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Feb 2, 2017 12:39:03   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
PeterS wrote:
As a liberal I give very little thought to Muslims and if they are flooding into our country who is letting them in?

And just what is the difference between a Christian and a Muslim? Your religion doesn't accept gays and the only reason you tolerate them now is because our secular government forces you to. There is nothing in our Western Civilization that is due to Christianity and if not for liberalism forcing the concept of secularism into government you conservatives would be out there chopping of the heads of anyone who thought differently than you. Hell, you guys are chomping at the bits to do it now and any excuse I wouldn't be surprised to see you come out shooting--if not chopping.

The hate held in a Christians heart is no different that the hate held in a Muslims heart. Stop kidding yourself. The only thing separating you from them is the very shaky hold to secularism--one that Christians are trying to let go of as we speak...
As a liberal I give very little thought to Muslims... (show quote)


Muslims don't accept gays either. Christians don't care if you're a Christian or not and never chop off your head because you refuse to become one. Muslims are the one rule tribe. Their way or no way....making average citizens in any country unsafe. Most countries are beginning to send the Muslims back to the sand because of all the trouble they're causing. It'll be good if it happens here as well. We need peace!

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Feb 2, 2017 12:51:38   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
EL wrote:
Muslims don't accept gays either. Christians don't care if you're a Christian or not and never chop off your head because you refuse to become one. Muslims are the one rule tribe. Their way or no way....making average citizens in any country unsafe. Most countries are beginning to send the Muslims back to the sand because of all the trouble they're causing. It'll be good if it happens here as well. We need peace!


I would be inclined to think that Pete would be better off in the long run in preferring Christianity over Muslims but then again with liberals have the liberalism disorder maybe not !

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Feb 2, 2017 13:40:09   #
mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
I'm trying to see this from your point of view but I just can't get my head that far up my ass. Sorry.



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Feb 2, 2017 15:28:17   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
confused one wrote:
You stated that, "There is nothing in our Western Civilization that is due to Christianity." I suggest that the tolerance exhibited by people in the Western World towards those living among us with radically different ideas is due to Christianity. Granted, this process of general acceptance that we see today has been evolutionary. For instance, it's uncommon to see heretics burned at the stake these days. Some other examples are that most sodomy laws have been repealed, school segregation is outlawed and gay marriage is becoming more common.
So what accounts for the acceptance of these social evolutionary changes? Could it be the realization that love and acceptance is stronger than hate and intolerance. Those values are Christian in nature. I, sir, am no Christian nor do I subscribe to any organized religion. I just recognize the importance religion has played in our march to perfection.
I say to you that allowing people who live in the 7th century to reside with us will disrupt the gains we have made.
You stated that, "There is nothing in our We... (show quote)


I count it no gain that abortion and the acceptance of homosexuality as normal, natural and healthy is a march to perfection but rather a diminishing of our humanity, morals and values. If calling behavior that civilization has long declared perverted and moral relativism is a virtue, and these behaviors a measure of evolution, then we will surely be swinging in the trees once again.

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Feb 2, 2017 15:48:24   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
padremike wrote:
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Subject: THE CRUSADES HAVE FINALLY STARTED

I hope this is all true. Press on Donald!

The Crusades have finally started. They're getting to be known - and rejected. The Crusades have finally started as predicted.

The first countries to ban Islam:

See how the world is acting fast on the threat posed by Islam and its barbaric Sharia Law.

Japan has always refused to allow Muslims to live permanently in their country and Muslims cannot own any real estate or any type of business, and all worship of Islam is banned. Any Muslim tourist caught spreading the word of Islam will be deported immediately, including all family members.

Cuba rejected plans for its first mosque.

The African nation of Angola and several other nations have officially banned Islam.

Record number of Muslims (over 2,000) deported from Norway as a way of fighting crime. Since these Muslim criminals have been deported, crime has dropped by a staggering 72%. Prison Officials are reporting that nearly half of their jail cells are now vacant. Courtrooms are nearly empty, police are now free to attend to other matters, mainly traffic offenses to keep their roads and highways safe, and assisting the public in as many ways as they can.

In Germany alone in the last year there were 81 violent attacks targeting mosques.

Austrian police arrested 13 men targeting suspected jihad recruiters.

A Chinese court sent 22 Muslim Imams to jail for 16 to 20 years for spreading Islam hatred and have executed eighteen jihadists; China campaigns against Separatism (disallowing Islamist to have their own separate state). Muslim prayers are banned in government buildings and schools in Xinjiang (Western China). Hundreds of Muslim families prepared to leave China for their own safety and return back to their own Middle Eastern countries.

Muslim refugees are beginning to realize that they are not welcome in Christian countries because of their violent ways and the continuing Wars in Syria and Iraq whipped up by the hideous ISIS who are murdering young children and using mothers and daughters as sex slaves.

British Home Secretary prepares to introduce 'Anti-social Behavior Order' for extremists and strip dual nationals of their Citizenship. Deportation laws also being prepared.

The Czech Republic blatantly refuses Islam in their country, regarding it as evil.

Alabama - A new controversial amendment that will ban the recognition of "foreign laws which would include Sharia law".

16 other States have all Introduced Legislation to Ban Sharia Law.

North Carolina bans Islamic "Sharia Law" in the State, regarding it now as a criminal offense.

The Polish Defense League issues a warning to Muslims.

Many Muslims in Northern Ireland have announced plans to leave the country to avoid anti-Islamic violence by Irish locals. The announcement comes after an attack on groups of Muslims in the city of Belfast. Groups of Irish locals went berserk and bashed teenage Muslim gangs who were referring to young Irish girls as sluts and should be all gang raped, according to Islam and ''Sharia Law." Even hospital staff were reluctant to treat the battered Muslim patients; the majority were given the Band-Aid treatment and sent home with staff muttering ''Good Riddance''.

Dutch MP's call for removal of all mosques in the Netherlands. One Member of the Dutch Parliament said: "We want to clean Netherlands of Islam."

Dutch MP Machiel De Graaf spoke on behalf of the Party for Freedom when he said, "All mosques in the Netherlands should be shut down. Without Islam, the Netherlands would be a wonderful safe country to live in, as it was before the arrival of Muslim refugees''.
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It would appear that islam is pushing toward an extinction level event. The sign at the crossroad reads:
< them/us > us.

I know which path I'll take.

How about y'all?

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Feb 2, 2017 18:54:00   #
confused one
 
padremike wrote:
I count it no gain that abortion and the acceptance of homosexuality as normal, natural and healthy is a march to perfection but rather a diminishing of our humanity, morals and values. If calling behavior that civilization has long declared perverted and moral relativism is a virtue, and these behaviors a measure of evolution, then we will surely be swinging in the trees once again.


It's tolerance rather than acceptance, Padre. It's the realization that those acts have existed and will always exist. We have long ago given up the idea that is it possible to legislate these acts out of existence. Consider the anti sodomy laws and, more recently, the Government's dying effort to keep marijuana outlawed. These are examples of society's newly found tolerance rather than acceptance.
The thing that makes Islam so incompatible with our way of living is its inflexibility. I view most liberals as people who have been taken in by the media created idea that "moderate" Islamist exist. I see those "moderates" as those patiently biding their time. They spread like a form of cancer that gives little indication or warning to the host body until it's far too late.

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Feb 2, 2017 20:10:45   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
confused one wrote:
It's tolerance rather than acceptance, Padre. It's the realization that those acts have existed and will always exist. We have long ago given up the idea that is it possible to legislate these acts out of existence. Consider the anti sodomy laws and, more recently, the Government's dying effort to keep marijuana outlawed. These are examples of society's newly found tolerance rather than acceptance.
The thing that makes Islam so incompatible with our way of living is its inflexibility. I view most liberals as people who have been taken in by the media created idea that "moderate" Islamist exist. I see those "moderates" as those patiently biding their time. They spread like a form of cancer that gives little indication or warning to the host body until it's far too late.
It's tolerance rather than acceptance, Padre. It's... (show quote)


All these liberal clones do not realize that alls these 'moderate ' Muslims have is time.

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Feb 2, 2017 20:31:04   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
confused one wrote:
It's tolerance rather than acceptance, Padre. It's the realization that those acts have existed and will always exist. We have long ago given up the idea that is it possible to legislate these acts out of existence. Consider the anti sodomy laws and, more recently, the Government's dying effort to keep marijuana outlawed. These are examples of society's newly found tolerance rather than acceptance.
The thing that makes Islam so incompatible with our way of living is its inflexibility. I view most liberals as people who have been taken in by the media created idea that "moderate" Islamist exist. I see those "moderates" as those patiently biding their time. They spread like a form of cancer that gives little indication or warning to the host body until it's far too late.
It's tolerance rather than acceptance, Padre. It's... (show quote)


Interesting that you do not see tolerance and acceptance as synonymous. Murder has always existed but are we tolerant of it? Illegal drug usage of opioids alone kill 25,000 Americans every year. We tolerate and accept those deaths. Other illegal drugs of every type we tolerate and accept and I have no idea of the lives that are lost or destroyed but the loss of those lives and the society is conditioned to tolerate and accepted it. The premeditated murder of children is not only tolerated and accepted but war would break out in our streets if the right of a woman to premeditated the murder her child was ever found again to be unconstitutional. Which, of course, it always was. Thus far somewhere around 85 million unborn children have been flushed into the sewer system or taken to a medical waste furnace. The sodomy laws have been abolished and sodomy is now accepted and tolerated, even applauded. So tell me something, we worry about Islamic "cancer" but we are rotting with a cancer that started at our feet and is already up to our neck and many tolerate and accept this sickness and soon we will not resist anything yet many continue to call it virtuous. Many tolerate and accept evil and call it virtue. You may, but I'm not that stupid and there are millions just like me. Can you tolerate and accept that? The final battle between good and evil was won on a Cross over 2000 years ago. Evil lost forever! All that is left is the freedom to choose Who/What you serve.

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Feb 2, 2017 20:48:12   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
One problem with liberals is the fact that Common Sense is a flower that does not grow in everyone's garden !

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Feb 2, 2017 21:12:33   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
4430 wrote:
One problem with liberals is the fact that Common Sense is a flower that does not grow in everyone's garden !


It is indeed a rare flower. Wisdom and common sense are synonymous but wisdom is often confused with intellect. Solomon had wisdom as shown in the dividing a child in two. The true mother would give up her child rather than having it killed. Solomon's great wisdom worked through the problem. Many of the progressive elites are highly educated but lack basic common sense. Some if the stupidest things you will ever hear come out of the mouth of a PhD. Wisdom is also a characteristic of the innate ability to perform a craft such as a carpenter, plumber, etc. I share this information just in case your mother's never told you these things.

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Feb 2, 2017 21:23:25   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
padremike wrote:
It is indeed a rare flower. Wisdom and common sense are synonymous but wisdom is often confused with intellect. Solomon had wisdom as shown in the dividing a child in two. The true mother would give up her child rather than having it killed. Solomon's great wisdom worked through the problem. Many of the progressive elites are highly educated but lack basic common sense. Some if the stupidest things you will ever hear come out of the mouth of a PhD. Wisdom is also a characteristic of the innate ability to perform a craft such as a carpenter, plumber, etc. I share this information just in case your mother's never told you these things.
It is indeed a rare flower. Wisdom and common sen... (show quote)


That’s the truth.

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Feb 3, 2017 01:23:49   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
confused one wrote:
Lecture 1:

I admit that I don't understand you but maybe you can take the time to enlighten me by writing a reply. I thank those who will.
Do you ever consider that our broad lifestyle choices are particularly offensive to Muslims flooding into the US?
Then, of course, there are the millions of Muslims who have long lived among us who dream about and pray for the day when
they'll be able to correct all of what they deem offense. Their holy book offers a prescription for doing just that. Oh, and with no mercy.
Things Americans see and do everyday convince them that we are infidels indeed.

To name a few:
Showing some leg in a mini skirt.
A Gay couple kissing in public or just holding hands.
Professing to be a Christian
Worse, a Jew.
Professing to be an atheist.
Gay marriage.
Abortion.
Watching or reading porn.
Newspaper articles that tell the truth about the long range goals of Islam.

All of what I've said so far is pretty well known. So here's my twist.
There is a site on the web that contains videos of that "prescription"
mentioned above. It's what these people do to each other every single day.
They murder their own Muslim brothers and sisters over a difference of
opinion of what some references in their holy book actually mean. Sometimes,
they take action against persons from Western Civilization by blowing us up, beheading,
stabbing and shooting us to death. So far, it's just to let us know that they're still thinking of us.
Before you reply, I suggest that you go to the site YNC. Click on the "Murder" videos and
watch some of the hundreds of posted videos of these folks in action.

Oh, I agree with those who protest the temporary ban on people from some Muslim nations.
That ban should be permanent. I call it self defense. You can't make peace with people who
want to murder you or subjugate you.
Lecture 1: br br I admit that I don't understand ... (show quote)


I'm going to guess that your request for response is only rhetorical, but I'm going to respond anyway and I'm not going to answer for all the liberals out there but I will answer for myself.

To answer your first question... Yes. I have considered the offenses some Muslims take to the "broad" lifestyle that some Americans have. I have also considered the same offense taken by some Christians. In my direct experience I have only been told about the intolerance among Muslims. It's not that I don't know any Muslims because I do. But I never hear them expressing intolerance for "broad" lifestyles. But I DO hear it coming from Christians on a daily basis and it's the Christians, not the Muslims that I see trying to write laws to bridle these lifestyles.

This might offend you but I'm just being honest... From my perspective, Christians and Muslims are pretty much the same. I can think of one Christian that I've known almost all my life that is offended by seven of the nine items on your list.

YNC looks like a sleaze-barn. I looked at it long enough to see what it's about then left, cleared my cache and ran a virus scanner. Look, I get it... I've been dealing with this anti-Muslim crap for years. Apparently, I irritate conservatives when I don't join in their freak-out. I've been lectured more than enough times, I've been given books and CD's on how horrible the Muslims are. It seems so important to some people that I be convinced. Look, I KNOW that there are some extreme groups in the Muslim world and what they do *is* horrible... I don't need to be convinced. But I also know that they're not all like that. There have been horrible extremists in the Christian world too, such as the Lord's Resistance Army in Africa, a Christian terrorist group that communicates with carnage.

Finally, let me explain what this post looks like a liberal. It's looks like fear and ignorance. Not very attractive.

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Feb 3, 2017 01:28:06   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
4430 wrote:
One problem with liberals is the fact that Common Sense is a flower that does not grow in everyone's garden !

LOL - That's for sure. If common sense grew in everyone's garden we wouldn't have Republicans.

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Feb 3, 2017 02:03:52   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
padremike wrote:
you went and did it. You just had to do it didn't you? You opened your mouth and now everyone knows you're a fool.


Re-proving the Peter Principle once more. Viva redundancy!

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Feb 3, 2017 02:20:52   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
padremike wrote:
Interesting that you do not see tolerance and acceptance as synonymous. Murder has always existed but are we tolerant of it? Illegal drug usage of opioids alone kill 25,000 Americans every year. We tolerate and accept those deaths. Other illegal drugs of every type we tolerate and accept and I have no idea of the lives that are lost or destroyed but the loss of those lives and the society is conditioned to tolerate and accepted it. The premeditated murder of children is not only tolerated and accepted but war would break out in our streets if the right of a woman to premeditated the murder her child was ever found again to be unconstitutional. Which, of course, it always was. Thus far somewhere around 85 million unborn children have been flushed into the sewer system or taken to a medical waste furnace. The sodomy laws have been abolished and sodomy is now accepted and tolerated, even applauded. So tell me something, we worry about Islamic "cancer" but we are rotting with a cancer that started at our feet and is already up to our neck and many tolerate and accept this sickness and soon we will not resist anything yet many continue to call it virtuous. Many tolerate and accept evil and call it virtue. You may, but I'm not that stupid and there are millions just like me. Can you tolerate and accept that? The final battle between good and evil was won on a Cross over 2000 years ago. Evil lost forever! All that is left is the freedom to choose Who/What you serve.
Interesting that you do not see tolerance and acce... (show quote)


The left side of America is tolerant of these evils. The right is not.

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