WTF Is Wrong With Americans? (Page 13): I believe history is based on facts, not fantasy.

Roger71

emarine wrote:

you have entered the realm of...light in facts and heavy on what ifs... good luck...

I believe history is based on facts, not fantasy.

payne1000

Roger71 wrote:

I believe that the majority of historians believe that a single shooter was responsible. I have also read other stories putting forth the multiple shooter theory but they were light in facts and heavy on what ifs. I lean toward the single shooter, but am open minded if other evidence comes out.

Congress conducted a House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1976 after the Zapruder film and Roger Stone's movie "JFK" aroused public anger about the questions which remained unanswered. " the HSCA found that there was a "probable conspiracy," though it was unable to determine the nature of that conspiracy or its other participants (besides Oswald)."
https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/contents.htm
The HSCA investigation made public Operation Northwoods which was a clandestine plan devised by the CIA and U.S. military which would include killing Americans in a false flag operation with similarities to the 9/11 false flag operation. Operation Northwoods would give an excuse to go to invade Cuba. The plan was submitted to JFK for approval. Unlike G. W. Bush, JFK did not approve of killing Americans as a false reason to go to war. He fired CIA director Allen Dulles and relieved General Lyman Lemnitzer as head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Allen Dulles was appointed to the Warren Commission which covered up JFK's murder. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html

payne1000

emarine wrote:

you have entered the realm of...light in facts and heavy on what ifs... good luck...

Someone who is light in facts would not even know the CIA and U.S. military Joint Chiefs of Staff had submitted a plan to attack and kill Americans in order to blame Cuba and justify war with Cuba.
Can you think of a more recent plan which killed 3,000 Americans in order to go to war with Iraq?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html

payne1000

Roger71 wrote:

I believe history is based on facts, not fantasy.

The fact is, the Zapruder film shows JFK's head being thrown violently backward by the force of the bullet. Oswald was located to the rear of the car in which JFK was riding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU83R7rpXQY

Roger71

payne1000 wrote:

Congress conducted a i House Select Committee on ... (show quote)

The facts could be construed as a conspiracy with Cuba as well as the Mafia. And Oliver Stone made "JFK"

I am sure there have been many proposed operations in the past. I would not take a leap of faith to tie them to a historical event.

Roger71

payne1000 wrote:

The fact is, the Zapruder film shows JFK's head being thrown violently backward by the force of the bullet. Oswald was located to the rear of the car in which JFK was riding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU83R7rpXQY

Zapruder's film shows Kennedy's skull and brain matter moving toward the front of the car, indicating an impact from behind. The head snap backwards would have been a motion after the initial movement forward. This has been played out ad nasaum by experts for years. I cannot make s leap of faith to your conclusion because the facts do not support it. You are apparently predisposed to your opinion based on personal biases.

payne1000

Roger71 wrote:

Zapruder's film shows Kennedy's skull and brain matter moving toward the front of the car, indicating an impact from behind. The head snap backwards would have been a motion after the initial movement forward. This has been played out ad nasaum by experts for years. I cannot make s leap of faith to your conclusion because the facts do not support it. You are apparently predisposed to your opinion based on personal biases.

It's becoming apparent you're another of the many cover-up shills on this forum.
I assume you, like the others, refuse to identify yourself?

emarine

payne1000 wrote:

It's becoming apparent you're another of the many cover-up shills on this forum.
I assume you, like the others, refuse to identify yourself?

Yep... that's the problem larry...we are all anonymous shills... It doesn't seem a bit strange to you?...

Roger71

payne1000 wrote:

It's becoming apparent you're another of the many cover-up shills on this forum.
I assume you, like the others, refuse to identify yourself?

So if you have no rebuttal, you then accuse me of being a coverup shill? (Whatever that is). I thought this was a debate.

My name is Roger, by the way.

payne1000

Roger71 wrote:

So if you have no rebuttal, you then accuse me of being a coverup shill? (Whatever that is). I thought this was a debate.

My name is Roger, by the way.

There was no initial forward movement of JFK's head.
If you're going to lie as blatantly as that, no intelligent debate is possible.
My name is Larry Payne. What is your full name, Roger?

payne1000

emarine wrote:

Yep... that's the problem larry...we are all anonymous shills... It doesn't seem a bit strange to you?...

It's believable when you know that Israel has an army of shills working to cover up Zionist atrocities.

Roger71

payne1000 wrote:

There was no initial forward movement of JFK's head.
If you're going to lie as blatantly as that, no intelligent debate is possible.
My name is Larry Payne. What is your full name, Roger?

You assume things based on bias, rather than facts and science. This film is not very clear, being 8mm. To call me a liar because I don't see things as you do is really rude. I have had a chance to review your older posts and can now see your motives. Your zeal at trying to get names is like a phishing scam on the internet and I see what you do when you get them. Either you or your "friends" dig up addresses and Facebook photos in order to attack and humiliate your opponents. I'll not fall for your trap and will leave here with a clear knowledge as you how dangerous you are. Oh, and I am not Jewish, by the way.

payne1000

Roger71 wrote:

You assume things based on bias, rather than facts... (show quote)

I have posted my Facebook page and my photo on this forum. So anyone wishing to use that to attack me is free to do so.
Amadjuster is only on this forum to attack me so he deserves everything he gets from me.
You say I am dangerous. I'm 77 years old. How dangerous can I be. Are you afraid of a 77 year old man?

emarine

payne1000 wrote:

I have posted my Facebook page and my photo on this forum. So anyone wishing to use that to attack me is free to do so.
Amadjuster is only on this forum to attack me so he deserves everything he gets from me.
You say I am dangerous. I'm 77 years old. How dangerous can I be. Are you afraid of a 77 year old man?

The pen Is mightier than the sword putz... even old Neo Nazi propagandists are dangerous ...

payne1000

emarine wrote:

The pen Is mightier than the sword putz... even old Neo Nazi propagandists are dangerous ...

The danger you see in me is the truth I post.
Truth is mightier than the sword.
Truth is exponentially stronger than lies posted by anonymous Zionist shills.