Sicilianthing wrote:
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This is always par for the course in going to war StraightUp.
the lines have to be defined and we're well on the way to doing this.
From what I can tell, the lines being defined by the various mobs of angry Americans, especially those calling themselves "patriots" are entirely delirious. Maybe you can show me some examples that I haven't seen yet?
Sicilianthing wrote:
My fear is that in the next year or within the next year we are going to cross the PNR with this process.
When that happens (and you'll know it) we're in serious trouble.
I'm not what "PNR" is a reference to. But if you're talking about an armed rebellion against the government, this is what *I* think will most likely happen... For the sake of argument I'll refer to your groups (paramilitary or whatever) as "patriots".
The government will identify these "patriots" as terrorists and will isolate them economically ('freezing accounts, revoking licenses, etc...) and culturally (using the media to portray the rebels as terrorists - so yes, we will know about it, but probably not the way you are thinking).
There are two things to be aware of going into this. First is the extent to which the government has already prepared for the type of action I think your are suggesting. Since 9/11 the government has been developing systems to track and obstruct what they call terrorists.
The USA PATRIOT Act (
Uniting and
Strengthening
America by
Providing
Appropriate
Tools
Required to
Intercept and
Obstruct
Terrorism... Act) In fact provides a foundation for destroying any of the civil rights laws that have been established over the years to protect us from an overbearing government, thereby clearing the way for a host of surveillance, security and prison systems designed to control anything that threatens the government, despite the safeguards against this by the Constitution.
If you have any doubts about this I suggest reading section 505 of that 700-page law. The important thing to realize is that the entire law is void of any definition for the term "terrorism". As it stands the POTUS, has the supreme right to call ANYONE a terrorist even a U.S. citizen.
The second thing to consider is the way the media sways the opinions of most Americans in such a way that we become divided. Here it's not so much the government but the ruling class that influences the media directly and in very sophisticated ways, including feeds into a wide range of channels that various factions tune into. We are already in a sort of beta-testing period where police brutality is exposed and the media's ability to influence the reaction of the people is being tested with what I think are alarming results.
From Bundy to Black Lives Matter, Americans confronted or victimized by the government are demonized by the media with tremendous effect. These practices can succeed in isolating "patriots" from the rest of the population who will not see the rebellion as a true fight for the people, but as a crime wave by people who deserve to be imprisoned.
Divide and conquer.
So... Be prepared to be classified as a terrorist. Be prepared to loose all your money that isn't stuffed under a mattress. Be prepared for the media to paint an ugly picture of your cause and be prepared for the American people to turn their backs on you.
In closing I just want to make sure you understand that I'm not trying to belittle your cause or your effectiveness but I *am* saying that the patriots I know, tend to overestimate their own abilities and underestimate the power of the government and the ruling class that controls it.
I think at this point, thanks to the ineffectiveness of a dumb-ass president, there is still a chance for the people to regain some control of the government through a democratic process. This alternative won't be as exciting as mustering up for battle but it has a far better chance of securing a better future for our children. There is a lot of action on this front right now, especially since Trump won the election and if you noticed, Muslim extremists have been mustering up for years and look where it's getting them... endless war and suffering.
Do you have children Sicilian?