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Jan 23, 2017 18:50:06   #
Dr.Dross
 
A picture is worth...alternative facts. Sean Spicer claimed of Trump's inauguration, "this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe." He did not provide any evidence. Because he couldn't. All the visual evidence and records kept by various businesses in D.C., such as arranged parking for Buses and the Metro, say the Inauguration was less than half the size of Obama's in 2009. But According to Nielsen, Trump did have the second highest viewing audience, again second to Obama's 2009 Inauguration. In today's news briefing, Spicer said ""Our intention is never to lie to you." This is the administration's Newspeak. Lie Saturday by an alternative fact and then promise the "intention" is never to lie, which seen though Newspeak (the actual term Orwell used in Nineteen Eighty-Four, not "doublespeak," the common term we use today) reads like this: “That's our intention but what we actually do is a whole different thing.” This falls under Compulsive Narrative Syndrome (CNS), which comes from another novel, the fourth Cassandra Kresnov book “23 Years On Fire.”

Here is a description of that Syndrome, which now includes the Newspeak (language that deliberately obscures, disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words and images) of "alternative facts" in the administration:

“The human brain is trained to look for and identify patterns, but in abstract concepts, fixed and unarguable facts are hard to find. So the brain looks for narratives instead, stories that can tie together various ideas and facts in a way that seems to make sense, to make a pattern. And the human brain, always seeking a pattern as a basic cognitive function, will latch onto a narrative pattern compulsively, and use that pattern as a framework within which to store new information, like a tradesman honing his skill, or someone learning a new language.
“That’s why religions tell such great stories, the story makes a pattern within which everything makes sense. A synchronicity of apparent facts. Political ideologies, too. Humans are suckers for a great story because we can’t resist the logical pattern it contains.
“When you’re learning a new skill, discarding irrelevant information and organizing the relevant stuff within that framework is good. But in ideologies, it means any information that doesn’t fit the ideological narrative is literally discarded, and won’t be remembered . . . which is why you can argue facts with ideologues and they’ll just ignore you. They’re not just being stubborn, their brains are literally structurally incapable of processing what they perceive as pattern-anomalous data."

This may also be said of the Liberal's in media at times, pollsters, and social networks, through search engines. Speaking of liberals in the media, if you have CNS, telling you today's media are more conservative than liberal, as proven by numerous studies and a stroll through Sunday Talk Shows, will be a waste of time. That will mean that you cannot automatically dismiss what is reported as bias when it bumps up against ideological belief narrative. Provable facts, then, actually exist. Terrifying to contemplate if you are an Ideologue, I know.

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Jan 23, 2017 19:18:01   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
A picture is worth...alternative facts. Sean Spicer claimed of Trump's inauguration, "this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe." He did not provide any evidence. Because he couldn't. All the visual evidence and records kept by various businesses in D.C., such as arranged parking for Buses and the Metro, say the Inauguration was less than half the size of Obama's in 2009. But According to Nielsen, Trump did have the second highest viewing audience, again second to Obama's 2009 Inauguration. In today's news briefing, Spicer said ""Our intention is never to lie to you." This is the administration's Newspeak. Lie Saturday by an alternative fact and then promise the "intention" is never to lie, which seen though Newspeak (the actual term Orwell used in Nineteen Eighty-Four, not "doublespeak," the common term we use today) reads like this: “That's our intention but what we actually do is a whole different thing.” This falls under Compulsive Narrative Syndrome (CNS), which comes from another novel, the fourth Cassandra Kresnov book “23 Years On Fire.”

Here is a description of that Syndrome, which now includes the Newspeak (language that deliberately obscures, disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words and images) of "alternative facts" in the administration:

“The human brain is trained to look for and identify patterns, but in abstract concepts, fixed and unarguable facts are hard to find. So the brain looks for narratives instead, stories that can tie together various ideas and facts in a way that seems to make sense, to make a pattern. And the human brain, always seeking a pattern as a basic cognitive function, will latch onto a narrative pattern compulsively, and use that pattern as a framework within which to store new information, like a tradesman honing his skill, or someone learning a new language.
“That’s why religions tell such great stories, the story makes a pattern within which everything makes sense. A synchronicity of apparent facts. Political ideologies, too. Humans are suckers for a great story because we can’t resist the logical pattern it contains.
“When you’re learning a new skill, discarding irrelevant information and organizing the relevant stuff within that framework is good. But in ideologies, it means any information that doesn’t fit the ideological narrative is literally discarded, and won’t be remembered . . . which is why you can argue facts with ideologues and they’ll just ignore you. They’re not just being stubborn, their brains are literally structurally incapable of processing what they perceive as pattern-anomalous data."

This may also be said of the Liberal's in media at times, pollsters, and social networks, through search engines. Speaking of liberals in the media, if you have CNS, telling you today's media are more conservative than liberal, as proven by numerous studies and a stroll through Sunday Talk Shows, will be a waste of time. That will mean that you cannot automatically dismiss what is reported as bias when it bumps up against ideological belief narrative. Provable facts, then, actually exist. Terrifying to contemplate if you are an Ideologue, I know.
A picture is worth...alternative facts. Sean Spice... (show quote)


Anyone else notice how he stole my post about CNS? Also, notice how he tries to make it look like Conservatives are the only ones who suffer from it. Looks like you have a bad case of it, Drossie.

BTW. Trumps inauguration WAS the most watched ever, if you include the websites that had live stream. These are not figured in the Nielsen ratings.

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Jan 23, 2017 19:25:26   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Anyone else notice how he stole my post about CNS? Also, notice how he tries to make it look like Conservatives are the only ones who suffer from it. Looks like you have a bad case of it, Drossie.

BTW. Trumps inauguration WAS the most watched ever, if you include the websites that had live stream. These are not figured in the Nielsen ratings.


Let him run circles around nothing while we pay attention to the real news, Mr.Bombastic~~
President Trump' first official day in office along wits everything else he signed or retracted today is off to an excellent start...don't you think, Mr Bombastic???


The war on ISIS just kicked up a notch. Per the Washington Examiner:

The Pentagon says the Islamic State is on the run in east Mosul, and that U.S. airstrikes blasted 10 boats on the Tigris River as Islamic State fighters tried to flee to the western part of the Iraqi city.

"It is a great to not be a member of the ISIL Navy," Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said on Monday.

The Pentagon says U.S. airstrikes have taken out 143 of the boats that the Islamic State uses to move from one side of the city to the other now that all five bridges that cross the Tigris have been destroyed.

"Our message to ISIL is this: 'We will not allow you to get away to the other side of the river, and set up shop there,' " Davis said.
This is a great day for the US military. We hope the Iranian Navy is taking note. There's a new sheriff in town.


Source: American Action News

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Jan 23, 2017 19:54:37   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
CNN... Compulsive.. Narrative...News.

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Jan 23, 2017 20:12:43   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
A picture is worth...alternative facts. Sean Spicer claimed of Trump's inauguration, "this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe." He did not provide any evidence. Because he couldn't. All the visual evidence and records kept by various businesses in D.C., such as arranged parking for Buses and the Metro, say the Inauguration was less than half the size of Obama's in 2009. But According to Nielsen, Trump did have the second highest viewing audience, again second to Obama's 2009 Inauguration. In today's news briefing, Spicer said ""Our intention is never to lie to you." This is the administration's Newspeak. Lie Saturday by an alternative fact and then promise the "intention" is never to lie, which seen though Newspeak (the actual term Orwell used in Nineteen Eighty-Four, not "doublespeak," the common term we use today) reads like this: “That's our intention but what we actually do is a whole different thing.” This falls under Compulsive Narrative Syndrome (CNS), which comes from another novel, the fourth Cassandra Kresnov book “23 Years On Fire.”

Here is a description of that Syndrome, which now includes the Newspeak (language that deliberately obscures, disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words and images) of "alternative facts" in the administration:

“The human brain is trained to look for and identify patterns, but in abstract concepts, fixed and unarguable facts are hard to find. So the brain looks for narratives instead, stories that can tie together various ideas and facts in a way that seems to make sense, to make a pattern. And the human brain, always seeking a pattern as a basic cognitive function, will latch onto a narrative pattern compulsively, and use that pattern as a framework within which to store new information, like a tradesman honing his skill, or someone learning a new language.
“That’s why religions tell such great stories, the story makes a pattern within which everything makes sense. A synchronicity of apparent facts. Political ideologies, too. Humans are suckers for a great story because we can’t resist the logical pattern it contains.
“When you’re learning a new skill, discarding irrelevant information and organizing the relevant stuff within that framework is good. But in ideologies, it means any information that doesn’t fit the ideological narrative is literally discarded, and won’t be remembered . . . which is why you can argue facts with ideologues and they’ll just ignore you. They’re not just being stubborn, their brains are literally structurally incapable of processing what they perceive as pattern-anomalous data."

This may also be said of the Liberal's in media at times, pollsters, and social networks, through search engines. Speaking of liberals in the media, if you have CNS, telling you today's media are more conservative than liberal, as proven by numerous studies and a stroll through Sunday Talk Shows, will be a waste of time. That will mean that you cannot automatically dismiss what is reported as bias when it bumps up against ideological belief narrative. Provable facts, then, actually exist. Terrifying to contemplate if you are an Ideologue, I know.
A picture is worth...alternative facts. Sean Spice... (show quote)


You quote Kresnov: "“When you’re learning a new skill, discarding irrelevant information and organizing the relevant stuff within that framework is good. But in ideologies, it means any information that doesn’t fit the ideological narrative is literally discarded, and won’t be remembered . . . which is why you can argue facts with ideologues and they’ll just ignore you. They’re not just being stubborn, their brains are literally structurally incapable of processing what they perceive as pattern-anomalous data."

So here is the social narrative of the Democrat Party on additional sets of laws for protected classes: Special laws beyond the Constitution's guaranteeing equal protection under the law for all citizens go to the GLBT society, minority races, handicapped, and elderly.

Where do single adults who abstain from all sex stand with guarantees of equal protection under the law? The Liberal Lefties don't acknowledge the existence of single adults who abstain from sex, hence, they remain a piece of "pattern-anomalous data"? There are heterosexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, and transgender-sexuals but no homo-sapiens practicing abstinence in their ideological framework of life in the barnyard?

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Jan 23, 2017 20:15:56   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
While Obama was drawing a fake red line in the sand and being scoffed at Trump is kicking ass and taking names. I agree. Wonderful way to start the day.
lindajoy wrote:
Let him run circles around nothing while we pay attention to the real news, Mr.Bombastic~~
President Trump' first official day in office along wits everything else he signed or retracted today is off to an excellent start...don't you think, Mr Bombastic???


The war on ISIS just kicked up a notch. Per the Washington Examiner:

The Pentagon says the Islamic State is on the run in east Mosul, and that U.S. airstrikes blasted 10 boats on the Tigris River as Islamic State fighters tried to flee to the western part of the Iraqi city.

"It is a great to not be a member of the ISIL Navy," Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said on Monday.

The Pentagon says U.S. airstrikes have taken out 143 of the boats that the Islamic State uses to move from one side of the city to the other now that all five bridges that cross the Tigris have been destroyed.

"Our message to ISIL is this: 'We will not allow you to get away to the other side of the river, and set up shop there,' " Davis said.
This is a great day for the US military. We hope the Iranian Navy is taking note. There's a new sheriff in town.


Source: American Action News
Let him run circles around nothing while we pay at... (show quote)

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Jan 23, 2017 20:28:08   #
Mr Bombastic
 
lindajoy wrote:
Let him run circles around nothing while we pay attention to the real news, Mr.Bombastic~~
President Trump' first official day in office along wits everything else he signed or retracted today is off to an excellent start...don't you think, Mr Bombastic???


The war on ISIS just kicked up a notch. Per the Washington Examiner:

The Pentagon says the Islamic State is on the run in east Mosul, and that U.S. airstrikes blasted 10 boats on the Tigris River as Islamic State fighters tried to flee to the western part of the Iraqi city.

"It is a great to not be a member of the ISIL Navy," Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said on Monday.

The Pentagon says U.S. airstrikes have taken out 143 of the boats that the Islamic State uses to move from one side of the city to the other now that all five bridges that cross the Tigris have been destroyed.

"Our message to ISIL is this: 'We will not allow you to get away to the other side of the river, and set up shop there,' " Davis said.
This is a great day for the US military. We hope the Iranian Navy is taking note. There's a new sheriff in town.


Source: American Action News
Let him run circles around nothing while we pay at... (show quote)


I would LOVE to see ISIS defeated during Trumps first term in office. It would show just what a bungling idiot Obama was.

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Jan 23, 2017 21:22:40   #
Dr.Dross
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Anyone else notice how he stole my post about CNS? Also, notice how he tries to make it look like Conservatives are the only ones who suffer from it. Looks like you have a bad case of it, Drossie.

BTW. Trumps inauguration WAS the most watched ever, if you include the websites that had live stream. These are not figured in the Nielsen ratings.


Please re-read my post, but I will help you on the charge that I "make it look like Conservatives are the only ones who suffer from it": 'This may also be said of the Liberal's in media at times, pollsters, and social networks, through search engines.'

I have no problem with it being possibly the most watched ever. But Spicer was not making that point. He was talking about actual crowd attendance. And I would not have cared if trump had 2 million in attendance; the point is irrelevant.

And sorry if you had a post about CNS; I did not see it. I started writing about my post Friday night and just got around to publishing it.

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Jan 23, 2017 21:31:14   #
Dr.Dross
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
You quote Kresnov: "“When you’re learning a new skill, discarding irrelevant information and organizing the relevant stuff within that framework is good. But in ideologies, it means any information that doesn’t fit the ideological narrative is literally discarded, and won’t be remembered . . . which is why you can argue facts with ideologues and they’ll just ignore you. They’re not just being stubborn, their brains are literally structurally incapable of processing what they perceive as pattern-anomalous data."

So here is the social narrative of the Democrat Party on additional sets of laws for protected classes: Special laws beyond the Constitution's guaranteeing equal protection under the law for all citizens go to the GLBT society, minority races, handicapped, and elderly.

Where do single adults who abstain from all sex stand with guarantees of equal protection under the law? The Liberal Lefties don't acknowledge the existence of single adults who abstain from sex, hence, they remain a piece of "pattern-anomalous data"? There are heterosexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, and transgender-sexuals but no homo-sapiens practicing abstinence in their ideological framework of life in the barnyard?
You quote Kresnov: "“When you’re learning a n... (show quote)


I talked about Ideologues of every quarter. Liberals of course can be equally guilty. But the best example being this recent Newspeak of "alternative facts." The utter absurdity of such a statement falls squarely down the rabbit, to be kindest about its nature, but more accurately falls into the category of unhinged or insane.

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Jan 23, 2017 21:41:13   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Please re-read my post, but I will help you on the charge that I "make it look like Conservatives are the only ones who suffer from it": 'This may also be said of the Liberal's in media at times, pollsters, and social networks, through search engines.'

I have no problem with it being possibly the most watched ever. But Spicer was not making that point. He was talking about actual crowd attendance. And I would not have cared if trump had 2 million in attendance; the point is irrelevant.

And sorry if you had a post about CNS; I did not see it. I started writing about my post Friday night and just got around to publishing it.
Please re-read my post, but I will help you on the... (show quote)


Fair enough. Anyway, it's an interesting topic that explains a lot about how some people simply refuse to listen to anything that disagrees with their world view. It's really amazing how you can quote verified facts to someone, and it just bounces off of them. I try to keep an open mind, even though their are some things that I will simply not budge on. Because I "KNOW" I'm right.

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Jan 23, 2017 21:41:54   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
While Obama was drawing a fake red line in the sand and being scoffed at Trump is kicking ass and taking names. I agree. Wonderful way to start the day.


It's nice to see ACTION in his words isn't it, J??
So unusual to see as well...

He will meet plenty of hurdles in trying to stay true to his pledges but I remain optimistic that he will..
He is after all, the anomaly, as never seen before... Able to achieve as none has ever done before...

I'm liking every bit of it..!!!

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Jan 23, 2017 22:42:21   #
Dr.Dross
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Fair enough. Anyway, it's an interesting topic that explains a lot about how some people simply refuse to listen to anything that disagrees with their world view. It's really amazing how you can quote verified facts to someone, and it just bounces off of them. I try to keep an open mind, even though their are some things that I will simply not budge on. Because I "KNOW" I'm right.


Amazing how we can both know we are right and still disagree. Has such a thing ever happened in history? I understand. Throughout my life many things seemed to be one way when they were another because I wanted them to be as I saw it. Yet I try, after long trial and error, as best I can to reserve judgment for inquiry, give the benefit of a doubt. I am not always successful. But when I can finally get a grip on my emotions on some hot issue, I use a device a good friend told me about called playing the Devil's Advocate: I put my beliefs and opinions and observations through a gauntlet of opposition, trying to distill some truth or reveal some falsehood. Not a perfect system but helpful.

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Jan 23, 2017 22:53:46   #
Dr.Dross
 
lindajoy wrote:
It's nice to see ACTION in his words isn't it, J??
So unusual to see as well...

He will meet plenty of hurdles in trying to stay true to his pledges but I remain optimistic that he will..
He is after all, the anomaly, as never seen before... Able to achieve as none has ever done before...

I'm liking every bit of it..!!!


"He will meet plenty of hurdles in trying to stay true to his pledges but I remain optimistic that he will.." His pledge to "drain the swamp" has been betrayed from day one and before. The company he singled out as being "the revolving door" of corruption in Washington, lambasted Cruz and Hillary for having any connection to them, he has given key appointments and nominations in his administration. His main donor is a Goldman Sachs alum who he gave a major advisory position. How much evidence do you need? But you guys explain away his choices despite his adamant and vociferous denunciation and condemnation of Goldman Sachs as an enemy of the people. LOOK IT UP, for crying out loud.

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Jan 23, 2017 23:15:37   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
He is upsetting the proverbial applecart. He will find enemies on both sides of the aisle. I just hope the conservatives don't fall for progressive BS. You know like I hope Trumps succeeds for the countries sake. Or reach across the aisle and we will work together. How about I didn't really mean what I said. The left has shown over and over they will approve any lie or slight they themselves do too further what they consider the greater good.
lindajoy wrote:
It's nice to see ACTION in his words isn't it, J??
So unusual to see as well...

He will meet plenty of hurdles in trying to stay true to his pledges but I remain optimistic that he will..
He is after all, the anomaly, as never seen before... Able to achieve as none has ever done before...

I'm liking every bit of it..!!!

Reply
Jan 23, 2017 23:46:42   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
"He will meet plenty of hurdles in trying to stay true to his pledges but I remain optimistic that he will.." His pledge to "drain the swamp" has been betrayed from day one and before. The company he singled out as being "the revolving door" of corruption in Washington, lambasted Cruz and Hillary for having any connection to them, he has given key appointments and nominations in his administration. His main donor is a Goldman Sachs alum who he gave a major advisory position. How much evidence do you need? But you guys explain away his choices despite his adamant and vociferous denunciation and condemnation of Goldman Sachs as an enemy of the people. LOOK IT UP, for crying out loud.
"He will meet plenty of hurdles in trying to ... (show quote)


Do you think Mnuchin is a defector from Goldman Sachs? Look at his resume, where he quit Goldman Sachs and started up his own investment firm backing Hollywood movies such as AVATAR.

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