TexaCan,
Butt out of the conversation its between myself and mwdegutis.
And you have this anti-Catholic vehement streak. Where do they teach you this fundamentalist baptist hog-wallop compost crap at Church and from the minster.
Your sick TexaCan, deadly sick, "Pay to get out of Purgatory, your nuts . . .
And to top it off you can't answer the question either . . . Paradise is not heaven, in all accountings and definitions in the Bible . . .
So I'll pose the question a third time ?
And will add paradise to the list of 7 places where a sinful soul resided before purification . . .
So where does the soul reside in the state of sin? There are only a few that get the v line to heaven . . .
Because I don't believe The Protestant theory.
Once saved, always saved. And you don't get a direct path to heaven.
Because we all sin.
Then where does the sinful soul reside ?
Because the soul needs to be purified ? before it goes to heaven and be with our Lord Jesus Christ and the Saints . . .
And here are examples of where the sinful soul resides ? Where does the soul reside, this is not a trick question ?
Give your best opinion ? And tell me why.
1.Gehenna,
2. Hell,
3. Hades,
4. The land Beyond,
5. Sheol,
6. Purgatory
7. Paradise, because the thief was also murder who committed grave sin . . . I don't think he gets to go to heaven right away.
8. What about the soul that has not been baptized, can that soul get into heaven ? Where does his soul resides ?
Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Once the sin has been purified from all taint of sin, then it goes to heaven or if the soul can't be purified it goes to hell, don't you agree ?
But where does the soul reside in the meantime, can't be heaven ?
Take your pick, provide biblical reference for your decision ?
1. Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
2. Ephesians 1:7
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,
3. Romans 10:9
Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
4. Malachi 3:1-18
“Behold, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me. And the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says the Lord of hosts.
But who can endure the day of his coming, and who can stand when he appears?
For he is like a refiner's fire and like fullers' soap.
He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, and they will bring offerings in righteousness to the Lord.
Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to the Lord as in the days of old and as in former years. “Then I will draw near to you for judgment. I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, against the adulterers, against those who swear falsely, against those who oppress the hired worker in his wages, the widow and the fatherless, against those who thrust aside the sojourner, and do not fear me, says the Lord of hosts. ...
5. 1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
6. 2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.
7. Matthew 3:12
His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.”
8. Micah 4:12
But they do not know the thoughts of the Lord; they do not understand his plan, that he has gathered them as sheaves to the threshing floor.
9. 1 John 1:7-9
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10. Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
11. 1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
12. Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tried you in the furnace of affliction.
13. Proverbs 17:3
The crucible is for silver, and the furnace is for gold, and the Lord tests hearts.
14. 1 Peter 1:7
So that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
15. Zechariah 13:9
And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call upon my name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are my people’; and they will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’”
16. Psalm 66:10
For you, O God, have tested us; you have tried us as silver is tried.
17. Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times.
18. Revelation 3:18
I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see.
19. 1 Peter 4:12
Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you.
20. 1 Peter 1:6-7
In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, so that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
21. Hebrews 9:27
And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment,
22. 1 Corinthians 3:15
If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
23. Acts 3:19
Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out,
24. Revelation 21:27
But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.
25. Matthew 12:32
And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
26. Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.
27. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15
For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
28. Luke 16:19-31
“There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. ...
29. 2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.
30. 1 Corinthians 3:13
Each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done.
31. Revelation 20:13-14
And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
32.Hebrews 12:29
For our God is a consuming fire.
33. Hebrews 12:23
And to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,
34. Mark 9:49
For everyone will be salted with fire.
35. 2 Peter 2:4
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment;
36. 1 Peter 1:7
So that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
37. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8
And to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
38. 1 Thessalonians 4:13
But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope.
39. 2 Corinthians 7:1
Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God.
40. Acts 2:31
He foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption.
41. Romans 14:10-12
Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.
TexaCan wrote:
Bullshi-t, thats not an answer it's an opinion and a diversion straw-man
Did Jesus tell one of the criminals hanging next to him that he would have to be purified before he could be with him in Paradise later that day?
Nope! Did He say anything about someone having to pay to get him out of Purgatory? Nope!
And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” Luke 23:43
The Bible does not teach that our sins must be purified after death! Jesus paid the price for all those who are saved!
Galatians 3:13-15 Ephesians 1:7 1 Peter 2:24 1 Corinthians 6:20 Romans 5:8
Purgatory was nothing more than a means to make money for the Church’s coffers! To bad you refuse the promise made by Jesus Christ Himself instead of greedy men!
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