraphrase Brian's words, "control their property." Terrible, that the other 49 delegates, 28 of whom did not own slaves, were so craven that they went along with this, isn't it? His somewhat less than sweeping worldview also overlooks the fact that the Northern European whites he so despises were just about the only people in the world who were making any sort of effort to end slavery, the poor, oppressed, "people of color" he so vociferously defends being, at the time, quite comfortable with the practice of slavery. Outside of the Northern Europe and North America he so despises, slavery was practiced quite enthusiastically by the "people of color who then, as now, make up the majority of the world's population.
Brian, good little serf-in-training that he is, ignores the comments of the Founders who made it plain that the 2nd Amendment was for defense against not only foreign usurpers, but domestic ones. He has re-written history to fit his own subservient, parochial viewpoint.
If we are a country of laws, Patriotism lies in adherence to those laws, which are simply clarifications of Rights that were considered inherent to the Founders. These laws are defined by the Constitution, NOT by whatever governmental interpretation is popular at the time. According to Brian, the people who wrote the Declaration of Independence, fought the Revolutionary War, and wrote our Constitution were traitors. The oath I took upon beginning my military service stated I was to defend the CONSTITUTION of the US against all comers, both foreign and domestic. It said nothing about being a knee bending lickspittle to Plutocrats.

martychristiansoldier Loc: PA

In my eyes this is all just a big game, the pipeline was to be built in 4 phases, 3 of them have been done already, so it will be completed, when is anyone's guess.

Patty

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lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Of course they would, if money can be made. THEY aren't going to be touching it, real people are. If the damn thing goes boom, THEIR hands will be clean, figuratively and literally.

Retired669

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Retired669

Yes they will since they have all their mug shots... :thumbup: :lol: :lol: :lol:

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Not to mention the Patriot act, which has a rather large hammer in it's tool box.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

An interesting insight.