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Nov 29, 2017 12:59:50   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
SGM B wrote:
Thank you Ma'am, your compliment is much appreciated.
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Hope you are having a great day!
SGM B out.


Still in the hospital and getting veryyyy frustrated but this too shall pass..

My day is spent reading to distract from this place!!
Nice seeing you tho..

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Nov 29, 2017 13:02:03   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
kemmer wrote:
It'll be interesting and informative if Alabama disgraces itself and votes for Roy Moore.


How you wish ~~~~

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Nov 29, 2017 13:35:53   #
Lonewolf
 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/14/roy-moore-alabama-law-rape-victims-judge


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/17/us/roy-moore-judicial-record.html





lindajoy wrote:
You base this comment of course on his years in office and record of succeeding, right??

Appalling record?? Perhaps you will share??

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Nov 29, 2017 13:52:20   #
grey gringo Loc: South Texas
 
desparado wrote:
The most important thing no one is talking about is Moore is unfit to serve.
And we don't need a court to determine this his appalling record is more than enough to prove it.


By what standard is Roy Moore "unfit to serve" certainly no "moral" standard would prohibit him from serving...disagreement with his positions on numerous issues does not disqualify him....your prejudice against his standards is certainly not a reason to disqualify him....

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Nov 29, 2017 14:38:43   #
MtnMamma
 
Loki wrote:
I admire your adherence to the principles of jurisprudence. While you may think him guilty. Consider this:
Roy Moore has had a very controversial career over four decades. Not a whisper or peep of sexual misconduct until a month or so before an election he was winning when he wasn't supposed to do so. The DC Establishment poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into his opponent's campaign, trying to maintain the status quo of RINO dirtbags. They failed. Why didn't these accusations come out in the primary? Because Moore wasn't supposed to win the primary. When Moore was embroiled in all his legal problems about the Ten Commandments and gay marriage, not a word. NOT ONE WORD for FORTY YEARS.
One of his accusers has falsely accused at least three other men, all clergy from three different churches of the same thing. It also seems that she was of legal age when this alleged misconduct supposedly occurred, not jailbait.
Another of his accusers works for his opponent.
Another of his accusers is in possession of the only piece of what might be considered physical evidence and refuses to turn it over to forensics experts to determine it's authenticity.
No offense, but if you gave me enough money and a little time, as I have said before, I could find women or men willing to accuse anyone of anything. ESPECIALLY if it was timed so close to the event it was meant to influence that there was no time to determine the truth or mendacity of the accusations.
I admire your adherence to the principles of juris... (show quote)


The timing, though highly suspect, may not have to do with elections but the big breaking news about Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey. Under that cover or by impetus, Moore's accusers could have felt it safe or finally worth the risk to come forward. Pure conjecture but not out the realm of possibility.

Why victims of sexual assault, especially when victimized by celebrities, wait to report, if they choose to report at all?
Sexual assault can cause intense feelings of humiliation. Denial, shame and self-doubt are all typical psychological byproducts of being abused by someone you trusted. Victims often struggle with fears that other people will judge, blame and disbelieve them, and fear how gossip about what has been done to them can further inflict feelings of isolation, shame and humiliation. When the perpetrator is part of the victim’s social circle, or someone of upstanding reputation such as a celebrity, they also fear having others side with the abuser.

Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience. Humiliation, shame and fear equal silence. When victims break that silence, they know they’ll face a new set of challenges, but it’s never too late to speak out.

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Nov 29, 2017 14:52:35   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
MtnMamma wrote:
The timing, though highly suspect, may not have to do with elections but the big breaking news about Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey. Under that cover or by impetus, Moore's accusers could have felt it safe or finally worth the risk to come forward. Pure conjecture but not out the realm of possibility.

Why victims of sexual assault, especially when victimized by celebrities, wait to report, if they choose to report at all?
Sexual assault can cause intense feelings of humiliation. Denial, shame and self-doubt are all typical psychological byproducts of being abused by someone you trusted. Victims often struggle with fears that other people will judge, blame and disbelieve them, and fear how gossip about what has been done to them can further inflict feelings of isolation, shame and humiliation. When the perpetrator is part of the victim’s social circle, or someone of upstanding reputation such as a celebrity, they also fear having others side with the abuser.

Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience. Humiliation, shame and fear equal silence. When victims break that silence, they know they’ll face a new set of challenges, but it’s never too late to speak out.
The timing, though highly suspect, may not have to... (show quote)


Respectfully ma'am, but I call bull spit on the notion that women have been too scared to come forth with allegations for 40 years??? That defies all logic, especially if the perp has been in the publics eyes all those years and no allegation is newer than 40 years, he'll 10 years might be more believable, but very little more.
I suspect your mind is made up and there is no way to change it, but as far as I'm concerned it's time for these "put upon" women to either put up or shut up.
Judge Roy Moore has my vote and Gloria Alred can crawl back into her hole and take her bought and paid for "victim" with her. If she is all she claims to be, why not let a forensic expert examine the year book???
Enjoy your day!
SGM B out.

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Nov 29, 2017 16:58:43   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
desparado wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/14/roy-moore-alabama-law-rape-victims-judge


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/17/us/roy-moore-judicial-record.html


Interpretation and application of the law is very broad in culminating the facts and very specific in rendering the scores upon punishments placed before each state in determining guilt and punishment..

You must admit a man getting 35 years for not paying for a breakfast begs the question of how it is even possible there is such inequity in our judicial processs..

You should be glad not every Judge is going to rubber stamp the punishment or denial of probable material evidence that weighs in during a trial...

His reasoning as a Constitutionalist shows..Yet he is chastised by those whom really do not even understand all the variables in place and why.. Sad , very sad..

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Nov 29, 2017 17:59:52   #
Lonewolf
 
i see it as just one pedophile protecting another when 8 say yes and one says no you that guy is wrong




lindajoy wrote:
Interpretation and application of the law is very broad in culminating the facts and very specific in rendering the scores upon punishments placed before each state in determining guilt and punishment..

You must admit a man getting 35 years for not paying for a breakfast begs the question of how it is even possible there is such inequity in our judicial processs..

You should be glad not every Judge is going to rubber stamp the punishment or denial of probable material evidence that weighs in during a trial...

His reasoning as a Constitutionalist shows..Yet he is chastised by those whom really do not even understand all the variables in place and why.. Sad , very sad..
Interpretation and application of the law is very ... (show quote)

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Nov 29, 2017 20:02:57   #
Big Bass
 
desparado wrote:
i see it as just one pedophile protecting another when 8 say yes and one says no you that guy is wrong

Supply proof!

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Nov 29, 2017 20:05:20   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Well lib boys is Billy guilty or is he innocent ?

So far these as it seems are only accusations !

What say ye !



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Nov 30, 2017 00:35:30   #
EconomistDon
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
In the Roy Moore affair, there will be no court trial. The statute of limitation has long run out on any statutory rape case. If he attempted statutory rape, he got away with it. The question then becomes, is it an issue in Alabama elections, if a candidate got away with attempted statutory rape?


I hope that history does not show that a good judge lost an election due to hateful lies paid for by a Democrat Party desperate to win a seat in the Senate. Democrats could win the Senate seat, but they could lose the war when the truth about their lies are exposed.

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Nov 30, 2017 09:00:25   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
desparado wrote:
i see it as just one pedophile protecting another when 8 say yes and one says no you that guy is wrong


8 May have claimed and how many have since fallen or been exposed for exactly what they are not~ “ honest” and we’ll leave out of sound mind”..

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Nov 30, 2017 09:12:05   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
lindajoy wrote:
Still in the hospital and getting veryyyy frustrated but this too shall pass..

My day is spent reading to distract from this place!!
Nice seeing you tho..


Gosh, sorry to hear that! Hope you start feeling better real soon.
SGM B

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Nov 30, 2017 09:20:00   #
Lonewolf
 
If ever bit of this is true what does it have To to with Roy Moore not one thing
your saying Clinton was a pervert so you can have your own pervert ,well were known by the company we keep.



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Nov 30, 2017 09:28:38   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
desparado wrote:
If ever bit of this is true what does it have To to with Roy Moore not one thing
your saying Clinton was a pervert so you can have your own pervert ,well were known by the company we keep.


It has everything to do with Moore and Clinton as of now all are accusations you say Moore is guilty without proof so far Clinton's are accusations my question is in your view is Clinton guilty as Moore ?

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