Try to think rationally
Jun 25, 2019 10:38:58 #
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Jun 25, 2019 13:11:06 #
son of witless wrote:
The most powerful country in the World cannot prev... (show quote)
Wait Wait Wait!???
No more waiting!
Right on, son!
LOLOLOL
"The most powerful country in the World cannot prevent millions of illegals from pouring over it's Southern border. The most powerful country in the World is too stupid to put up a fence. The most powerful country in the World is half ruled by the most stupid critters walking the Earth today. AKA Democrats.
But maybe you are right. One thing Democrats are good at is grabbing guns. WaIt, wait, they are good at silencing free speech. Wait, wait, wait, they are good at calling unborn babies non humans. Wait, wait, wait, wait they are really really good at allowing Men who think they are Women into women's restrooms, and letting them defeat women in women's athletics." - son
Jun 25, 2019 14:37:42 #
Larry the Legend wrote:
That might be advantageous, but joining a group just might also raise your profile and make you more of a target. It's a judgement call in my opinion. I like being a 'loner', but if push comes to shove, I'll be perfectly happy to organize the local guys into some kind of effective fighting force. We all know each other, so any organization would probably come naturally.
Aren't there already gun-rights groups? The NRA comes to mind. Or are you thinking more in terms of militias, which I believe there are already quite a few. It would in fact be a monumental task to confiscate guns in America. That doesn't mean the Democrat/socialists in Congress wouldn't try. With the left it is incrementalism. First it's one type of gun then another. And THAT is why when these anti-Constitutionalists openly start talking about gun control, (the euphemism is "common sense" gun laws,) it's a good idea to pay close attention. If a regime wants to be brutal enough, confiscation IS possible, look at the USSR. And the hate-filled rhetoric coming from the Democrat/socialists and their counterparts in their lap-dog media on an almost daily basis, does make you stop and wonder how far would these Democrat/socialists really be willing to go if they thought they had enough power to get away with it. I don't think we are anywhere close to THAT yet, but it does take watching.
Jun 25, 2019 14:55:23 #
archie bunker wrote:
It ain't gonna happen, hug! There's hundreds of millions of guns, and billions of rounds of ammunition in the hands of law abiding citizens. That's a scrap they don't want.
Ronald Stolarczyk of Oneida County, New York would strongly disagree with that statement...
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/06/20/this-new-york-man-got-arrested-after-defending-his-own-home/
"He’s now facing felony charges for lawfully protecting himself against criminals without first getting the county’s permission to possess a handgun in his home—something that would cost him hundreds of dollars and months of paperwork."
There's a lot more where that came from. Stories like this come out every day.
Jun 25, 2019 15:11:54 #
Ricktloml wrote:
Aren't there already gun-rights groups? The NRA co... (show quote)
"I don't think we are anywhere close to THAT yet, but it does take watching"
Yes it does!
Jun 25, 2019 15:24:35 #
Morgan wrote:
Right, unfortunately, we're heading into 2020, things have changed as far as weaponry
Right, unfortunately, we're heading into 2020, things have changed as far as weaponry
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You really think the most powerful country in the world could not, under martial law, confiscate all the guns from the people "with a fight"? Really, that's some amazing reasoning.
Is America a government with a country populated with human subjects?
Or is America a nation of free people with a government?
From whom does America derive its power, the government or the people?
Who owns the Constitution of the United States, the government or the people?
There are 4 million people serving in our federal government, 1.4 million of them are military personnel (2.2 million if you include NG and active reservists).
90% of military personnel are in support, administrative and technological positions. 10% serve in combat arms.
There are 21 million people serving in local, state, and federal governments. Approximately 1 million of them are in police departments and LE agencies.
There are 320 million citizens of the United States, 137 million of them own guns.
Imposition of nationwide martial law will directly effect ALL citizens, not just those with guns. Martial law might involve 2 or 3 million troops and police. IF all troops and police participate.
IOW, If martial law is imposed nationwide, civil unrest, lawlessness, chaos and disorder will erupt to the greatest extent in the cities and major metro areas. Communications will break down, food, fuel, medical and other supplies will be disrupted, medical and emergency personnel will be overwhelmed, might even be major power outages.
2 or 3 million troops, police and first responders are going to be busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
In rural areas, such as where I live, we'll have little to worry about. We have far too many options, plus our sheriff and his deputies are resolute in their support of our constitution.
In 1776, the U.S. population was 2.5 million, one third of them (82,000) fought the best trained and equipped army in the world and defeated it. MAGA!
The American edge decreases considerably, however, when its troops have to deploy for peacekeeping or counterinsurgency operations which leave them exposed to low-tech ambushes. “With the possible exceptions of night-vision devices, Global Positioning Systems, and shoulder-fired missiles,” writes retired Major General Robert Scales, a former commander of the Army War College, “there is no appreciable technological advantage for an American infantryman when fighting the close battle against even the poorest, most primitive enemy.”
If you believe the government is capable of maintaining perfect order and discipline in a martial law situation, you are delusional.
Jun 25, 2019 18:52:48 #
debeda wrote:
Socialism and authoritarianism go hand in hand in progression. You are right, we must maintain our constitutional government, including of course the Bill of Rights
They go hand in hand due to total socialism is forced onto them. We agree.
Jun 25, 2019 19:59:05 #
lpnmajor wrote:
We've been hearing for years that certain elements... (show quote)
Our nation is not a police state. The majority of gun crimes are committed with illegal weapons. It is not the law abiding citizen who need their guns confiscated, but criminals who use them illegally.
Jun 25, 2019 20:13:17 #
Mr. Rogers wrote:
Our nation is not a police state. The majority of gun crimes are committed with illegal weapons. It is not the law abiding citizen who need their guns confiscated, but criminals who use them illegally.
TRUE STORY, Mr
Jun 25, 2019 20:14:45 #
Exactly, but the left constantly portrays law abiding gun owners as bad people who have not yet committed a crime.
Jun 25, 2019 20:28:26 #
Nexialist wrote:
Exactly, but the left constantly portrays law abiding gun owners as bad people who have not yet committed a crime.
Well, in their defense the left isnt too familiar with logic
Jun 25, 2019 22:32:24 #
debeda wrote:
Well, in their defense the left isnt too familiar with logic
Unfortunately the left is devious beyond words, and will lie, cheat and probably kill if they thought they could get away with it.
Jun 25, 2019 23:15:11 #
Ricktloml wrote:
Unfortunately the left is devious beyond words, and will lie, cheat and probably kill if they thought they could get away with it.
I agree!! BUT - they're not logical or fact based. They're kinda like kids, they change the facts to get their way
Jun 26, 2019 08:15:19 #
Ricktloml wrote:
Unfortunately the left is devious beyond words, and will lie, cheat and probably kill if they thought they could get away with it.
Unfortunately; some of them are very nasty people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffb_5X59_DA&t=115s
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