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LOL . . .

Pat yourself on the back your and baptist imbecile sycophant . . . beliefs . . .

I gave you over 45 Biblical verses, but you selectively ignored the biblical passages . . . Hmmmmm who is the selective lier now . . .

Paradice, where can you show the OPP religious forum where that is to a murder and a thief hanging on a cross.

Nothing gets into heaven that has sin, or the taint of sin until it is purified on the threshing floor . . . and is purified like gold and silver, as our sinless souls should be

You haven't converted anyone, or convinced anyone of your lies and deceit . . .

You haven't one any one over . .

and You Haven't produced any factual substantive information to move a fly over to your scat-compost beliefs . . .

You present no doctrinal Fundamentalist beliefs.

I challenge you to list 10 doctrinal Fundamentalist beliefs . . .

You are all laughing jokers and only speak in generalities, never anything specific, and can even answer a simple question posed yo you.


Your position is to attack, never to have a real dialogue, and to evade answers, when anyone comes to close, to the Fundamentalist evangelical heart . . .


From now on I'm going to change the tactics and put you 5 horse-men and Horse-women of the Protestant Fundamentalist Apocalypse on the Defensive


Things are going to get interesting,

mwdegutis got the first taste two days ago, I didn't get a response back from him, except for a no reply answer . . .

And you will not like it . .

You only peddle your hate-mongering fundelmentimst evangelical hate speech, and prejudicial compost . .


let the Games begin . . .

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So what's the problem with this theory? Well, the problem is that this doctrine is not rooted in Scripture. And on top of that, it invites sinners to assume the blood of Jesus and the cross of Christ are not enough to make a believer completely holy in God's sight. Man needs "more" purification, or so goes the misguided line of reasoning.

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This astounding declaration is not man's opinion. It is God's Word on the matter, period.

Now either the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross has the power to make a believer completely holy in God's sight, or it doesn't. And if it does, then who do you suppose would be interested in trying to water down the biblical doctrine of justification through faith? (Gal. 2:16) Does that sound like something God would do, or is the doctrine of purgatory more in line with doctrines the devil would likely spout?

Since Satan is "the father of lies," (John 8:44) our invisible adversary tells unbelievers: "You're good enough to get into heaven by your sincerity and your morality." Meanwhile, he uses a different line of deception when accusing believers: "You're not pure enough! You know you're a terrible person. And you call yourself a Christian...ha...what a joke!"

The devil hopes to take our eyes off Jesus and the cross where our redemption was earned "once for all." (Romans 6:10) If the prince of darkness can't convince you to reject the cross, his minions work overtime trying to get you to "add to the cross." Satan knows that when it comes to a person's approach to salvation, "Jesus plus something equals nothing." Adding to the cross is just as deadly as rejecting the cross, and no one knows this fact better than the devil himself.Detained pastor


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So what's the problem with this theory? Well, the problem is that this doctrine is not rooted in Scripture. And on top of that, it invites sinners to assume the blood of Jesus and the cross of Christ are not enough to make a believer completely holy in God's sight. Man needs "more" purification, or so goes the misguided line of reasoning.

In reality, every believer is already completely holy in God's sight as a result of the Savior's sacrifice on the cross 2000 years ago. This complete cleansing flows from the miracle of the cross. (1 Peter 2:24,25) Thankfully, every Christian is already "seated with Christ in the heavenly realms." (Eph. 2:6) The complete purification of a sinner's soul occurs the moment the new birth takes place (John 3:6,7) in a person's heart through faith in Christ. (John 1:12; John 3:16)

"We have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." (Hebrews 10:10)


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This astounding declaration is not man's opinion. It is God's Word on the matter, period.

Now either the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross has the power to make a believer completely holy in God's sight, or it doesn't. And if it does, then who do you suppose would be interested in trying to water down the biblical doctrine of justification through faith? (Gal. 2:16) Does that sound like something God would do, or is the doctrine of purgatory more in line with doctrines the devil would likely spout?

Since Satan is "the father of lies," (John 8:44) our invisible adversary tells unbelievers: "You're good enough to get into heaven by your sincerity and your morality." Meanwhile, he uses a different line of deception when accusing believers: "You're not pure enough! You know you're a terrible person. And you call yourself a Christian...ha...what a joke!"

The devil hopes to take our eyes off Jesus and the cross where our redemption was earned "once for all." (Romans 6:10) If the prince of darkness can't convince you to reject the cross, his minions work overtime trying to get you to "add to the cross." Satan knows that when it comes to a person's approach to salvation, "Jesus plus something equals nothing." Adding to the cross is just as deadly as rejecting the cross, and no one knows this fact better than the devil himself.


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Remember, Satan is an individual angel who has been manipulating a team of evil angels (demons) for thousands of years. And so he has had plenty of time to refine his craft. The devil doesn't want you to know the truth, whether you are a believer or an unbeliever. Either way, Lucifer's bag of tricks and seductive lies are lined up and always ready to be unleashed at a moment's notice.

No wonder Scripture warns believers to beware of demonic doctrines.

"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons....they forbid people to marry, etc." (1 Timothy 4:1,3) And of all the dangerous doctrines that have been conjured up over the centuries, the doctrine of purgatory is a real doozy!

The Holy Spirit certainly did not invent the doctrine of purgatory. The third Person of the Trinity will never guide you to add something to the cross in your quest to be completely purified.
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Some people are taught to deal with their guilt by placing confidence in the doctrine of "purgatory." I suppose you could compare it to a student working on a project to gain "extra credit" to make up for some bad grades. Unfortunately, the doctrine of purgatory provides false hope because it is based not in fact, but in fantasy. The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," and is for those who are said to be going to heaven but are nevertheless "still imperfectly purified." (CCC 1030) According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, purgatory is "a place or condition of temporal punishment" for a Christian after death. The punishment and purification process in purgatory is said to "purge" away certain sins that still require cleansing.

So what's the problem with this theory? Well, the problem is that this doctrine is not rooted in Scripture. And on top of that, it invites sinners to assume the blood of Jesus and the cross of Christ are not enough to make a believer completely holy in God's sight. Man needs "more" purification, or so goes the misguided line of reasoning.

In reality, every believer is already completely holy in God's sight as a result of the Savior's sacrifice on the cross 2000 years ago. This complete cleansing flows from the miracle of the cross. (1 Peter 2:24,25)

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

If you would read God's word instead of Satan's lies the answer is in plain scripture.

The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:14-31)

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He won't. Doc has two modes. Calling people stupid, ignorant, etc, etc, etc, and posting a lot of articles.

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Please . . . Don’t Call Protestants . . . Christians . . . They Are Heretics

Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/m013rpProtestantsChristians.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPC0N0U0aco

It is very common today to hear Catholics call a Protestant “a Christian,” or even, “a good Christian.”

In the United States, it was already a practice before Vatican II because of the tendency of American Catholics to accommodate Protestantism, whose tonus dominated the social and business spheres.

Then, there was the question of adaptation as prominent Protestants joined the Catholic faith, or Catholics entered into marriages with Protestants.

It was just easier to call everyone “Christian.” Supposedly it underplayed differences.

It was meant to create the impression that Catholics and Protestants were cousins in one big, happy family.



Pope Leo XIII condemned this tolerance toward Protestantism under the name of Americanism, the heresy of Americanism, to be more precise.

After Vatican II, needless to say, the practice of calling Protestants Christias has snowballed, with the official conciliar documents assuming this same impropriety.

Hence, the Holy See, Prelates and priests have made its use as widespread as possible.

Accommodation to Protestantism in our days has reached such a point that some Catholics, to distinguish between Catholics and their Protestant “separated brethren,” call themselves Catholic Christians.

A redundancy if I've ever heard one.

Only Catholics can be true Christians.

No one who dissents from the Roman Catholic Church can be a Christian.



The terms are synonymous.

Every time I hear the term Christian used for Protestants, I cringe. Its usage clearly nourishes a trend toward a dangerous religious indifferentism.

Which denies the duty of man to worship God by believing and practicing the one true Catholic Religion.



It is an implicit admission that those who deny the one Faith can nonetheless be Christians, that is, be in the Church of Christ.

Inherently it leads to the progressivist notion that men can be saved in any religion that accepts Christ as Savior.

A “good Lutheran,” a “good Anglican,” a “good Presbyterian –

What does it matter so long as they are good people and sincerely love Christ?

Regardless of who is applying this usage today, I want to stress that it is at variance with the entire tradition of the Catholic Church until the Council.

To consider heretics as Christians is not the teaching of the Church.



Before Vatican II, the Magisterium was always very clear:

It is not a matter of an individual’s character or traits.

No one can be in the Church of Christ without professing the ensemble of the truths of Catholic Faith, being in unity with the Chair of Peter and receiving the same Seven Sacraments.

The only Christian is one who accepts Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Church he established.

Who can have God for Father and not accept the Church for Mother? (Pope Pius IX, Singulari quidem of March 17, 1856)

Who can accept the spouse Christ, and not his mystical bride the Church?

Who can separate the Head, the only begotten Son of God, from the body, which is His Church?
(Pope Leo XIII, Satis cognitum of June 29, 1896). It is not possible.



In short, only those who profess the one Catholic Faith and are united with the Mystical Body of Christ are members of the Church of Christ.

And only those members can legitimately bear the title of honor of Christian.

The Protestant sect started as a revolt, protesting the Church of Christ and, pretending to accept Christ without Peter, the authority He established on earth.

With this split, they left the Church and became heretics.

This used to be clearly said and understood, without sentimental fear of offending one’s neighbors or relatives:

A Protestant is a heretic because he severed himself from the Body of the Church.

He is not a Christian, and certainly not a “good Christian.”



Scriptures confirm this truth

My friend Jan thought I was being too severe on this topic.

“You’re making a mountain out of a molehill,” She said.

“Don’t Scriptures teach us to love our neighbor and not be judgmental?”



It is the same old post Vatican II story, claiming that it is “judgmental” to correct bad practices and false teachings and arguing with disputable interpretations of Scriptures.

Well, despite these subjective interpretations, the inspired words of Scriptures provide an unambiguous defense that the custody of the vineyard has been committed by Christ to the Catholic Church alone.

Let me quote just a few verses:

“He who hears you (Peter) hears me, and he who rejects you, rejects me, and he who rejects me, rejects him who sent me.
(Lk 10:16).”


It could not be clearer:

The Protestant who rejects the head, rejects Christ himself, and should not be granted the name Christian.

Christ establishes one Church with a single head:

"And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
(Matt 16:19).

St. Paul is severe in his condemnation of false teachers, e.g. Protestants:

“If any man preaches any other Gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
(Gal 1: 9).

In another passage he instructs Catholics to remove themselves from the bad society of non-Catholics:

“And we charge you, brethren, in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ that you withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the Tradition which they have received of us.”
(2 Thess 3:6).

The Apostle St. John forbade any intercourse with heretics: “If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house or welcome him.”
(2 Jo 1:10)”

Holy Scriptures are clear on the point that only those who belong to the one Church founded by Christ, the Catholic Church, can rightfully be considered Christians.



Popes reiterate this teaching

The traditional Papal Magisterium was also clear on this topic. Let me offer a few texts by way of exemplification.

Pius XII stated unequivocally:

“To be Christian one must be Roman.

One must recognize the oneness of Christ’s Church that is governed by one successor of the Prince of the Apostles who is the Bishop of Rome, Christ’s Vicar on earth”
(Allocution to the Irish pilgrims of October 8, 1957).

How is it possible to be clearer than this about those who can be called Christian?

Leo XIII makes it plain that separated members cannot belong to the same body: “So long as the member was on the body, it lived; separated, it lost its life.

Thus the man, so long as he lives on the body of the [Catholic] Church, he is a Christian; separated from her, he becomes a heretic”
(Encyclical Satis cognitum of June 29, 1896).

Emphasizing the fate of those who break away from the one Faith, he says:

“Whoever leaves her [the Catholic Church] departs from the will and command of Our Lord Jesus Christ; leaving the path of salvation, he enters that of perdition.

Whoever is separated from the Church is united to an adulteress.”
(ibid.).

Certainly, they do not share with us the same title of Christian.

Pope Pius IX stated:

“He who abandons the Chair of Peter on which the Church is founded, is falsely persuaded that he is in the Church of Christ.”
(Quartus supra of January 6 1873, n. 8).



In the Syllabus of Modern Errors,

The proposition that Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion was specifically condemned.
(Pius IX, n. 18)(1).

Therefore, there is only one Christian Church, the Catholic Church, and only those who belong to it should rightfully be called Christians.



How to fight Americanism?

Many persons ask me:

What can I do to fight Progressivism?

Others have requested:
Give me some specific examples of how I can combat Americanism.



Let me offer one concrete way to fight in yourself the tendency toward accommodation with Protestantism.

When you catch yourself calling a Protestant a “Christian,”

Stop and correct yourself.

Call him a Protestant.

It is a way to affirm that you do not accept the Protestant errors and that you acknowledge it for the terrible thing it is:

Protestants denied many Catholic dogmas and for this reason caused that first major crack in the unity of the Catholic Church that caused untold damage to Christendom and the perdition of those souls adhering to it.

It is a small thing, but by such small customs we as a people have been walking steadily toward religious indifferentism.

It is time to set some roadblocks on that path. We should not veil in ambiguous terms our love for the ensemble of the Catholic Faith.

The only true union possible for Catholics with Protestants is by their return to the one true Church of Christ, the Catholic Church.

Only with such a return can they rightfully call themselves Christians.

Numerous traditional Catholic teachings on the this topic can be found in Atila S. Guimarães, Aniums Delendi II, Los Angeles: TIA, 2002, pp. 205-217.
See also "Christian Ecuemnism" in Simon Galloway, No Crisis in the Church? New Olive Press, 2006, pp. 1-51.

Posted on February 6, 2007

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https://www.traditioninaction.org/Cultural/D015cpProtestantMentalities.htm

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Please . . . Don’t Call Protestants . . . Christians . . . They Are Heretics

Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.

https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/m013rpProtestantsChristians.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPC0N0U0aco

It is very common today to hear Catholics call a Protestant “a Christian,” or even, “a good Christian.”

In the United States, it was already a practice before Vatican II because of the tendency of American Catholics to accommodate Protestantism, whose tonus dominated the social and business spheres.

Then, there was the question of adaptation as prominent Protestants joined the Catholic faith, or Catholics entered into marriages with Protestants.

It was just easier to call everyone “Christian.” Supposedly it underplayed differences.

It was meant to create the impression that Catholics and Protestants were cousins in one big, happy family.



Pope Leo XIII condemned this tolerance toward Protestantism under the name of Americanism, the heresy of Americanism, to be more precise.

After Vatican II, needless to say, the practice of calling Protestants Christias has snowballed, with the official conciliar documents assuming this same impropriety.

Hence, the Holy See, Prelates and priests have made its use as widespread as possible.

Accommodation to Protestantism in our days has reached such a point that some Catholics, to distinguish between Catholics and their Protestant “separated brethren,” call themselves Catholic Christians.

A redundancy if I've ever heard one.

Only Catholics can be true Christians.

No one who dissents from the Roman Catholic Church can be a Christian.



The terms are synonymous.

Every time I hear the term Christian used for Protestants, I cringe. Its usage clearly nourishes a trend toward a dangerous religious indifferentism.

Which denies the duty of man to worship God by believing and practicing the one true Catholic Religion.



It is an implicit admission that those who deny the one Faith can nonetheless be Christians, that is, be in the Church of Christ.

Inherently it leads to the progressivist notion that men can be saved in any religion that accepts Christ as Savior.

A “good Lutheran,” a “good Anglican,” a “good Presbyterian –

What does it matter so long as they are good people and sincerely love Christ?

Regardless of who is applying this usage today, I want to stress that it is at variance with the entire tradition of the Catholic Church until the Council.

To consider heretics as Christians is not the teaching of the Church.



Before Vatican II, the Magisterium was always very clear:

It is not a matter of an individual’s character or traits.

No one can be in the Church of Christ without professing the ensemble of the truths of Catholic Faith, being in unity with the Chair of Peter and receiving the same Seven Sacraments.

The only Christian is one who accepts Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Church he established.

Who can have God for Father and not accept the Church for Mother? (Pope Pius IX, Singulari quidem of March 17, 1856)

Who can accept the spouse Christ, and not his mystical bride the Church?

Who can separate the Head, the only begotten Son of God, from the body, which is His Church?
(Pope Leo XIII, Satis cognitum of June 29, 1896). It is not possible.



In short, only those who profess the one Catholic Faith and are united with the Mystical Body of Christ are members of the Church of Christ.

And only those members can legitimately bear the title of honor of Christian.

The Protestant sect started as a revolt, protesting the Church of Christ and, pretending to accept Christ without Peter, the authority He established on earth.

With this split, they left the Church and became heretics.

This used to be clearly said and understood, without sentimental fear of offending one’s neighbors or relatives:

A Protestant is a heretic because he severed himself from the Body of the Church.

He is not a Christian, and certainly not a “good Christian.”



Scriptures confirm this truth

My friend Jan thought I was being too severe on this topic.

“You’re making a mountain out of a molehill,” She said.

“Don’t Scriptures teach us to love our neighbor and not be judgmental?”



It is the same old post Vatican II story, claiming that it is “judgmental” to correct bad practices and false teachings and arguing with disputable interpretations of Scriptures.

Well, despite these subjective interpretations, the inspired words of Scriptures provide an unambiguous defense that the custody of the vineyard has been committed by Christ to the Catholic Church alone.

Let me quote just a few verses:

“He who hears you (Peter) hears me, and he who rejects you, rejects me, and he who rejects me, rejects him who sent me.
(Lk 10:16).”


It could not be clearer:

The Protestant who rejects the head, rejects Christ himself, and should not be granted the name Christian.

Christ establishes one Church with a single head:

"And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
(Matt 16:19).

St. Paul is severe in his condemnation of false teachers, e.g. Protestants:

“If any man preaches any other Gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
(Gal 1: 9).

In another passage he instructs Catholics to remove themselves from the bad society of non-Catholics:

“And we charge you, brethren, in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ that you withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the Tradition which they have received of us.”
(2 Thess 3:6).

The Apostle St. John forbade any intercourse with heretics: “If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house or welcome him.”
(2 Jo 1:10)”

Holy Scriptures are clear on the point that only those who belong to the one Church founded by Christ, the Catholic Church, can rightfully be considered Christians.



Popes reiterate this teaching

The traditional Papal Magisterium was also clear on this topic. Let me offer a few texts by way of exemplification.

Pius XII stated unequivocally:

“To be Christian one must be Roman.

One must recognize the oneness of Christ’s Church that is governed by one successor of the Prince of the Apostles who is the Bishop of Rome, Christ’s Vicar on earth”
(Allocution to the Irish pilgrims of October 8, 1957).

How is it possible to be clearer than this about those who can be called Christian?

Leo XIII makes it plain that separated members cannot belong to the same body: “So long as the member was on the body, it lived; separated, it lost its life.

Thus the man, so long as he lives on the body of the [Catholic] Church, he is a Christian; separated from her, he becomes a heretic”
(Encyclical Satis cognitum of June 29, 1896).

Emphasizing the fate of those who break away from the one Faith, he says:

“Whoever leaves her [the Catholic Church] departs from the will and command of Our Lord Jesus Christ; leaving the path of salvation, he enters that of perdition.

Whoever is separated from the Church is united to an adulteress.”
(ibid.).

Certainly, they do not share with us the same title of Christian.

Pope Pius IX stated:

“He who abandons the Chair of Peter on which the Church is founded, is falsely persuaded that he is in the Church of Christ.”
(Quartus supra of January 6 1873, n. 8).



In the Syllabus of Modern Errors,

The proposition that Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion was specifically condemned.
(Pius IX, n. 18)(1).

Therefore, there is only one Christian Church, the Catholic Church, and only those who belong to it should rightfully be called Christians.



How to fight Americanism?

Many persons ask me:

What can I do to fight Progressivism?

Others have requested:
Give me some specific examples of how I can combat Americanism.



Let me offer one concrete way to fight in yourself the tendency toward accommodation with Protestantism.

When you catch yourself calling a Protestant a “Christian,”

Stop and correct yourself.

Call him a Protestant.

It is a way to affirm that you do not accept the Protestant errors and that you acknowledge it for the terrible thing it is:

Protestants denied many Catholic dogmas and for this reason caused that first major crack in the unity of the Catholic Church that caused untold damage to Christendom and the perdition of those souls adhering to it.

It is a small thing, but by such small customs we as a people have been walking steadily toward religious indifferentism.

It is time to set some roadblocks on that path. We should not veil in ambiguous terms our love for the ensemble of the Catholic Faith.

The only true union possible for Catholics with Protestants is by their return to the one true Church of Christ, the Catholic Church.

Only with such a return can they rightfully call themselves Christians.

Numerous traditional Catholic teachings on the this topic can be found in Atila S. Guimarães, Aniums Delendi II, Los Angeles: TIA, 2002, pp. 205-217.
See also "Christian Ecuemnism" in Simon Galloway, No Crisis in the Church? New Olive Press, 2006, pp. 1-51.

Posted on February 6, 2007

Related Topics of Interest

The Lutheran and Calvinist Mentalities
https://www.traditioninaction.org/Cultural/D015cpProtestantMentalities.htm

TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!

The only person that has spewed hate on this thread is you in your immature insults and lies! You asked Mwdegutis a question and he answered it, but you have not answered his question nor have you answered mine! You never answer a question, you just copy and paste! Have you ever actually studied the Bible...... don't worry, I don't expect an answer!

The majority of the 45 verses were on Judgement, NOT purgatory! It's clear that you don't know the difference! Not a one of them said that a person had to purify their sins before being with our Savior, not a single one!

Why are you obsessed with using words alluding to sh-----t in your comments? Is this what they teach in your Priest School? Nah! I don't think so, it's just your inability to control your anger!

Listing 10 doctrinal Fundamentalists beliefs has absolutely nothing to do with PURGATORY, nor will you find purgatory in any of our beliefs! Having a problem following your own thread, are you?

Doc! You are impossible to have an actual dialogue with because all you do is use pages and pages and pages of cut and paste and your unending supply of "illiterate" insults !

And as far as "things are going to get interesting".............We can only hope!

And then he said! 😂 " let the Games begin "

Oh Goody! Goody!

Doc110 Loc: York PA

TexaCan,

Prove the article wrong, since you a protestant heretic and know everything.

Prove the Article wrong and use history and the Bible, not taken out of context and not a literal Protestant devices that you use . . .


Ahhhh - - the joy of creating strife and division !!!

Yup . . . that all Protestant are, is schismatic Heretics, separated from the One true Church founded by Jesus Christ himself.

Yeah religious sectarianism, . . . that's why Protestants just throw out 1,484 years of Christian Catholic doctrine, or 1,987 years old present day biblical teaching, and Christian Church oral and written historical traditions.

And then you Protestant try saying, we have new Protestant religion, Which has been proven time wrong, biblically, time again.

Protestantism, Its just a man-Made fabricated invention, by Martin Luther, Jon Calvin and other, with a new total different teaching doctrines theology and philosophy loosely united by the existing Bible's.

Protestantism, ls just another man-made religion, that tries to unite It's self to the Christian bible.


That's a self serving Protestant religious purpose, don't you think . . . ?


On top of that, Martin Luther ("Dumbed-Down") the KIV Bible, which further lead's up to independent Bible self-interpretation against a strict Catholic Magisterium biblical teaching.

Which leads us to the; 30,000 plus, present modern day schismatic Protestant Churches today and growing. It's a literal translation and self-interpretation of the 1611 KIV bible.

And the consequences of this man-Made authority doctrines, by the Protestant 30,000 religion's and the laity Protestants, or little Pope's, thinking they can interpret bible any which way they want or think they can.

We haven't spoken about the charismatic Evangelicals and the fundamentalists Protestants, that is a totally new schismatic protestant church unto themselves.
They believe in anything by scriptural literal verses and at the same time totally not unified with so many contradictions and believing a false Jesus.

The "5 Horse-men Horse-women of the Protestant Fundamentalist Apocalypse.” They will try and (brow-beat) you into Protestant evangelical fundamentalists religious submission.

We Catholics have a saying; From John Henry Newman a convert to Catholicism in the 1890's very controversial.
To be deep in history, is to cease being Protestant.

Thats why the Protestant heretics, don't want to talk about the history or the History of the Catholic Church.

For example a manuscript found in 1887 in Constantinople dating back to the mid to late 1st century AD.

It's called, The Didache “The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles, The Early Church Patristic Fathers.
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-148097-1.html

In the manuscript, are the teachings and the 7 sacraments practices and the Catholic Mass liturgy, of the Early Christian Church and is still practiced 1,987 years to this day.

Also by that time "The Church" started to call themselves "The Universal Church" or from the Greek, The Catholic Church.

Can't change history or Church history, that's just the way it is.

So if Martin Luther, John Calvin, Zwingli and other reformists, if they had this document, The Didache" back in the AD 1517 Protestant reformation, would they have the 7 Sacraments in their protestant churches ?

I'm not too sure, because Luther, Calvin and others rejected anything remotely Catholic, most Protestant Churches might observe those one or two of the 7 sacraments and only as a

Only a symbolic gesture, and not the 7 sacrament that Jesus, the Apostles the early Church fathers and the Church hierarchy taught. etc.


So is this is why I call Protestants a schismatic apostate heresy ? It's all factual, I'm not embellishing these factual statements.

The Catholic Church from the beginning of "The Church" e.g. The Catholic-Universal Church" has been fighting heresies, schismatic division since the beginning foundations of the Catholic Church


And that's why Protestants revised the Catholic bible from 73 books, minus several chapter and verses, to the present day King James version Bible, of 66 books minus the several chapters and verses from other books.

I guess the cliché analogy, "The Mean's Justify the End's," . . . wouldn't you agree . . . ?

Consider also that new Greek biblical texts, was not from the old Greek Septuagint bible Greek text type, e.g. The Old Testament that was written in and completed around BC 250.


Hmmmmm now why would those rascally protest's do that ?


Justification for Protestantism ? Hmmmmm kinda undermine's Christian, to justify their own type of religious Protestant existence.


So, Remove 7 books out of the Bible, and chapters and verses also out several books, to help identify and explain your new man-Made Protestant theology and Church.

And then to top it off, reject and modify the Bible to the new Protestant for of teaching the bible. multiply that by 30,000 plus, Churches, you have total Protestant chaos and Protestant dis-unity.

That's not what Jesus Christ taught and instructed his Apostles and early Church Patristic Fathers and Church hierarchy. etc.

I'd say that is what is a Protestant heresy in religion.

By the way, Love how you are cofounding the Protestant heretics . . . your driving them nuts . . .


When you bump into Protestant knuckle-heads, you finally met, the cause of Protestant strife here on the OPP Religious forum.


And that's why Protestants are heretics . . .

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Now his long-winded but futile tit for tat of a juvenile, articles " don't call Protestants Christians".
Instead of answering scriptures.
A rational mind doesn't continue posting Catholic articles to prove itself. A rational mind refers to God's word.

John 6:44
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

Many are called but few are chosen.

We know when we are seeking the truth of God sincerely in our hearts, God speaks to our heart to what is true. You freeded from the Catholic church and me from the Mormon church, we wanted the truth in our heart, we both were sincere.
I think there has to be a condition of the heart to see the truth revealed to us by the Holy Spirit.
When Jesus said "I stand at the door and knock" we know not everyone opens the door.
What stops them from opening the door? I believe there are things going on in the hearts that go deeper than digging their heels into Catholic doctrine, refusing the truth of God's word. Pride, lust, making themselves God's above others, hardened hearts, reprobate minds, haughty, ect, ect.
To continue on in the face of dozens of hard facts and biblical warnings, Biblical truths defending with shut ears, closed eyes to the prompting of the spirit that awakens souls seeking truth. There is a point that God gives followers in cults over to the seducing spirits, doctrine of demons in full oppression. The irrational return replies, vitriol hate and anger, even rage expressed in name calling, insults, wishing souls to hell, even death threats that would be willing to commit if possible are strong indicators of demonic strongholds but we can only leave it up to God that sees the hearts condition beyond our ability, to God that judges and places judgement. We can only be guided by God's word, continue defending the word of God, and giving the message of good news, the gospel of salvation according to the word of God.

God Bless

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jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

There you go again DOC10
Proving your dishonest, a flat out liar.

Your reposting what was proven false over a dozen times.

You are showing your evil works, lead by demons in the satanic counterfeit Roman Catholic church.

You have gone from arguing religion to doing work for demons.

Rose42

I didn't know you were a Mormon. Wow. I've read some of their apologetics too. Mormonism doesn't have as much Christianity sprinkled in. I know a Mormon who only started going to the church because his friend was Mormon and the family took him to their services. He never left. A false church is a false church but Mormonism is really out there.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Like many cults it has mastered brainwashing its members.
Mormons also have sexual rituals (satanic) at the alter. You would be surprised how much in common Satan weaves into his counterfeit religions.

Rose42

I had no idea about that. But no one can go in their temples either can they?. A Mormon relative got married but since his parents weren't Mormons they couldn't go into the temple for the ceremony.

TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!

The same articles! Over and over and over !

If he wasn’t so lazy, he would find us some new ones !

Rose42

He did tell me "May you gain entrance into hell" several times but he won't explain that remark. It does say a lot about how hard he's fighting being convicted.