rebob14

You utopianists need to go to the rubber room. If she can make even a small improvement in the union thug administered socialist nightmare that education has become, it will be worth it.

Rivers

Bought herself a position? Prove it moron! Come on, put up, or STFU!

Morgan

If you want to talk about a slush fund, than we can open another post on the military contractors.

Staying on topic there is not a thing wrong with Common Core, that's all a bogus repertoire from the collective right against the DOE. In fact the schools have plenty of girth to implement their their teaching strategics, common core is not the problem, that it is only stating a minimum standard. The schools, public and private, can dictate the best methods to use in each. It is completely discretionary to the state school board, and if people found their school was not doing well they need to get off their butt and go protest, and make a change. People don't bother. Movers and grovers are in the minority.

Being on a school board of a private school board that went charter and used common core during both, while my children went to the school and tested in the 97% in national testing, I believe my opinion has some merit on it's not common core that is the problem, but more to the indoctrination of each individual school, that certainly has the ability to improve and change their policy.

I could care less how much money she has and if she also feels the need to poop on a golden thrown, what I can't abide is anyone on "any side" are people who attempt to influence our authenticity in our governing process and not to have it corrupted with their dirty money and unprincipled self interest. This speaks loudly of the stature of character and their objective ability to remain neutral while serving the people and not their own agenda to the reasoning on why they bought their position.

I also don't believe in school vouchers, why should our tax dollars support a private school, or have a lottery for a poor little child who gets to go to the head of the class and goes to the nice school, leaving the rest behind.????

No reason to cut and paste her bio. I can do that if I wanted that's not what its about...clearly

Morgan

OH GEE MAKE ME grow up

Morgan

More socialist brain washed mantra, nothing new here including the lack of principle I'm witnessing here, you people have no moral compass, if the person is from your party he can do no wrong, and accuse liberals of the very thing you do.

What I posted is a bipartisan ethical issue, but I see it is not objectively viewed that way because you will back your party affiliate NO MATTER WHAT...apparently there is no bottom line.

If a person paid for his position I would not support him/her, but this is why I am not party affiliated, no strings to pull there.

Loki Loc: Georgia

When the Department of Education was created in 1979, by Jimmuh Cahtuh, the US educational system was the envy of the world. It is now the laughingstock. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, as we have been doing with the D of Ed, and expecting different results. We used to be in the top five in all categories of math, science, and technological studies, now we are in 15th to 20th place or worse. We graduate functional illiterates who have no understanding of basic math and science, or grammar, or punctuation and spelling. They can't even make change without a calculator to think for them. They are hopeless in world geography. They have no concept of civics, how our government works, how businesses work, or how much of anything other than their favorite video games work.
I have read, and I concur, that the average high school senior today graduates with what would have been considered a very mediocre 7th grade education in the early seventies.

Morgan

As I've stated the problems you speak of should be addressed per school, district and state, and not addressed with the federal government. The government has a minimal standard for schools in order for them to receive federal funding...for the most part that's about it. I agree with you on your concerns.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

The DOE being nothing more than a slush fund is on topic and my opinion..Sorry you see it otherwise...

Likewise common core is terrible and is a dumb down to our children.. Don't know what your standard is to its value but only 40% of tearchers nationwide think it's good, while 49% of parents think it's manageable...
CNSNews.com) – Less than half of Americans (49 percent) and only 40 percent of teachers now say they support Common Core State Standards (CCSS).

Public support has dropped 16 percent since 2013, when 65 percent of Americans were in favor of the Common Core standards, according to the ninth annual Education Next poll released Tuesday.

But the greatest change in opinion has been among teachers.

In 2013, 76 percent of teachers said they were in favor of the Common Core. In the new survey, only 40 percent say the favor Common Core--representing a 36-point drop in two years.
Among teachers and parents, the two groups most directly impacted by CCSS, “respondents who believe the standards have had a negative effect on schools (51%) exceed those who think they have had a positive effect (28%),” researchers noted.
Four states – Alaska, Nebraska, Texas and Virginia – never adopted the Common Core in the first place.
Four other states – Indiana, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and South Carolina – initially adopted the standards, but then later rescinded them. Mississippi and Tennessee have taken steps to do so as well.
Minnesota adopted the Common Core English language arts standards in 2010, but not the mathematics standards.
Proponents claim that standardizing school curriculums across the U.S. will raise student achievement and better prepare future American workers for the rigorous competition they will face in a global economy.
But Common Core has been harshly criticized for eliminating poetry and classic literature, requiring school children to solve unnecessarily complicated math problems, and for not taking young children’s developmental stages into account by asking first graders to do things like “compose and decompose plane and solid figures”.
During the 2014-15 school year, tens of thousands of students opted out of the new standardized tests that align with Common Core. Some school districts reported participation rates of less than 50 percent, which could jeopardize their portion of the program’s $4 billion in federal funding. The blackmail tactic!!

We really don't need stats proving it's garbage we can see it in our children lack of Education and retention.. Or when headed off to college the reassessment and additional basic courses just to bring them up to par...

Relative to DeVos bio it was provided showing her affiliation and involvement with what she supports and as I said where she puts her money instead of just her mouth...She isn't buying her position, Trump happens to dislike coombs core as well as believing the school system as it is is a total injustice to learning, period.. He chose someone who has his same sentiments...


If schools have plenty of girth in implementing common core than what you're saying is the teachers aren't teaching or the school is not doing something they should be doing...Parents can bitch and if you sat on the board then you know how little that concern is to the system itself...

Likewise this may all be moot if the bill to shut down the DOE goes through, which hopefully will given the sentiments of President Trump... DeVos will not like it but Ohhh welll...

Sons of Liberty Loc: look behind you!

I never discussed any of it with them, but my dad said two of them retired once they got their time in because of common core. I do know that none of them are hurting, if you know what I mean.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Loki, I absolutely concur with your accessment and know first hand what you say.. My sisters son was struggling in math.. Multiple meetings with teacher, finally resulted in being "allowed to stay after school for a one hr tutoring session" once a week.. After months of these meeting with teachers and the guidance counselor, my sister put Jarred in Sylvans, a highly acclaimed learning/tutoring school for a 2 hr workshop setting two times a week after he got out of school.. Also to the tune of 5k!! His grades enhanced that first month and more importantly he began to Excell in math..

I have a sister in law leaving the field because teaching and academics have gone by the wayside and children are coming out illiterate rather than educated.. Funding budgets cut so drastically they can't even get the supplies needed to teach with.. Head count more important than academics to include a lenient expulsion policy for the trouble makers because every child in school means higher funding..

Our children have been stripped of the true History or Social Studies we got when in school and the BS progressivism is also very real in our schools!! Very real!! Is it no wonder they go into college with the expectation that they are owed everything and need crying rooms just to cope anymore.. What hogwash that is..

Anyway there is now a bill going forward to end the wasted DOE effective 12/31/2018... One I support as well..

Morgan

This may be true, but not the fault of the Federal government, if your looking to fix the problem with them, the problem will never be fixed.

Part of the problem today is that mothers are maxed out and exhausted so there is a collateral damage to the children. Teachers (many) don't stay after school at all to give out extra help.

Here's another problem, when my son went to a public school and was in the 6th grade, he had a 95% average (an A) in his school, in English and Math, as a parent you would assume all is good. He than takes his end of year national test and his average barely scraped by with a B? The fault IMO was the school was not up to the national level. Not the fault of the government.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Good Morning, Liberty....
Being retired with 90% of their income is a nice living.. Glad for them I am!!

It seems Common Core is not well received by any and with due cause.. Just as Loki also points out its the most slip shot, egregious decision, with the victim being the uneducated children now being produced... And I do not care what any one says the standards were brought down to justify passage of the minorities that could not handle the original basic assessment used... Now we see its domino effect of our children who can not read, write, or even have basic cognitive skills .....No wonder BO wanted leniency in allowing foreign students coming in for Math and Science.... Something else I asked~~ why!~~ why not devote to our children those special interest wants and provide better education to them??

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Yet the schools funding allowance is measured by supposed achievement and common core was forced upon the schools or be in jeapody of loosing funding, right??

If the fault was your son's school was not up to the national average how were they allowed funding, if that requirement by government was a prerequisite to funding itself?? Who dropped the ball, at the expense of your son and all others attending?? ??

Morgan

Not true at all Parents have a Tremendous impact, but again that can be very specific to each individual are.

This is the same type of argument as when people don't have a good insurance plan and blame Obamacare, one has nothing to do with the other. Schools have a wide discretion on what and how to teach...period. Your picking a fight with the wrong people, if you really want to see changes take place. Getting rid of Federal funding will only hurt schools financially, most which are already struggling, to the point where parents and teachers are paying more and more, unlike our parents.

It is my understanding that the right would like to eventually privatize all education, as if that will improve education, when the outcome would be the complete opposite and only perpetuate the poorer classes and uneducated people, but maybe that is their intention...the more pliable the better to manipulate and control.

Morgan

You're not getting this are you...the school dropped the ball that is quite obvious, if my son was coming home with A's. The schools getting their funding by minimums, not high achievements. Imagine if there were no minimum standard.

Supposed achievement? A minimum standard that is all, don't you think they should at the very least abide by a minimum standard? geeeez? When you say common core "forced upon them" only tells me you don't know what you're talking about and are objecting to something you know nothing of, simply due to your anti government rhetoric, you don't acknowledging the good that is derived from our government, you know... the USA... the country you supposedly love. Why don't you have a little faith in your own government and not see it as the dark empire.

If a school is not doing their job and educating their students to a minimum, tell me why should the federal government reward them with funding???