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Apr 13, 2017 15:10:54   #
theotts
 


Mr Sprat could eat no fat, Mrs Sprat no lean.

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Apr 13, 2017 15:14:48   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
theotts wrote:
Well said. But I'll go a step further; people who have the need to carry guns openly in public are not to be trusted. It's either paranoia or exhibitionist behavior, which makes them the sort of people who should be thoroughly vetted before they get a gun.
They do not believe in freedom. They believe in license, and I've found few of them who know any parts of the Constitution except the second half of the second article. Do you really think the language about a militia is adventitious? Most of the "packin'" advocates are Repugnican, who claim they believe in "original intent." How about the shaky Constitutional status of a standing army? The entire USA PATRIOT Act is an insult to the Constitution which these "freedom" advocates support full-throatedly.
Well said. But I'll go a step further; people who ... (show quote)


You know all sorts of things that aren't so. As a matter of fact, most Conservatives oppose the Patriot Act I would say you know very few Conservatives period. People who carry guns in public are perfectly trustworthy It's morons like you who are not to be trusted. Before I explain "militia" in language that you can understand, I think I will let you show your ass publicly a little more.
You also used adventitious improperly.

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Apr 13, 2017 15:28:46   #
theotts
 
Loki wrote:
You know all sorts of things that aren't so. As a matter of fact, most Conservatives oppose the Patriot Act I would say you know very few Conservatives period. People who carry guns in public are perfectly trustworthy It's morons like you who are not to be trusted. Before I explain "militia" in language that you can understand, I think I will let you show your ass publicly a little more.
You also used adventitious improperly.


Do you mean conservatives like George Will, Krauthammer, everybody in congress who made it law, half a dozen radio hacks, and Trump? Or do you mean some guy you talked to at a bar? I have no difficulty with either the word "militia" or the word "adventitious." If you check Part II of the Constitution, you'll see that the militia
a is to be under the sole control of Congress.

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Apr 13, 2017 15:36:40   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
theotts wrote:
Do you mean conservatives like George Will, Krauthammer, everybody in congress who made it law, half a dozen radio hacks, and Trump? Or do you mean some guy you talked to at a bar? I have no difficulty with either the word "militia" or the word "adventitious." If you check Part II of the Constitution, you'll see that the militia
a is to be under the sole control of Congress.


The Constitution has Articles, not "parts." Do enlighten all of us benighted clingers further. Tell us more from your encyclopedic knowledge of the militia. Please continue, oh Fountain of Wisdom.

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Apr 13, 2017 15:45:17   #
badbob85037
 
Just remember it was Republicans that passed the U.N's Desertification Treaty giving the UN control of 70% of our land. You may remember the reaction of Americans seeing signs at all our national parks saying under UN control. The signs came down but had no effect on who controls them.

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Apr 13, 2017 16:54:21   #
theotts
 
Loki wrote:
The Constitution has Articles, not "parts." Do enlighten all of us benighted clingers further. Tell us more from your encyclopedic knowledge of the militia. Please continue, oh Fountain of Wisdom.


The Articles are popularly known as the Bill of Rights, boy.
Benighted indeed. I'm prepared to believe you've never read the Constitution, O! River of Pretense.

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Apr 13, 2017 17:01:40   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
JFlorio wrote:
Can't believe I finally found something to agree with you on. The Patriot Act is an abomination. Where you're wrong, at least with the Conservatives I know, they are against the Patriot Act also. Should have been called the Government Tyranny Act.


You are so on the mark, and both my wife and I are lifetime NRA supporting members.

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Apr 13, 2017 17:20:43   #
Makaipi
 
no propaganda please wrote:
WND RADIO
Trump move 'tremendous victory for America's gun owners'
But ex-NRA chief urges president to 'kill' U.S. signature on U.N. treaty


Former National Rifle Association President David Keene says the Second Amendment dodged a major bullet when the vacant seat on the Supreme Court was filled by Justice Neil Gorsuch, but he warns the threat to gun ownership is far from over.

Keene gives credit to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell for refusing to advance President Obama’s choice of Judge Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court and for doing what was necessary to get Gorsuch confirmed.

“If Garland had won confirmation, that would have reversed the majority favoring the Second Amendment as defined by the founders and as ratified by the Supreme Court in the Heller decision some years ago as an individual right to keep and bear arms,” Keene told WND and Radio America.

“Preventing the Garland confirmation and replacing Antonin Scalia with Justice Gorsuch is a tremendous victory for America’s gun owners, for believers in freedom and for the Second Amendment,” he said.


Keene, who is now opinion editor at the Washington Times and co-author of “Shall Not be Infringed,” firmly believes that the gun issue and the Supreme Court vacancy was a big reason for President Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton and for winning over voters in swing states who had supported Democrats in the past.

But Keene is quick to warn Second Amendment supporters that the fight is not over.

“It does not mean that gun owners can be comfortable in terms of what might happen during the course of the next year or so at the Supreme Court level because it simply re-establishes the majority that existed with Scalia on the court, a very shaky majority,” Keene said.

Listen to the WND/Radio America interview with David Keene:
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Another major threat, he said, comes from Obama’s handiwork in signing on to the United Nations Small Arms Treaty. Even without Senate ratification, Keene said the agreement puts pressure on the U.S. to violate its own Constitution.

“Even if it’s not ratified, under international law, a nation is supposedly prohibited from acting contrary to the spirit and letter of a treaty, even though it has not been ratified through processes within the country itself,” he explained.

The U.S. can ignore the treaty, but Keene is urging decisive action against it.

“It really needs to be killed,” Keene said. “There are two ways to do that. One, the president of the United States has the authority to withdraw this nation’s signature from the treaty. I hope that President Trump will consider doing that. The other way to handle it is for the Senate to bring it up and put a stake through its heart.”

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Keene said the treaty is just an international version of the gun restrictions that many Democrats want to impose here in the U.S.

“They want bans on so-called assault weapons that are, in fact, semi-automatic weapons rather than real assault weapons,” Keene said. “They want limits on magazines. They want all the things that Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton wanted here.”

Despite the wind being at the back of gun-rights advocates, Keene said his side must realize that gun-control supporters are never going to to give up.

“They actually believe that if they snap their fingers and if firearms would disappear, there’d no longer be burglaries. There’d no longer be robberies. We’d all live in peace ,and I assume unicorns would dance across the horizon,” he said. “It’s almost a religious fervor with which they go after firearms ownership.”

And Keene said pro-Second Amendment Americans must be equally relentless in protecting their constitutional rights.

“Like most freedoms, this is a freedom that if you don’t stand up for it and if you aren’t wiling to defend it and if you’re not vigilant, it’s liable to disappear on you,” he said.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/04/trump-move-tremendous-victory-for-americas-gun-owners/#aSlbQZ4cqkE9aMQR.99
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Agreed as to getting the UN out of our knickers. The organization is useless and we spend money as you Know to have people mock us. They are as useless as you know what on a board hog.

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Apr 13, 2017 18:19:00   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
theotts wrote:
The Articles are popularly known as the Bill of Rights, boy.
Benighted indeed. I'm prepared to believe you've never read the Constitution, O! River of Pretense.


Oh, I assure you I have read it.

The [i]Articles,[i] you f*cking moron, are a part of the Constitution itself. There are seven of them. There were 27 Amendments; Can you say Amendment? You will notice, (I hope) both the spelling and pronunciation are different from Article. You see, idiot; there are currently 26 Amendments since the 21st was used to repeal the 18th. Isn't that interesting? The first ten Amendments were ratified simultaneously, and became the Bill of Rights. Not Articles. I believe I heard it mentioned that you claimed to be a PhD? Would that be Piled higher and Deeper, or does it mean Prevaricating hypocritical Dumbass?
Tell me again how you are prepared to believe I have never read the Constitution. I think it fairly obvious which of us has read the document and who hasn't.

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Apr 13, 2017 18:36:52   #
theotts
 
[quote=Loki]Oh, I assure you I have read it.

The [i]Articles,[i] you f*cking moron, are a part of the Constitution itself. There are seven of them. There were 27 Amendments; Can you say Amendment? You will notice, (I hope) both the spelling and pronunciation are different from Article. You see, idiot; there are currently 26 Amendments since the 21st was used to repeal the 18th. Isn't that interesting? The first ten Amendments were ratified simultaneously, and became the Bill of Rights. Not Articles. I believe I heard it mentioned that you claimed to be a PhD? Would that be Piled higher and Deeper, or does it mean Prevaricating hypocritical Dumbass?
Tell me again how you are prepared to believe I have never read the Constitution. I think it fairly obvious which of us has read the document and who hasn't.[/quote]

Look at the document, fool. And there were ten amendments when the Constitution was ratified. Ratified does not mean made into a rat.
You are so stupid, you looked up Bill of Rights instead of looking at the Constitution and the Articles. The articles were adopted to get all thirteen states to sign on.
You're as close as you've ever come to being right. It is obvious who the boob is.

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Apr 13, 2017 23:27:02   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
theotts wrote:
You and I and Clinton know an effort to ban guns wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. That's playing to the audience, not an earnest proposal. When I said "supercedes..." I was assuming ordinary circumstances. If an Idi Amin came to power, "ordinary" would be out the window; but I think it's extraordinarily paranoid to assume that will happen. In any event, if a dictator controlled our armed forces, resistance would at best result in a protracted and bloody guerilla war. Think Syria here.
You and I and Clinton know an effort to ban guns w... (show quote)


Do you honestly think, that given the power and opportunity, the likes of Hillary Clinton, Diane Feinstein, along with every other Democrat on Capitol Hill, would hesitate for a split second to institute an outright and total ban on all lethal weapons going all the way down to the pen-knife in your pocket? No, they're not 'playing to the audience', they have an agenda and it's one they know we will resist with force if they try to impose it. This agenda cannot proceed while there are armed citizens ready to deny them their destruction of our Constitutional way of life. Hence the constant drumbeat of the innocuous phrase 'common-sense gun control'.

What's the difference between this:

I do not possess a crystal ball. I think I can safely assume you do not either. Given that neither of us has any reliable information as to what may happen in the next 10 seconds, is it safe to assume that it would be wise to retain and even augment our abilities to defend ourselves against the possibility of an unforeseen Idi Amin Dada or, since we're naming African tyrants, a Robert Mugabe, seizing the reins of power against our better judgements? Bear in mind, just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they're not 'after' me.

What's the difference between this:
What's the difference between this:...

And this:
And this:...

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Apr 13, 2017 23:44:04   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
theotts wrote:
The Articles are popularly known as the Bill of Rights, boy.
Benighted indeed. I'm prepared to believe you've never read the Constitution, O! River of Pretense.
The Articles are the body of the Constitution. the Bill of Rights are the first ten AMENDMENTS.

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Apr 14, 2017 02:34:55   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
theotts wrote:
Look at the document, fool. And there were ten amendments when the Constitution was ratified. Ratified does not mean made into a rat.
You are so stupid, you looked up Bill of Rights instead of looking at the Constitution and the Articles. The articles were adopted to get all thirteen states to sign on.
You're as close as you've ever come to being right. It is obvious who the boob is.


It seems you are vying with another poster to claim the title of most egregious liar. Are you stoned, or just stupid? There were not ten Amendments when the Constitution was ratified, which occurred on June 21, 1788. There weren't ANY Amendments. Nine states were required for ratification. The thirteenth state, Rhode Island, voted to accept the Constitution on May 29, 1790. The Bill of Rights was not adopted (ratified if you prefer) until December 15th, 1791. That's nearly 3 1/2 years after the ratification, you stupid motherf*cker. The Articles (of which there are seven) are part of the Constitution. The Bill of Rights consists of ten Amendments to those articles, and they were NOT, as you claim, "adopted to get all thirteen states to sign on," as all thirteen had already ratified the Constitution BEFORE the Bill of Rights was added.
Tell us more about your PhD, pendejo. You are one of those arrogant, condescending, holier-than-thou proglodytes who require weekly retraining on how to use the litter box without being covered up by the cats. You have been educated beyond your intelligence, which, judging by the stupidity of your statements, probably took no more than ten minutes to accomplish.

You still haven't answered my query.... Is the PhD you are alleged to have an acronym for Piled higher and Deeper, or Prevaricating hypocritical Dumbass?

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Apr 14, 2017 09:56:26   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
theotts wrote:
The Articles are popularly known as the Bill of Rights, boy.

If brains were made of dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your cap off. The main body of the Constitution is divided into seven 'Articles'. Each 'Article' covers a different government function. To wit:

Article I – The Legislative Branch.
Article II – The Executive Branch.
Article III – The Judicial Branch.
Article IV – The States.
Article V – Amendment.
Article VI – Debts, Supremacy, Oaths.
Article VII – Ratification.

The first ten amendments to the Constitution are referred to as the 'Bill of Rights', boy, and outline specific prohibitions to the Federal government. Here's a link to a handy summary specifically defined for the intellectually challenged among us, such as you:

http://www.dummies.com/education/politics-government/the-7-articles-of-the-us-constitution/

And because it is glaringly obvious that you have never taken the time to peruse the founding document of the United States of America, here's a copy:

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CDOC-110hdoc50/pdf/CDOC-110hdoc50.pdf

I suggest you put it somewhere you can access it at a moment's notice, to help you understand just how ridiculous your ideas of what your government is and is not empowered to do really are. Oh, and read the preface, it will help you to avoid the kind of glaring errors you just committed here.

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Apr 14, 2017 10:29:36   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
If brains were made of dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your cap off. The main body of the Constitution is divided into seven 'Articles'. Each 'Article' covers a different government function. To wit:

Article I – The Legislative Branch.
Article II – The Executive Branch.
Article III – The Judicial Branch.
Article IV – The States.
Article V – Amendment.
Article VI – Debts, Supremacy, Oaths.
Article VII – Ratification.

The first ten amendments to the Constitution are referred to as the 'Bill of Rights', boy, and outline specific prohibitions to the Federal government. Here's a link to a handy summary specifically defined for the intellectually challenged among us, such as you:

http://www.dummies.com/education/politics-government/the-7-articles-of-the-us-constitution/

And because it is glaringly obvious that you have never taken the time to peruse the founding document of the United States of America, here's a copy:

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CDOC-110hdoc50/pdf/CDOC-110hdoc50.pdf

I suggest you put it somewhere you can access it at a moment's notice, to help you understand just how ridiculous your ideas of what your government is and is not empowered to do really are. Oh, and read the preface, it will help you to avoid the kind of glaring errors you just committed here.
If brains were made of dynamite, you wouldn't have... (show quote)


This is another one of our imaginary PhD's, correct? Didn't I read somewhere this nitwit claims to possess one? First he says the Constitution has "parts," rather than Articles, then he says the Bill of Rights was added to convince all thirteen states to sign on, when in fact the last of the thirteen signed on a year and a half before the Bill of Rights was adopted. As I said, he has been educated far beyond his meager intelligence. Somebody had an easy ten minute job to do that.
If he desires a place to put it where he can access it readily, I would suggest his anus, since he already keeps his head there.

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