Randy131 Loc: Florida

Good luck Huck, and may GOD bless you and yours.

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

Jason Kessler is a paid minion of George Soros to disrupt normal society and engage in promoting as much violence and mayhem as possible.
Also a staunch Obama and Hillary supporter.

This is AntiFa's flag:

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Bingo!!! You got it' bd!!!!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Jason Kessler, Charlottesville rally organizer, says he's in hiding

By Doug McKelway,
Published August 17, 2017
Fox News

Did 'good people' attend Charlottesville rally?

Jason Kessler, who organized the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Va., told Fox News late Thursday he's in hiding after getting a string of death threats.

Last Saturday, a car rammed into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville, killing one woman and injuring some 19 other people. The next day, protesters chased Kessler from a press conference he was trying to hold.

The nationalist blogger maintains his group is not a collection of white supremacists, but rather a “civil rights group.” He said he graduated from the University of Virginia, voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and once attended an Occupy Wall Street rally in Charlottesville. Kessler, who organized the rally in Charlottesville on Saturday that sparked violent clashes between white supremacist groups and counter-protesters tried to hold a news conference, but a crowd booed him and forced him away from the lectern.

His grievances are rooted in what he calls the identity politics of today. “Some are the discriminatory policies of affirmative action, college admissions, history books being rewritten, blaming American whites for slavery,” when it was a worldwide institution.

“Every culture had slavery,” he said.

He also blamed the “existential crisis of immigration, mass immigration from third world countries.”

Kessler said he “never met” James Alex Fields Jr., the suspected driver in the deadly crash. As for the death of the woman, Heather Heyer, Kessler said: “no comment.”

In preparation for last Saturday’s rally, he met repeatedly with Charlottesville police and was assigned a police liaison. He says she went over the city’s safety plan with him, let him see it, but would not let him photograph it. He said that the captain “let slip” that in preparation for the rally, the city and police “did not use government servers because they did not want to get FOIA’d” — referring to the Freedom of Information Act.

He said he has received no calls, no visits from police or federal investigators since the event. “I’ve done nothing wrong,” Kessler said.

Kessler said the organization’s funding came from “donations to our PayPal account, before it was shut down.” Now, “we fund ourselves, because most of us have or used to have jobs, before this.”

He said that police had given the white nationalists a specific entry way to the park. But that as they arrived at the park at 8:30 a.m. on Saturday, the road to that entrance was blocked by police. The caravan of shuttle busses that the nationalists had rented had to detour to the opposite side of the park, where most of the Antifa demonstrators were positioned.

That was the point at which tensions rose meteorically, he said. They had to pass through Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and other opponents at close range.

The body armor, clubs and helmets his people wore during the rally were strictly defensive, “for our own safety,” he said.
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Doug McKelway joined Fox News Channel (FNC) in November 2010 and serves as a Washington-based correspondent.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

As usual, BB, you go straight to the crux of the matter.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Here's what is known about the 'pro-white' organizer of 'Unite the Right,' who was chased out of his own press conference

Natasha Bertrand, Business Insider

Aug. 14, 2017

The organizer of last weekend's deadly "Unite The Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia was chased out of his own press conference on Sunday by counter protesters yelling "shame on you!"

Jason Kessler had walked up to the microphone to complain about violations of his First Amendment rights. But he was quickly drowned out by chants of "murderer" — a reference to the death of Heather Heyer, a 32-year-old counter protester who was run over on Saturday by a man who appeared to espouse neo-Nazi views.

A former University of Virginia student, Kessler founded a far-right nonprofit called Unity & Security for America earlier this year to "protect the West" from "rampant immigration."

Kessler told a local radio station last week that the rally was meant as a show of "support" for Charlotteville's monument to the Confederate general Robert E. Lee, which he said local politicians were trying to remove as part of "a push to take down all of these white historical figures."

"We're trying to do a pro-white demonstration," Kessler said. "We're trying to show that folks can stand up for white people. The political correctness has gotten way out of control, and the only way to fight back against it has been to stand up for our own interests."

Kessler, who has written for right-wing publications like The Daily Caller and the anti-immigration outlet VDARE, said that he is "pro-white" and wants to "stand up" for his people against "ethnic cleansing" by "liberal social policies." But he denied that he is a white supremacist.

Kessler, a Charlottesville resident, began his crusade to salvage the Robert E. Lee monument in late March when Charlottesville Vice Mayor Wes Bellamy first called for the statue to be removed. Kessler's campaign to unseat Bellamy, who is black, garnered national media attention — especially after Kessler unearthed vulgar and sexist tweets written by Bellamy between 2009-2012.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups operating in the US, noted that Kessler's organization Unity & Security for America launched its website around the same time that he was petitioning for Bellamy's removal.

"Unity & Security for America takes an America First approach to defending Western Civilization including its history, culture, principles and peoples," the website's "Protect the West" section reads.

"We believe that rampant immigration is bursting our civilization at its seams. Unnecessary foreign interventions and attacks on Western history and heritage are detrimental to the survival of the tradition which brought us reason, logic, medicine, human rights and took us into outer space."

The website also features photos of Kessler with Republican Rep. Tom Garrett, whose district includes Charlotteville. Garrett denounced Kessler in an interview with Fox on Sunday, calling him a "racist ideologue" and expressing regret for meeting with him in March.

"I had no idea who he was in March," Garrett said, adding that he has been condemning Kessler's actions since May.

Kessler has also recorded himself speaking about "the need to preserve history" from "Marxist revisionism" — a far-right conspiracy theory which says that Jews escaped Nazi Germany in order to "erode Western values."

Pro-Trump, far-right commentators are now trying to distance themselves from Kessler in the wake of the deadly Charlottesville riots, claiming that he was paid by the liberal philanthropist George Soros "to invite several neo-Nazi and KKK groups to smear everyone attending."

"Just did some digging and I found out that this little f--k was a leftist operative until when? You guessed it — November 2016," wrote a commenter on the pro-Trump reddit group /r/The_Donald.

"'Unite the Right' is a Soros-funded honeypot psyop that employs the 'Pied Piper' strategy to damage the Republican brand by insinuating that Antifa goons disguised as Nazis represent the views of the entire Right Wing in America," wrote another commenter.

"I said from day one this was a media created false flag," another replied. "I hope there is a real investigation in to this s--t so we can see the true criminals exposed."

Conspiracy theories involving Soros are prolific among far-right activists, who have accused the 87-year-old of playing a role in everything from the Charlottesville violence to the European refugee crisis.

Kessler did not respond to requests for comment. But he joined a growing chorus of white nationalists, including Tim Gionet, better known as "Baked Alaska,"and Richard Spencer, who blamed the outbreak of violence on police.

"Police refused to separate" and "even pushed the feuding groups together," Kessler tweeted on Sunday night.

There is no evidence that the police "pushed" anyone together. But the police department's late response to breaking up the violence has been roundly criticized on both sides.

Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe told The New York Times that law enforcement was essentially outgunned by far-right militias, who showed up at the protests "with better equipment than our state police had."

PeterS

So I'm assuming that if we put up a statue to Hitler or his best general Erwin Rommel they should be allowed to stand because they are part of history?

What I don't understand is how it is that people who tried to divide our country and form a country of their own should be looked upon with such hero worship? There is no other explanation then they are traitors to our country so perhaps you would like to explain why traitors should have their statues placed in our public spaces and they are looked upon as hero's by our children and those with the intellect of children? Please explain, I really would like to know...

Randy131 Loc: Florida

One group came for a peaceful rally, wearing body armor for protection of threatened attacks by the other goup, who came to confront the rally group, wearing black bandanas across their faces as masks to hide their identities, while also bringing weapons on their person to their confrontations. I wonder who planned the physical violence and riot, and came prepared to be the agressor? Could it be the same groups that did the exact same things on the Berkley campus in California to stop a convention of conservative speakers, and who just the other day did the exact same things at a court house in Chicago, but this time attacking the police while being masked with bandanas and carrying weapons, just like in Berkley and Charlottesville It seems your prejudices, bias, and bigotry just won't allow you to accept the truth, but their actions stay the same and keep mounting up. Now they're attempting to bomb the historical statues and and monuments in Texas, because the Texans refuse to tear down and destroy their historical statues and monuments, as one was arrested in the attempt at another of their protests, that didn't turn into a riot because of the huge police presents of texas law enforcement who have the reputation for shooting people that attack them with weapons.

As for the 'Southern Poverty Law Center' (SPLC), everyone who is well informed knows that they are just another liberal shill organization of more bias and bigotry, that labels all conservative groups that speak out against the wrongs and ills of liberalism and progressiveness as "hate groups", like the 'American Family Association' (AFA - a Christian organization that speaks up against violence, which is mostly perpetrated by the left organizations such as AntiFa and BLM who call for the murder of police officers and white people) and the 'Jewish Defamation League' (JDL - a group that points out violent antisemetism and calls for peace and respect among all peoples).

But I see you're still pushing your agenda against all those 'YOU' want to label as haters, and the ones that the liberal shill organization SPLC does too. You must be pretty damn smart and very important to appoint yourself as the designated hate spotter and labeler, filled with your own hubris and self-ego, especially when it comes to the AFA and the JDL, but ignore all the hate groups that are Democratic policy and agenda advocates, like the AntiFa and BLM, who have been gracefully accepted and endeared by the Democratic Party, despite their call for the murder of police officers and white people, and have carried out many of those calls themselves.

You earn the title of 'HYPOCRITE', so wear it well, for many can now see what you really are, defending the hate groups that agree with your political philosophies, while attacking the hate groups who don't. But the evidence of who the real hate groups are is adding up, and most all informed people can see it.

Randy131 Loc: Florida

One group came for a peaceful rally, wearing body armor for protection from threatened attacks by the other goup, who came to confront the rally group, wearing black bandanas across their faces as masks to hide their identities, while also bringing weapons on their person to their confrontation. I wonder who planned the physical violence and riot, and came prepared to be the agressor? Could it be the same groups that did the exact same things on the Berkley campus in California, to stop a convention of conservative speakers, and who just the other day did the exact same things at a court house in Chicago, but this time attacking the police while being masked with bandanas and carrying weapons, just like they were in Berkley and Charlottesville.

It seems your prejudice, bias, and bigotry just won't allow you to accept the truth, but their actions (modus operandi) stay the same and keep mounting up. Now they're attempting to bomb the historical statues and and monuments in Texas, because the Texans refuse to tear down and destroy their historical statues and monuments, as one AntiFa member was arrested in the bombing attempt at another of their protests, that didn't turn into a riot because of the huge police presence of Texas law enforcement, who have the reputation and record for shooting people that attack them with weapons.

As for the 'Southern Poverty Law Center' (SPLC), everyone who is well informed knows that they are just another liberal shill organization of more bias and bigotry (a source I expected you to use), that labels all conservative groups that speak out against the wrongs and ills of liberalism and progressiveness as "hate groups", like the 'American Family Association' (AFA - a Christian organization that speaks up against all violence, which is mostly perpetrated by the left organizations such as AntiFa and BLM, who call for the murder of police officers and white people) and the 'Jewish Defamation League' (JDL - a group that points out violent anti-semetism and calls for peace and respect among all peoples).

But I see you're still pushing your agenda against all those "YOU" want to label as haters, and the ones that the liberal shill organization SPLC does too. You must be pretty damn smart and very important to appoint yourself as the designated hate group spotter and labeler, filled with your own hubris and self-ego, especially when it comes to the AFA and the JDL, but ignore all the hate groups that are Democratic policy and agenda advocates, like the AntiFa and BLM, who have been gracefully accepted and endeared by the Democratic Party, despite their call for the murder of police officers and white people, and have carried out many of those calls themselves.

You earn your title of 'HYPOCRITE', so wear it well, for many can now see what you really are, defending the hate groups that agree with your political philosophies, while attacking the hate groups who don't. But the evidence of who the real hate groups are is adding up, and most all informed people can see it.

Huck Loc: The Midwest

PeterS – Those states that chose to secede from the union were American citizens thinking they were exercising their Constitutional rights to do so. How can you possibly lump them in with international enemies of the state such as our enemies of WWII. These are two completely different issues. Surely you could have used a better analogy than that. I fear what we have here is another shallow thinker. Huck

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

O for crying out loud Peter your assumptions are running amuck neither of these two are a part of our American history !

Talk about dividing the country why can't you see that is exactly what the Obama Administration did for 8 yrs but you guys are totally blind .

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Since you saw fit to repeat your rebuttal, I shall submit the same response I had earlier in this thread directed to you. But first, I will point out that the clear purpose of my last two posts was to show that Jason Kessler was the driving force behind the 'Unite The Right' group that gathered in Charlottesville. His history is definitely shady. You clearly deflected away from the intent of my post and continue to deny that both sides were there legally by permit, even if not legitimately in intent. Take from that what you will. I am no hypocrite, but you surely are a denier.

Otherwise....

Randy, is there any limit to the assumptions/presumptions that you foster without basis? Your perception of me, for instance, is so far off base that it boggles my mind. The only protestors I would defend in the Charlottesville riots were the non-violent ones from either/both sides. The basic cut 'n paste I posted was to point out your falling short of the truth in your earlier comments that only one side of the protestors had a permit. If you had read and comprehended all of the article, you would know that is not true. You are such a frenetic case of simmering anger and bias that you (as the old saying goes) can't see the forest for the trees. I will not dignify your assumptions of me by responding to your attacks on what you perceive as my views/beliefs on the entire matter of Charlottesville. You seem to have determined that all on your own, magically.

Defending the truth is not the same as defending any individuals in this or any matter. As I stated at the beginning of the post you are responding to here, the article clearly points out what I posted it for: Both sides had permits, yet in response to the purpose of my post, you totally avoided your misstatements from your earlier posts/comments about permits.

kankune Loc: Iowa

Very well said Randy. Keep em coming. : )

Randy131 Loc: Florida

Why are you a hypocrite? Because you say the same things about me, as you cliam I say about you. You have no more proof of what you say, as I have of what I say. But we know that the AntiFa and BLM wore bandana masks to hide their identities and armed themselves for a plan confrontation, just as they had done at Berkeley, and now at the Chicago court house where they attacked the Chicago police, just as they did in Berkley, and whether you want to admit it or not, just as they did in Charlottesville, and then you bring up about, "Can't see the forest for the trees," which descibes you perfectly, and you do it prejudicially, not accidently and unaware, because I have made facts known to you that you refuse to take into account in your decision of who the guilty party was that started the violence and riot in Charlottesville, which any intelligent person could surmize to be the same groups that started the violence at Berkley and the Chicago court house, who came dressed and armed the same way at all three sites, masked to hide their identities and armed for the confrontation that they planned. I've asked you, but you refuse to answer, why the AntiFa and BLM came masked with bandanas, and armed for a confrontation, to a peaceful protest march in all three places, Berkley, Charlottesville, and now the Chicago court house, and why did all three places end up in violent riots that had to be put down by the police, and the alt-right were only at one of those sites, doing everything legally by the book, just to have a rally, not a protest, or a confrontation?

The person you hold responsible for the Charlottesville riots was a Democratic advocate that worked in high places in both of Obama's elections, so why is he now associating with these alt-right groups? Is it any part of Obama's and the Democrats' plan to try to destroy President Trump by stirring up civil unrest between the detestable white supremist & KKK, with the detestable AntiFa & BLM, who call for the murder of police officers and white people, as they come to every event or protest masked and armed to the teeth, as every event and protest they attend is turned into a violent riot, where public and private property is destroyed, and people that don't agree with them are physically attacked and assaulted, and if you're not involved in their riot, and just standing there watching, then you are not in agreement with them, and are subject to physical attacks and assaults by them, and then you mention that I can't see the forest for the trees, have you looked in a mirror lately?

Take your BS to someone else, I don't believe a word you say, as you ignore facts, so as to blame the ones you hate the most, then you say that I'm filled with hate, anger, and biased, again look in the mirror. When the riot first took place, it was reported that the AntiFa and BLM had no permit, but after the event, they came up with one from the liberal biased city government of Charlottesville, so the police would only have to arrest those they consider the haters, that supposedly started the violent riot, and not the liberal advocates that the Democrats have embraced, the AntiFa and BLM, whose modus operandi has been proven by the latest three violent riots that they attended, masked with bandanas to hide their identities and armed for a confrontation.

I detest both sides for their beliefs, but I would not attack any of them, unless they attacked me first, then I'd do as that US Army SgtMaj did, that was going to a planned speech, but was attacked by over 100 AntiFa and BLM members when leaving his car, and he beat the shit out of as many as he could get his hands on. He put 26 of them in the hospital, and physically hurt another estimated 50, and the AntiFa and BLM members were only saved by the police getting their to arrest many of their members for starting a riot and assaulting this SgtMaj, who was also arrested to protect the other Antifa and BLM members that he hadn't gotten to yet. But the SgtMaj was released and thanked when he got to the police station, and was escorted back to his car, after the police chief offered him a job training his police force in hand to hand combat in a year later, when his retirement was coming up.

AntiFa and BLM, again masked, armed, and attacking someone who had done nothing to them, but was going to give a speech in favor of joining the US military. I would even fight for the detestible Antifa and BLM right to march peacefully, if they would ever really plan on doing that, as I now back the peaceful rally marchers who were first attacked and assaulted by the masked and armed AntiFa and BLM, but too agressively defended themselves. But I really can't blame them for agrresively defending themselves, because I would done the same if I were also attacked and assaulted, as the rally marchers were. And something that you can't understand is that no matter what their reason for their planned rally march, just because you like to label them as haters and detestibles, but not the Antifa and BLM groups because they are liberal advocates, they still have the right to do what they were given a permit for, no matter what anyone thinks of them, they're still American citizens. That's the difference between you and I, you want to blame those you hate the most, why I want to protect the rights of those being attacked, no matter how detestible they are, they are still Americans and have the right to exercise their freedoms legally and safely, without being attacked because some people want to call them haters, and should be done away with.

Why do I keep repeating myself, because you refuse to accept the truth that I put right under your nose, and haven't given me a reason that those who you champion, come to peaceful protests with bandana masks to hide their identities, and armed to the teeth for confrontations, and every event and protest they attend, have always ended up in violent riots with public and private property being destroyed, and innocent people being physically harmed through their attacks and assaults on all who don't agree with them or their agenda. But you blame those who went out of their way to abide by the law to have a peaceful rally in support for our national historical statues and monuments, a cause that the huge majority of southern Americans are for, in disguise for their true intention of causing a violent riot, which there are no trees for that forest, that you surmise only because of your hatred for that group.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I have read this repetitive, agenda-laden rant from you before, thus will comment on only one aspect of your misdirected comments: Your reference to the debunked nonsense regarding the Army Sgt. Major against the imagined Berkeley protestors. If you go back to that thread, you would find links that disclaim the entire story, as posted by several posters...including me. Like much of what is posted on OPP, it suited the poster's opinion/viewpoint...and as such...was posted without verifying the truth. These types of mistakes are often made, and would like to believe generally by accident. Your research ends when you discover the story you want to put forth, regardless of the truth.

That is your problem, Randy...you cherry-pick the stories you want to believe, and they must align with your views/beliefs. Otherwise, they will not be posted. I have, on occasion, posted that respect for the truth discounts stories that fall short of that, yet are posted to fit one's agenda. BTW, I challenge you to post proof I ever championed Antifa or BLM. You won't, because you can't. You imagine what you wish to think of others, with prejudice.