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Nov 17, 2016 16:01:10   #
endgame Loc: earth; still on top
 
Haaaaaa... Aaaand here comes that self righteous anger again.... Thanks - great example!

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Nov 17, 2016 16:10:21   #
Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
 
kcstargoat wrote:
Prayer had nothing to do with Donald Trump's election. A lot of hard work and the message to the people had everything to do with him being elected. The people agreed with his message and elected him to fulfill his intentions.


Hard Work was The Donald's part.

Hard Prayer was the Voter's part.

The Donald's election was God's part.

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Nov 17, 2016 16:12:30   #
endgame Loc: earth; still on top
 
Nice little doggeral ?

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Nov 17, 2016 16:18:01   #
endgame Loc: earth; still on top
 
Hard work not nuff for Hillary

All prayers missed the mark.

Her loss was God's loss too.

So he loosed his Democratic masses

Creating death, destruction & havoc

On you and you and you.

(Burma shave)

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Nov 17, 2016 16:55:36   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
endgame wrote:
Hard work not nuff for Hillary

All prayers missed the mark.

Her loss was God's loss too.

So he loosed his Democratic masses

Creating death, destruction & havoc

On you and you and you.

(Burma shave)
It is one thing to argue the validity of your beliefs, but denying the validity of others beliefs and mocking them for it is intellectual snobbery. It is truly self-righteous hypocrisy.

Christians don't really give a damn what those who have denied God believe. We have been thoroughly taught what to make of the reprobate mind. You are free to choose your own belief system, but when you mock, criticize and condemn others just because they have a different beliefs, you lose all credibility. A person of mature intelligence would argue for the merits of their own beliefs rather than thumb your nose at others. As it is you come across as an immature bully.

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Nov 17, 2016 16:56:25   #
Mr Bombastic
 
endgame wrote:
Mr. Bombastic is far further into a correct biblical interpretation.


Thank you. I don't understand why so many people have a problem understanding what the Bible teaches. I believe that ignorance plays a large part but there is also a refusal, on the part of many, to accept what the Bible clearly says. They want the Bible to say what they think it should. I think a good rule of thumb is...If your interpretation makes you feel good about yourself, it's probably wrong. There are many parts of Scripture that I am uncomfortable with. That is because it is the Holy Spirit telling me that I don't measure up. Scripture is not meant to make us feel good. It is meant to convict. Does that make any sense?

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Nov 17, 2016 17:05:33   #
Mr Bombastic
 
padremike wrote:
"Far further into a correct interpretation?" Just what the hell does that mean? It takes an interpreter to decipher that bombastic remark.

Mr Bombastic doesn't know squat! May he be protected from a physician of the body ever practicing medicine on him possessing the lack of knowledge on him that he allows his pride to withhold Truth. The type of Truth that saves the soul. But he's not my problem.

Ok, maybe hitting the "unwatch" switch the third time will be the charm. First and second failed.
"Far further into a correct interpretation?&q... (show quote)


So you think I don't know anything? Name one thing I was mistaken about. I believe that Jesus is the Son of God. I believe that He is the only path to Salvation. I believe that a person is saved by repentance and accepting Jesus as Lord of their life. Is any of that wrong? If so, tell me how. You claim that the church is the only authority on Scripture. This is not so. The Holy Spirit is the final interpreter of Scripture, and It is available to every believer in Christ. Also, with all of the resources available, anyone can an expert on Scripture. We have Bible Dictionaries. We have commentaries by by countless theologians. We have chain reference Bibles...the list goes on. Anyone, who prays and asks for the guidance of the Holy Ghost, can interpret Scripture. That doesn't make them an authority on everything Biblical. But they can read the Bible and understand it. We don't need a church for that. God is not the author of confusion. Anyone can understand Gods word, if they are in Christ, and truly seek understanding.

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Nov 17, 2016 17:27:19   #
endgame Loc: earth; still on top
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Thank you. I don't understand why so many people have a problem understanding what the Bible teaches. I believe that ignorance plays a large part but there is also a refusal, on the part of many, to accept what the Bible clearly says. They want the Bible to say what they think it should. I think a good rule of thumb is...If your interpretation makes you feel good about yourself, it's probably wrong. There are many parts of Scripture that I am uncomfortable with. That is because it is the Holy Spirit telling me that I don't measure up. Scripture is not meant to make us feel good. It is meant to convict. Does that make any sense?
Thank you. I don't understand why so many people h... (show quote)


I know the question was rhetorical (Mebbe?). But yes - where your beliefs are based - it makes enormous sense!


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Nov 17, 2016 17:40:05   #
Mr Bombastic
 
endgame wrote:
I know the question was rhetorical (Mebbe?). But yes - where your beliefs are based - it makes enormous sense!



What I meant is that many let their own reasoning get in the way of what the Holy Spirit is trying to tell them. Something is preventing them. Mostly, I believe it is an unwillingness to admit that they might be wrong. Probably because they are uncomfortable with the truth. People want to feel good about themselves. When Scripture tells them that a certain belief or action is sinful, their minds clam up and refuse to listen. This is why prayer is so important. We must ask God for understanding, whether we like what we find, or not. If you do not pray to God before studying His word, you study in vein.

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Nov 17, 2016 17:44:40   #
endgame Loc: earth; still on top
 
Pretty much what my brother use to tout...

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Nov 17, 2016 18:13:04   #
endgame Loc: earth; still on top
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
It is one thing to argue the validity of your beliefs, but denying the validity of others beliefs and mocking them for it is intellectual snobbery. It is truly self-righteous hypocrisy.

Christians don't really give a damn what those who have denied God believe. We have been thoroughly taught what to make of the reprobate mind. You are free to choose your own belief system, but when you mock, criticize and condemn others just because they have a different beliefs, you lose all credibility. A person of mature intelligence would argue for the merits of their own beliefs rather than thumb your nose at others. As it is you come across as an immature bully.
It is one thing to argue the validity of your beli... (show quote)




Can't deny what doesn't exist...

Your own perceptions of how "I come across" are your own & ur welcome to em.

I don't even ask for your version of "mock"... Would be innacurrate at best - outright perveracation (I spell that right?) at worst.

So - all god believers can post whatever they want? And others cannot... Do I have that part correct? (Rhet quest)...

Have you ever been a " bully" victim? Long term?
(Rhet quests also)

And finally out of yet another angry diatribe "Christians don't really give a damn"... You are Soooo correct!!!

Really enjoying alla this... There are some really good minds out there!!!

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Nov 18, 2016 10:53:57   #
kcstargoat
 
I am willing to discuss the existence of God at any time. I am agnostic. I don't say there is NO god, I just say I haven't found one yet. I've studied the Bible, Quran, Buddhism, Hinduism and several other religious tomes and have discovered nothing that would make me seriously consider the existence of a God. Religious doctrine is just that - doctrine. No amount of improvable stories and literature is going to create God. All religious material was written by man, one of the most untrustworthy sources on earth. I think the one thing that could prove to me there is a God is an epiphany or actual visit by God. But I am not subject to epiphanies and am not important enough in the scheme of life for an individual visit by God. I am quite happy without a God and don't see the need for one. If there is a God so vindictive as to send me to a "Hell" when I die, I have to say that that God likes playing with people's lives. I am a good person, follow the Golden rule and the ten commandments as much I am able (nine of ten ain't bad.) Just because I don't believe some stories and fables, I am going to be punished? Where? In some place of "afterlife?" Doesn't sound very merciful or reasonable to me. I think if there is some God I can't sense and he is indeed is judicial in my behavior, then I will do OK. I've tried and am trying to live a good life, contribute to my charities and always be kind.

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Nov 18, 2016 11:19:22   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
endgame wrote:
Can't deny what doesn't exist...

Your own perceptions of how "I come across" are your own & ur welcome to em.

I don't even ask for your version of "mock"... Would be innacurrate at best - outright perveracation (I spell that right?) at worst.

So - all god believers can post whatever they want? And others cannot... Do I have that part correct? (Rhet quest)...

Have you ever been a " bully" victim? Long term?
(Rhet quests also)

And finally out of yet another angry diatribe "Christians don't really give a damn"... You are Soooo correct!!!

Really enjoying alla this... There are some really good minds out there!!!
Can't deny what doesn't exist... br br Your own ... (show quote)
Of course, you are free to post whatever you want. You are free to choose your own belief system, but when you mock, criticize and condemn others just because they have a different beliefs, you exhibit intellectual immaturity and lose all credibility. Rather than defend or articulate the validity or merits of your own beliefs, you just make off-the-cuff statements then attack the beliefs of others. Pettiness doesn't cut it.

BTW: To identify a lack of concern for an admitted reprobate is not an "angry diatribe", I simply don't give a shit what you believe. Obviously, neither do you.

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Nov 18, 2016 11:22:18   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kcstargoat wrote:
I am willing to discuss the existence of God at any time. I am agnostic. I don't say there is NO god, I just say I haven't found one yet. I've studied the Bible, Quran, Buddhism, Hinduism and several other religious tomes and have discovered nothing that would make me seriously consider the existence of a God. Religious doctrine is just that - doctrine. No amount of improvable stories and literature is going to create God. All religious material was written by man, one of the most untrustworthy sources on earth. I think the one thing that could prove to me there is a God is an epiphany or actual visit by God. But I am not subject to epiphanies and am not important enough in the scheme of life for an individual visit by God. I am quite happy without a God and don't see the need for one. If there is a God so vindictive as to send me to a "Hell" when I die, I have to say that that God likes playing with people's lives. I am a good person, follow the Golden rule and the ten commandments as much I am able (nine of ten ain't bad.) Just because I don't believe some stories and fables, I am going to be punished? Where? In some place of "afterlife?" Doesn't sound very merciful or reasonable to me. I think if there is some God I can't sense and he is indeed is judicial in my behavior, then I will do OK. I've tried and am trying to live a good life, contribute to my charities and always be kind.
I am willing to discuss the existence of God at an... (show quote)
You've read those scriptures, you didn't study them. And as for discussing the existence of God, apparently you've already made up your mind on that score, so what's to discuss.

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Nov 18, 2016 11:40:39   #
kcstargoat
 
Oh really. You are a man of closed mind. Making snap judgement of people you don't even know. It's obvious what you think about agnostics. You, bucko, is what is wrong with this world. It's your way or the highway. You have already made up your mind what an agnostic is and you are dead wrong. Look up agnostic in the dictionary. I am always looking for a reason to believe in God. I studied (not just read) the scriptures 35 years ago. Has something changed?

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