An act of war.....
Jan 6, 2020 09:46:07 #
working class stiff
Loc: N. Carolina
proud republican wrote:
It seems to me that the same electoral college put obama in the White House.....twice!!! And until President Trump winning 2016 election nobody had any problems with Electoral College!!! Kind of hypocritical of you guys,isn't it?? 
It's not about the electoral college. My response was to your assertion that 'the American people' put Trump into office. That is not true. Obama, btw, while put into office by the electoral college also had the majority of votes. Mr. Trump did not receive the majority of votes.
Jan 6, 2020 09:56:01 #
working class stiff wrote:
I have never questioned the legitimacy of either t... (show quote)
Just like the people (also half the country) who didn't vote for Obama. The difference is. THAT half didnt have a 3 year tantrum, nor was the media subverted.
Jan 6, 2020 10:37:04 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
American Vet wrote:
And the reality is the President is elected by the EC.
I suggest a basic Civics class for you.
I suggest a basic Civics class for you.
WTF? Exactly what I just said. Wish you’d quit getting my posts wrong.
Jan 6, 2020 10:40:52 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
working class stiff wrote:
It's not about the electoral college. My response was to your assertion that 'the American people' put Trump into office. That is not true. Obama, btw, while put into office by the electoral college also had the majority of votes. Mr. Trump did not receive the majority of votes.
Doesn’t matter. Candidates don’t campaign as if they need a majority (popular)of votes. Straw man and rather stupid argument. Look, if you don’t want to have a Republic then say so. I happen to think the EC was and remains brilliant and not because of Trump. You do know why it was designed?
Jan 6, 2020 10:41:11 #
JFlorio wrote:
WTF? Exact what I just said. Wish you’d quit getting my posts wrong.
My apologies: I believe I clicked on the wrong post....
Not sure I have gotten others wrong. If so, sorry.
Jan 6, 2020 11:00:11 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
American Vet wrote:
My apologies: I believe I clicked on the wrong post....
Not sure I have gotten others wrong. If so, sorry.
Not sure I have gotten others wrong. If so, sorry.
Accepted. Sorry for the shortness. Need coffee.
Jan 6, 2020 11:10:26 #
working class stiff
Loc: N. Carolina
JFlorio wrote:
Doesn’t matter. Candidates don’t campaign as if they need a majority (popular)of votes. Straw man and rather stupid argument. Look, if you don’t want to have a Republic then say so. I happen to think the EC was and remains brilliant and not because of Trump. You do know why it was designed?
Perhaps you did not read my opening sentence in my reply to you. I'm not one who wants to get rid of the electoral college. The House, however, is the appropriate venue for 'the people' to raise their voice. Right now the House is reigning in a President. That's it's job, in the republic.
My comments are neither stupid, nor straw men. They are an observation of the chaos around me.
Jan 6, 2020 11:56:47 #
proud republican wrote:
Was Iran attacking our Embassy in Iraq!!!!Since ... (show quote)
Why do you keep arguing the fact as to whether or not we were justified in killing Solemieni .To date,I have not seen any one that argues otherwise.I think it's because you're brilliant.Just as most Proud Republicans "R".
Jan 6, 2020 12:19:25 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
working class stiff wrote:
Perhaps you did not read my opening sentence in my reply to you. I'm not one who wants to get rid of the electoral college. The House, however, is the appropriate venue for 'the people' to raise their voice. Right now the House is reigning in a President. That's it's job, in the republic.
My comments are neither stupid, nor straw men. They are an observation of the chaos around me.
My comments are neither stupid, nor straw men. They are an observation of the chaos around me.
Perhaps I misunderstood. Are you trying, like many to say Trump is an illegitimate President because he didn't win the popular vote? I mean, I really don't understand the reasoning, especially if you are for the Electoral college. The House, is supposed to be the voice of the people. Exactly why the Founders (especially Hamilton) was against impeaching a President along purely party lines. Question: You are obviously "up" on the politics in Washington. Why in the world was this impeachment so urgent (Pelosi's words and others) then rushed through, and now held up? do you not see a conflict of statement and action here?
Jan 6, 2020 13:03:34 #
JFlorio wrote:
Well said. We have been fighting in the ME for twenty years. Congress should either declare war or demand we leave. They like having it both ways. .
Because they are getting lobbied by the military-industrial complex....
Jan 6, 2020 13:04:30 #
JFlorio wrote:
Accepted. Sorry for the shortness. Need coffee.
Coffee....the nectar of the Gods!!!!
Jan 6, 2020 13:04:31 #
proud republican wrote:
Was Iran attacking our Embassy in Iraq!!!!Since ... (show quote)
How quickly we jump to the other side of thinking, remember the reporter that got killed and cut up, since when do we go to war over a contractor that gets killed? These contractors in dangerously unstable areas in the middle east get paid stupidly excessive money because...wait for it...it is dangerous, it is hazardous duty pay.
Jan 6, 2020 13:22:10 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
woodguru wrote:
How quickly we jump to the other side of thinking, remember the reporter that got killed and cut up, since when do we go to war over a contractor that gets killed? These contractors in dangerously unstable areas in the middle east get paid stupidly excessive money because...wait for it...it is dangerous, it is hazardous duty pay.
Hint troll, We've been at war. Our embassy is sovereign territory. Under orders from this Iranian (dickhead) General, now dead, our embassy was attacked. So stick your America behind foreign policy.
Jan 6, 2020 13:30:42 #
proud republican
Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
woodguru wrote:
How quickly we jump to the other side of thinking, remember the reporter that got killed and cut up, since when do we go to war over a contractor that gets killed? These contractors in dangerously unstable areas in the middle east get paid stupidly excessive money because...wait for it...it is dangerous, it is hazardous duty pay.
Oh ok so according to you just because his job was dangerous we have no right to pay back??? With this President every life is important!! We been telling Iran to stop killing our citizens and that there will be retaliation if if they continue to be bad actors!!! President had every right to do what he did!!!Besides there was an imminent threat to our troops!!!!
Jan 6, 2020 13:42:24 #
working class stiff wrote:
So what? Trump has been calling Democrats traitors his entire term so far. That's the level of political dialogue we're at. And in reality the American people voted for Mrs. Clinton to be in the White House. It was the electoral college that put Trump in.
The Electoral College is the way the PEOPLE in this fine country VOTE! Enough of your "popular vote" & "Democracy" lies, the USA is a Constitutional Republic!
Your attempts at rationalizing Hillary's loss is destructive and WRONG!!
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