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Jun 20, 2017 22:24:32   #
Sicilianthing
 
bahmer wrote:
I don't think any of us know what or if Trump knows or doesn't know. I do believe that Trump is clever like a fox and he has been through so many negotiations over the years that the rest of the politicians all hardly even come close to his number of dealings and the complexity of his dealings. I do not think that he is walking blindly at all and I believe that he see far more than people give him credit for.


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Noted and I'm very curious about OPP's process in notifying me about new posts.

I only noticed this answer and the ones after because I was scanning through my topics and noticed the 'New Posts' in green.

Why did Opp stop sending me the regular updates of people's posts answering mine ?

WTF is going on ?

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Jun 20, 2017 22:27:43   #
Sicilianthing
 
straightUp wrote:
How I wish I could have heard more of this in 2003... I knew then that it was all a scam but people were so amped up over 9/11, they just weren't thinking straight and they cheered Bush on like some kind of hero... and look what happened?

Do you think Trump was "hired" to get us out of there?

Sure would like to see his plan, 'cause from what I can tell, he's escalating things over there not cycling down. And when a president proposes a budget that starves funding for programs that help Americans so he can pass the largest increase in decades for military spending, it's hard to imagine he's going to inhibit meddling in foreign places.
How I wish I could have heard more of this in 2003... (show quote)


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Noted this is also a soft clue for why I think Trump has been compromised and the Bankster Families' War Machine - Ind Complex is in control again...

Or should I say Tel Aviv?

It's too soon to tell but in about 90+ days or so going into the fall and 4th quarter I'll have enough to show people that Trump's Tenure is in peril if he strays from their plan.

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Jun 21, 2017 01:28:43   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
bahmer wrote:
I knew that you would disagree but I look at it this way. Compared to the Kenyan community organizer that the liberals elected Trump has more qualifications and a better chance of succeeding if we help him as compared to the former eight year resident.

Perspective is a funny thing. Despite the fact that Barack Obama was born in the United States, you insist on referring to him as Kenyan because that's where his father came from. Technically, it's the same thing as calling Trump a German. But I understand, it colors the picture you're painting. You also refer to him a community organizer, despite the fact that he also got a degree in political science from Columbia University in New York and a Juris Doctorate in Law from Harvard, but wait, that's definitely the wrong color for your hateful portrait, so let's not mention that. In fact, let's hope no one picks up on the fact that a community organizer has far more to do with diplomacy than business does. Business is very easy because it's based on transactions. Communities are based on trust. So, in business if you have the money you call the shots no matter how sleazy you are, but you can't win over a community by being a rich slime ball. To win over a community you have to be trusted... like a hero, which Obama was and Trump will never be.

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Jun 21, 2017 01:53:22   #
Sicilianthing
 
straightUp wrote:
Perspective is a funny thing. Despite the fact that Barack Obama was born in the United States, you insist on referring to him as Kenyan because that's where his father came from. Technically, it's the same thing as calling Trump a German. But I understand, it colors the picture you're painting. You also refer to him a community organizer, despite the fact that he also got a degree in political science from Columbia University in New York and a Juris Doctorate in Law from Harvard, but wait, that's definitely the wrong color for your hateful portrait, so let's not mention that. In fact, let's hope no one picks up on the fact that a community organizer has far more to do with diplomacy than business does. Business is very easy because it's based on transactions. Communities are based on trust. So, in business if you have the money you call the shots no matter how sleazy you are, but you can't win over a community by being a rich slime ball. To win over a community you have to be trusted... like a hero, which Obama was and Trump will never be.
Perspective is a funny thing. Despite the fact tha... (show quote)


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Barry was only ever seen the first day and last of his college years.

None of his teachers ever remember seeing him in any class and they've all been interviewed.

He was groomed schooled programmed and absolutely brainwashed off site in total secrecy by masterful techticians of the illuminati and crown.

The selection process began when he was 12 and that rabbit hole is seriously deep.

So far we are closing in on the Attorney in Malibu who's paid to hide everything to this day.

Most people have no real clue what or who they're dealing with and how we got to this dilemma.

Traitor Coward or Patriot who deserves to Die !

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Jun 21, 2017 10:39:18   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Barry was only ever seen the first day and last of his college years.

None of his teachers ever remember seeing him in any class and they've all been interviewed.

I don't know if you ever went to college Sicilian but it's kinda hard to get a degree without actually showing up. So your story seems incredible (as in not credible). But feel free to show me your source. In the meantime here's this from Politifact.

President Obama graduated from Harvard Law School in 1991 and was admitted as a lawyer by the Supreme Court of Illinois on Dec. 17, 1991. Prior to being elected to the Illinois state Senate in 1996, he worked as a civil rights lawyer at the firm formerly known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Four days after Obama announced that he would run for president in February 2007, he voluntarily elected to have his law license placed on “inactive” status, according to Grogan. Then, after becoming president, he elected to change his status to “retired” in February 2009.
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/the-obamas-law-licenses/

...And this from Wikipedia...

Obama entered Harvard Law School in the fall of 1988, living in nearby Somerville, Massachusetts. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, president of the journal in his second year, and research assistant to the constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe while at Harvard for two years. During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as an associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990. After graduating with a JD degree magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago. Obama's election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review gained national media attention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Law_career

You can also check out the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois. Which is not media site but an official functioning registrar for attorneys in the State of Illinois. Just enter in "Obama" and see what shows up.
http://www.iardc.org/ardcroll.asp

I could list more references but honestly if you don't believe these sources, I'm going to guess you will refuse to believe ANY source that conflicts with your preferred "reality". You can disagree with his policies if you want, but I don't understand this need to stoutly deny well-established facts about his person. It doesn't do much for the credibility of your opinions.

Sicilianthing wrote:

He was groomed schooled programmed and absolutely brainwashed off site in total secrecy by masterful techticians of the illuminati and crown.

The selection process began when he was 12 and that rabbit hole is seriously deep.

So far we are closing in on the Attorney in Malibu who's paid to hide everything to this day.

Most people have no real clue what or who they're dealing with and how we got to this dilemma.

Traitor Coward or Patriot who deserves to Die !

Well, it's hard not to see you as someone who is seriously sucked up the butthole of crack-pot conspiracy theories, but I'll try... Send me your source.

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Jun 21, 2017 11:02:35   #
Sicilianthing
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, it's hard not to see you as someone who is seriously sucked up the butthole of crack-pot conspiracy theories, but I'll try... Send me your source.


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Everything you seek is proven in Interviews, Recordings, Dates, Times, People, Places, Archives, Testimony, Witnesses, etc...

You can dig and you can find for yourself Straight, I'm not here to really Prove to anyone anything I no longer do research for people... I have not time.

You can find and watch the independent interviews on film for every one of his Professors you so admire and tell me if you believe anything aside from a Factual Conspiracy.

If you choose to challenge me on Credible issues ?

I'll remind you that credible is comprehending that most of what you have been taught about the History of the World and how we got here is a Complete Fabrication.

Should you ever be fortunate to experience the 'Awakening' as some call it then you might understand where I and millions of other Patriots stand today.

Then you can take your vocabulary and remove the word Theory from the Conspiracy statement and step into the light of truth.

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Jun 21, 2017 11:17:01   #
S. Maturin
 
Here's the most reliable source telling all just exactly how a below-avg student with detestable personal habits and terrible attendance records can get a prestigious college to issue him a degree: It's called a Gentleman's 'C'. and it obtained simply by dumping (or having, say, a wealthy M.E. oil prince dump) huge sums onto the college. Then, 'wallah'! without even needing to hand in term papers or attending those bothersome lectures, the favorite child gets a certificate declaring him to be bonafide Edumacated.

Naturally, had Obama produced any of his "college records" all this would just go away.. but he cannot-not even the god of the liberals- produce something from nothing (contrary to the media claims).

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Jun 21, 2017 11:22:08   #
Sicilianthing
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Here's the most reliable source telling all just exactly how a below-avg student with detestable personal habits and terrible attendance records can get a prestigious college to issue him a degree: It's called a Gentleman's 'C'. and it obtained simply by dumping (or having, say, a wealthy M.E. oil prince dump) huge sums onto the college. Then, 'wallah'! without even needing to hand in term papers or attending those bothersome lectures, the favorite child gets a certificate declaring him to be bonafide Edumacated.

Naturally, had Obama produced any of his "college records" all this would just go away.. but he cannot-not even the god of the liberals- produce something from nothing (contrary to the media claims).
Here's the most reliable source telling all just e... (show quote)


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Correct Answer:

And the Attorney in Malibu is generously paid to this very day to continue removing, sealing and hiding the truth of this Traitor Scumbag and all those aiding n abetting.

But we're closing in this guy soon enough... they can all run but they have no where to hide.

for now we:

Expose
identify
Confront
Throttle and attack

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Jun 21, 2017 16:17:08   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Everything you seek is proven in Interviews, Recordings, Dates, Times, People, Places, Archives, Testimony, Witnesses, etc...

You can dig and you can find for yourself Straight, I'm not here to really Prove to anyone anything I no longer do research for people... I have not time.

You can find and watch the independent interviews on film for every one of his Professors you so admire and tell me if you believe anything aside from a Factual Conspiracy.

If you choose to challenge me on Credible issues ?

I'll remind you that credible is comprehending that most of what you have been taught about the History of the World and how we got here is a Complete Fabrication.

Should you ever be fortunate to experience the 'Awakening' as some call it then you might understand where I and millions of other Patriots stand today.

Then you can take your vocabulary and remove the word Theory from the Conspiracy statement and step into the light of truth.
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Well, of course I can find plenty of lies out there... The Internet is full of wacky claims. I was interested in what sources shaped YOUR opinion on the off-chance there might be something to it. You think I haven't read reams of false claims referenced by hotheads on this very site?

Look, as a general rule, if you "have not time" to back up your insulting claims either don't make them or be prepared to be confronted like people like me who CAN back up the things we say. It's pretty simple.

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Jun 21, 2017 16:25:24   #
Sicilianthing
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, of course I can find plenty of lies out there... The Internet is full of wacky claims. I was interested in what sources shaped YOUR opinion on the off-chance there might be something to it. You think I haven't read reams of false claims referenced by hotheads on this very site?

Look, as a general rule, if you "have not time" to back up your insulting claims either don't make them or be prepared to be confronted like people like me who CAN back up the things we say. It's pretty simple.
Well, of course I can find plenty of lies out ther... (show quote)


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I'll tell you what my little Korean friend, I have 2,700 topics in the years I've been here on OPP, not to mention all the others in other places, sites and commentary... of which over 98% of them have yet to be proven wrong otherwise.

So you can work off the 2% rule ....

How's that sound?


Now to be fair about your comment of Claims and backing them up or not ?
Here's an example in Real Time:

Why do you think the National Health Care bill is being secretly screened and passed behind closed doors ?
Remember (The Gov't has ZERO Business in Private or Public Health Care - We are a Republic not Socialist Society)
Is this an insulting Conspiracy ?

You only get 1 answer:

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Jun 23, 2017 02:02:08   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I'll tell you what my little Korean friend,

I'm not Korean.

Sicilianthing wrote:

I have 2,700 topics in the years I've been here on OPP, not to mention all the others in other places, sites and commentary... of which over 98% of them have yet to be proven wrong otherwise.

So you can work off the 2% rule ....

Counting topics really doesn't mean anything... I've been here a year longer than you have and I've seen a LOT of topics that don't amount to much more than a cheap insult or a baseless rant... Those are a dime a dozen. And I don't know why you're getting all pissy just because I asked you for a source, unless you don't actually have one. If you did it would have taken less time and effort to post the source than coming up with all these excuses.

Sicilianthing wrote:


Now to be fair about your comment of Claims and backing them up or not ?
Here's an example in Real Time:

Why do you think the National Health Care bill is being secretly screened and passed behind closed doors ?

The National Health Care bill is NOT being secretly passed behind closed doors. In fact, it can't pass without Congress voting on it (Constitution 101 my friend). What they ARE doing behind closed doors is writing the bill. I'm not exactly sure why, but my guess is they want to keep it secret for as long as possible before Congress votes, probably so Congress doesn't get a chance to discover how fucked up it is.

Sicilianthing wrote:

Remember (The Gov't has ZERO Business in Private or Public Health Care - We are a Republic not Socialist Society)

First of all the very definition of "public health care" is that government *IS* in involved. If government was not involved it wouldn't be public. Same for public schools. So you can't get mad at me for getting giggle out of your statement.

Secondly, being a republic has no bearing on whether or not the government has any business in healthcare. All a republic means is that we aren't a monarchy. That's it. In fact a republic can be socialist and some of them are, such as the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.

Furthermore, there is no rule that says the government can't be involved in healthcare. Feel free to push that tired old "enumerated powers" argument on me but don't expect to rock my world with a misunderstanding of the U.S.Constitution.

;)


Sicilianthing wrote:

Is this an insulting Conspiracy ?

You only get 1 answer:

OK, here it is... writing a bill behind closed doors is nothing new and it's always been sort of shady. The real test of their interity will be in how much time they let the rest of Congress have to review and vote. If they force a hasty vote, the whole thing would IMO, qualify as an conspiracy.

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Jun 23, 2017 05:13:58   #
PeterS
 
straightUp wrote:
OK, here it is... writing a bill behind closed doors is nothing new and it's always been sort of shady. The real test of their integrity will be in how much time they let the rest of Congress have to review and vote. If they force a hasty vote, the whole thing would IMO, qualify as an conspiracy.


All points nicely made. Always good to read your posts--especially after trying to wade through someone like Sici's...

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Jun 23, 2017 05:16:07   #
PeterS
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I'll tell you what my little Korean friend, I have 2,700 topics in the years I've been here on OPP, not to mention all the others in other places, sites and commentary....

All that proves is that you know how to cut and paste. I wasn't aware that was a talent that was hard to possess.

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Jun 23, 2017 09:08:24   #
Sicilianthing
 
straightUp wrote:
OK, here it is... writing a bill behind closed doors is nothing new and it's always been sort of shady. The real test of their interity will be in how much time they let the rest of Congress have to review and vote. If they force a hasty vote, the whole thing would IMO, qualify as an conspiracy.


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Noted and valid points.

I know you're not Korean, just joking.

Yes in the end it's possibly a real conspiracy and Trump has been sucked into the swamp.

I guess it depends what your beliefs are and willing to fight for.

This Gov't is a fraud system... hijacked, operating and under the complete control of a the Sham Crown both British and the Vatican if one chooses to follow that data.

Since I'm bound by a different covenant then yes I intend to Stop the Damages, Reverse them and Restore the Republic to the founders intent which is going to get ugly real soon.
Millions of patriots like myself are getting ready for the fight.

I'm not a Constitutional Expert, NO ONE Is.

But I can read and it's plain and simple English most of it.

You can go on thinking this is just the way it is in Washington but I am in a different camp who no longer believes that, and those of us in this camp are going to fight the rest in the other camps to prove it.

The rest I can't state here or they'll come for me, but I think you get the picture.

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Jun 23, 2017 09:09:24   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
All points nicely made. Always good to read your posts--especially after trying to wade through someone like Sici's...


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Yep we all know what Camp you're in Peter... know this !

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