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Sep 16, 2017 18:43:17   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
To Christians of the time it was never a holy war, it was survival and Christians never believed it was their land, rather Jewish land, which it was.


Seems like now, it's about OUR survival.....in our own country at that!

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Sep 16, 2017 18:46:11   #
bahmer
 
kankune wrote:
Seems like now, it's about OUR survival.....in our own country at that!


It will be a fight and a major one against the liberals who look at the Muslims as their next voting block and the way to win more elections.

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Sep 16, 2017 18:54:21   #
Mikeyavelli
 
bahmer wrote:
It will be a fight and a major one against the liberals who look at the Muslims as their next voting block and the way to win more elections.


The lefties plan to use Sharia law to police the world when they achieve their borderless one government world. Islam will be the official religion.

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Sep 16, 2017 18:57:26   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
The lefties plan to use Sharia law to police the world when they achieve their borderless one government world. Islam will be the official religion.


Too bad there isn't a plan for us all to become one to bring the elites down.....

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Sep 16, 2017 19:00:50   #
bahmer
 
kankune wrote:
Too bad there isn't a plan for us all to become one to bring the elites down.....


I believe that the convention of states is supposed to do that.

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Sep 16, 2017 19:11:47   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
this is their country, muslims have been here since the founding of the nation


I found this site, regarding Muslims in the U.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States

The following is just a small excerpt from the Wikipedia link:

American Revolution and thereafter

Records from the American Revolutionary War indicate that at least a few likely Muslims fought on the American side. Among the recorded names of American soldiers are "Yusuf ben Ali" (a member of the Turks of South Carolina community), "Bampett Muhamed" and possibly Peter Salem.

Letter of George Washington to Mohammed ben Abdallah in appreciation of the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, signed in 1787.

The first country to recognize the United States as an independent nation was the Sultanate of Morocco, under its ruler Mohammed ben Abdallah, in the year 1777. He maintained several correspondences with President George Washington.

While an estimated 10 to 30 percent of the slaves brought to colonial America from Africa arrived as Muslims, Islam was stringently suppressed on plantations. Prior to the late 19th century, most documented non-enslaved Muslims in North America were merchants, travelers, and sailors.

On December 9, 1805, President Thomas Jefferson hosted an Iftar dinner at the White House for his guest Sidi Soliman Mellimelli, an envoy from Tunis.

Bilali (Ben Ali) Muhammad was a Fula Muslim from Timbo, Futa-Jallon, in present-day Guinea-Conakry, who arrived at Sapelo Island during 1803. While enslaved, he became the religious leader and Imam for a slave community numbering approximately eighty Muslim men residing on his plantation. During the War of 1812, Muhammad and the eighty Muslim men under his leadership protected their master's Sapelo Island property from a British attack. He is known to have fasted during the month of Ramadan, worn a fez and kaftan, and observed the Muslim feasts, in addition to consistently performing the five obligatory prayers. In 1829, Bilali authored a thirteen-page Arabic Risala on Islamic beliefs and the rules for ablution, morning prayer, and the calls to prayer. Known as the Bilali Document, it is currently housed at the University of Georgia in Athens.

Between 1785 and 1815, over a hundred American sailors were held for ransom in Algiers. Several wrote captivity narratives of their experiences that gave most Americans their first view of the Arab World and Muslim ways, and newspapers often commented on them. The views were generally negative. Royall Tyler wrote The Algerine Captive (1797), an early American novel depicting the life of an American doctor employed in the slave trade who himself is captured and enslaved by Barbary pirates. Finally Presidents Jefferson and Madison sent the American navy to confront the pirates, and ended the threat in 1815 during the First Barbary War. During negotiation of the treaty of peace which ended hostilities, American envoys made clear that the United States had no animosity towards any Muslim country.

Nineteenth century

On the morning of April 4, 1865, near the end of the American Civil War, Union troops commanded by Col. Thomas M. Johnston set ablaze the University of Alabama; a copy of the Quran known as The Koran: Commonly Called The Alcoran Of Mohammed was saved by one of the University's staff.

Two hundred and ninety-two Muslims are known to have fought during the Civil War, including Private Mohammad Khan, who was born in Persia, raised in Afghanistan, and emigrated to the United States. The highest-ranking Muslim officer in the Union Army was Captain Moses Osman. Nicholas Said, formerly enslaved to an Arab master, came to the United States in 1860 and found a teaching job in Detroit. In 1863, Said enlisted in the 55th Massachusetts Colored Regiment in the United States Army and rose to the rank of sergeant. He was later granted a transfer to a military hospital, where he gained some knowledge of medicine. His Army records state that he died in Brownsville, Tennessee, in 1882. Another Muslim soldier from the Civil War was Max Hassan, an African who worked for the military as a porter.

Gertrudis Serna & Hadji Ali (Hi Jolly).

A Muslim named Hajj Ali (commonly spelled as "Hi Jolly") was hired by the United States Cavalry in 1856 to tend camels in Arizona and California. He would later become a prospector in Arizona. Hajj Ali died in 1903.

During the American Civil war, the "scorched earth" policy of the North destroyed churches, farms, schools, libraries, colleges, and a great deal of other property. The libraries at the University of Alabama managed to save one book from the debris of their library buildings. On the morning of April 4, 1865, when Federal troops reached the campus with an order to destroy the university, Andre Deloffre, a modern language professor and custodian of the library, appealed to the commanding officer to spare one of the finest libraries in the South. The officer, being sympathetic, sent a courier to Gen. Croxton at his headquarters in Tuscaloosa asking permission to save the Rotunda, but the general refused to allow this. The officer reportedly said, "I will save one volume as a memento of this occasion." The volume selected was a rare copy of the Qur'an.

Alexander Russell Webb is considered by historians to be the earliest prominent Anglo-American convert to Islam in 1888. In 1893, he was the sole representative of Islam at the first Parliament of the World's Religions. The Russian-born Muslim scholar and writer Achmed Abdullah (1881–1945) was another prominent early American Muslim.

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Sep 16, 2017 19:26:05   #
emarine
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
That's what they count on, nobody will kick them in the ass. Nobody would dare criticize a muslim today, and they get away with murder. Murder.




I think that Muslims here in America are under the microscope & there are more than enough conscientious Americans willing to give them the boot if & when they screw up... my whole point is to give them a fair chance as individuals, not just the fact they're Muslims... That's pretty much the constitutional way... If we the people wish to change this we have the provisions to do so...

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Sep 16, 2017 19:46:09   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
It ain't no holy war now either. The obamaleft wants us to smile while the Muslims slit our throats. Make them comfortable in your own home.



The Obama Era and the snowflakes are responsible for making it a crime to speak the truth about Islam. Speak the truth about Islam and your a hater, Islamophobia. Same with speaking about God publicly, and many other freedoms. Anything that disagrees with liberals, they try to silence with their evil pc

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Sep 16, 2017 20:34:52   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
slatten49 wrote:
I found this site, regarding Muslims in the U.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States

The following is just a small excerpt from the Wikipedia link:

American Revolution and thereafter

Records from the American Revolutionary War indicate that at least a few likely Muslims fought on the American side. Among the recorded names of American soldiers are "Yusuf ben Ali" (a member of the Turks of South Carolina community), "Bampett Muhamed" and possibly Peter Salem.

Letter of George Washington to Mohammed ben Abdallah in appreciation of the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, signed in 1787.

The first country to recognize the United States as an independent nation was the Sultanate of Morocco, under its ruler Mohammed ben Abdallah, in the year 1777. He maintained several correspondences with President George Washington.

While an estimated 10 to 30 percent of the slaves brought to colonial America from Africa arrived as Muslims, Islam was stringently suppressed on plantations. Prior to the late 19th century, most documented non-enslaved Muslims in North America were merchants, travelers, and sailors.

On December 9, 1805, President Thomas Jefferson hosted an Iftar dinner at the White House for his guest Sidi Soliman Mellimelli, an envoy from Tunis.

Bilali (Ben Ali) Muhammad was a Fula Muslim from Timbo, Futa-Jallon, in present-day Guinea-Conakry, who arrived at Sapelo Island during 1803. While enslaved, he became the religious leader and Imam for a slave community numbering approximately eighty Muslim men residing on his plantation. During the War of 1812, Muhammad and the eighty Muslim men under his leadership protected their master's Sapelo Island property from a British attack. He is known to have fasted during the month of Ramadan, worn a fez and kaftan, and observed the Muslim feasts, in addition to consistently performing the five obligatory prayers. In 1829, Bilali authored a thirteen-page Arabic Risala on Islamic beliefs and the rules for ablution, morning prayer, and the calls to prayer. Known as the Bilali Document, it is currently housed at the University of Georgia in Athens.

Between 1785 and 1815, over a hundred American sailors were held for ransom in Algiers. Several wrote captivity narratives of their experiences that gave most Americans their first view of the Arab World and Muslim ways, and newspapers often commented on them. The views were generally negative. Royall Tyler wrote The Algerine Captive (1797), an early American novel depicting the life of an American doctor employed in the slave trade who himself is captured and enslaved by Barbary pirates. Finally Presidents Jefferson and Madison sent the American navy to confront the pirates, and ended the threat in 1815 during the First Barbary War. During negotiation of the treaty of peace which ended hostilities, American envoys made clear that the United States had no animosity towards any Muslim country.

Nineteenth century

On the morning of April 4, 1865, near the end of the American Civil War, Union troops commanded by Col. Thomas M. Johnston set ablaze the University of Alabama; a copy of the Quran known as The Koran: Commonly Called The Alcoran Of Mohammed was saved by one of the University's staff.

Two hundred and ninety-two Muslims are known to have fought during the Civil War, including Private Mohammad Khan, who was born in Persia, raised in Afghanistan, and emigrated to the United States. The highest-ranking Muslim officer in the Union Army was Captain Moses Osman. Nicholas Said, formerly enslaved to an Arab master, came to the United States in 1860 and found a teaching job in Detroit. In 1863, Said enlisted in the 55th Massachusetts Colored Regiment in the United States Army and rose to the rank of sergeant. He was later granted a transfer to a military hospital, where he gained some knowledge of medicine. His Army records state that he died in Brownsville, Tennessee, in 1882. Another Muslim soldier from the Civil War was Max Hassan, an African who worked for the military as a porter.

Gertrudis Serna & Hadji Ali (Hi Jolly).

A Muslim named Hajj Ali (commonly spelled as "Hi Jolly") was hired by the United States Cavalry in 1856 to tend camels in Arizona and California. He would later become a prospector in Arizona. Hajj Ali died in 1903.

During the American Civil war, the "scorched earth" policy of the North destroyed churches, farms, schools, libraries, colleges, and a great deal of other property. The libraries at the University of Alabama managed to save one book from the debris of their library buildings. On the morning of April 4, 1865, when Federal troops reached the campus with an order to destroy the university, Andre Deloffre, a modern language professor and custodian of the library, appealed to the commanding officer to spare one of the finest libraries in the South. The officer, being sympathetic, sent a courier to Gen. Croxton at his headquarters in Tuscaloosa asking permission to save the Rotunda, but the general refused to allow this. The officer reportedly said, "I will save one volume as a memento of this occasion." The volume selected was a rare copy of the Qur'an.

Alexander Russell Webb is considered by historians to be the earliest prominent Anglo-American convert to Islam in 1888. In 1893, he was the sole representative of Islam at the first Parliament of the World's Religions. The Russian-born Muslim scholar and writer Achmed Abdullah (1881–1945) was another prominent early American Muslim.
I found this site, regarding Muslims in the U.S. ... (show quote)


Mostly a load about the revolution. NO EVIDENCE to support the nonsense. https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/15521/is-there-evidence-muslim-soldiers-fought-in-the-continental-army

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Sep 16, 2017 21:13:05   #
Mikeyavelli
 
peter11937 wrote:

Muslims are good for the planet. Turn them over in the fields and watch your crops grow.

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Sep 16, 2017 21:55:45   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
The Obama Era and the snowflakes are responsible for making it a crime to speak the truth about Islam. Speak the truth about Islam and your a hater, Islamophobia. Same with speaking about God publicly, and many other freedoms. Anything that disagrees with liberals, they try to silence with their evil pc


And there in point lies our problem..its the forcing that they put upon us. People do not liked to be forced.to do things. I certainly don't anyway. In forcing someone it takes away the joy and.pleasure of letting them make their own decisions. This in turn makes them CRANKY!. Then you get to the point where the BS has been shoved down your throat so much you just get pissed and you don't like anyone. Just sayin

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Sep 16, 2017 21:57:22   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
bahmer wrote:
I believe that the convention of states is supposed to do that.


Ummmm....well....they need to get to it then. : )

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Sep 16, 2017 23:34:40   #
Ricktloml
 
bggamers wrote:
Yes in Wichita my brother goes to the vets for medical care and has a muslim female Dr. who stands in a corner with her hands under her arm and tells him he's fine quit drinking go home. He's 70 they wont do test that a vet Dr here in Ga wrote she threw them in trash said he did'nt need any of that. So convinced him to go to private Dr. she did test and gee kevin they found out all the problems my brother has are from agent orange he had blood work done last week they called him said every thing looked good. His out side Dr. called told him to come in ASAP apparently whats good to his Dr in VA is leukemia. So please do'nt tell me what great a contribution their making cause I'm just not feeling it sorry
Yes in Wichita my brother goes to the vets for med... (show quote)


So sorry your brother had to endure that lack of care. I hope he is doing well. What on earth is a female Muslim Dr, who won't examine her patients doing at ANY vet center

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Sep 16, 2017 23:54:30   #
Ricktloml
 
emarine wrote:
My example or analogy of little Kim & all Asians being juvenile @ best?... I thought it was very straight forward in context but to each his own jack... Islam has many followers... the Koran has different meaning to different followers same as other religion's... it is those who fear who only look at the bad... the simple truth is we don't know what others think until they act... this is why small groups of extremists ruin it for the many... realistically we can only trust but verify or risk becoming what we fear...
My example or analogy of little Kim & all Asia... (show quote)


All these patriotic Muslims have yet to vocally and publicly condemn jihad, both violent AND civilization jihad. And it doesn't take much to radicalize, or silence ANY criticism of radical Islam with these life-long American Muslims

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Sep 16, 2017 23:56:56   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Ricktloml wrote:
All these patriotic Muslims have yet to vocally and publicly condemn jihad, both violent AND civilization jihad. And it doesn't take much to radicalize these life-long American Muslims


Then they are not truly American, are they?

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