Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

How many applications for drivers' license is processed by one clerk in one day, say in San Diego, Ca? Perhaps 100? Five days a week? By the end of the year..... how many has that clerk processed? And say that 20 percent are not processed correctly... in 50 states in the large cities? How many errors in the database would that render? Now in 4 years... how many mistakes? Do the math.... and that is saying there is only one clerk in each state who makes a mistake..... I will spare you.... 5,200,000 errors due to a lack of sleep, boredom, divided attention, long hours, thinking of their significant other.... and by the way, that error rate is considered acceptable by most states. Now add into this mixture one clerk who can be bribed.... how many illegals can be processed? I provided you with links... go back and look at them. The problem is worse than you think. Also, how often do you think DMV purges their database for the dead? Never. How often do they contact doctors to ensure there are no mental impairment. Never. So... do you still think the DMV is the best database for voting registration?

Ricko Loc: Florida

Peter S-would that be similar to the system used by Comey to scan 650,000 Hillary emails in a matter of days ? He then proclaimed that nothing untoward had been found which was totally acceptable to you left wingers. Phillip's proclamation is just as valid as is Comeys. Computers can do wonders when checking people's names against a data base. Your comments are more applicable to Comey than to Phillips. Good Luck America !!!

Ricko Loc: Florida

Pennylynn-read where there are 4 million dead people on the voter rolls. Cannot vouch for the accuracy of the article but it would not be surprising to learn that it is factual. Good Luck America !!!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Why didn't they believe hillary??
Too much proof!!!

Why don't you question your people's claim now??? Your Podesta was/ is a real gem there, Peter and your Debbie Wasserman another, etcetcetc..

Let's just bring it and find out ~~

We need to if we ever expect to have verified answers that prove it one way or the other...

But I mean tangible verified votes to include absentee ballots that just get tossed aside when it's officially been declared.....

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

The PEW Center has some interesting statistics:

Approximately 24 million—one of every eight—voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.
More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.
Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.
Meanwhile, researchers estimate at least 51 million eligible U.S. citizens are unregistered, or more than 24 percent of
the eligible population.

The information is dated, but nothing has been done so I imagine the problem is worse now. They did not even look at illegals.... imagine if they did!

http://www.pewtrusts.org/~/media/legacy/uploadedfiles/pcs_assets/2012/pewupgradingvoterregistrationpdf.pdf

PeterS

A 20% error rate is acceptable in most states? Your off your rocker PL. If the error rate was that high we would have the head of every data entry clerk in the nation on a pike--and what does errors by data entry clerks have to do with illegal immigrants voting--is there a connection or is this just a red herring you want me to chase for you? And yes, I read your links--California passed DL's for illegal immigrants in 2013 so your bribed clerks is no longer an issue (and you never did show that anyone who received an ID illegally voted but since that is moot now I'll let it go), with truethevote.org not a single source of documentation for any of their accusations was given--how did they come to their conclusions only they know and they weren't sharing their methodology. Your fraudulent DL ring in NY doesn't connect to illegal immigrants voting--I assume that's the assumption you are making but if that is true you still aren't approaching the 3 million fraudulent votes that are claimed.

As such, the problem exists more in conservative imaginations than any place else and as your Nevada example stated--a state ID would do nothing alter those who would be able to vote fraudulently. So other than flapping your gums what are you guys proposing? Since the states clearly can't implement, in your conservative opinion, a fraud free election should we scrap the states role and go to a national registry? We can do that by having it run through the SS administration with proof of residency and a valid birth certificate in order to register. Or should the federal government just regulate how the states are to conduct voter registration? Whatever method we use we have to have a common methodology for all states to follow otherwise it will be the second verse of what we have now--a system that you guys seem to be most unhappy with.

So I don't know what to tell you Pennylynn other than stop relying on fake news sites for the information you rely on. That would help but if you really want a change, you are going to need a real plan that involves more than a state ID that would do nothing to alter the problem at hand...

PeterS

You lost me here Linda. What did Hillary say that I was suppose to believe? And what claim are "my" people making? I thought the issue was Trumps statement that three million illegals voted as did four million dead people. From what I can tell the origin for this is truevote.org and and they didn't give a single source nor the mythology they used for determining how they found the errors. For that reason, one can only conclude that this is just another fake news story put out by the right to try to affirm what they already believe. Well you guys seem to believe it but I would prefer some actual facts to back up the allegations. And if you want me to respond to Hillary or my people you have to be a little more specific as I have no clue what you mean...

PeterS

"They did not look at illegals, imagine if they did?" Isn't the problem that we are using our imaginations instead of actual facts? How is it, when the topic is voter fraud you are throwing out a report on errors in the system that most likely are inconsequential. From what I saw of the report it didn't even show that the errors had any impact on integrity of the votes. I mean, it only matters that someone is double entered after moving if they go back and vote in their old precinct and so long as dead people remain dead it doesn't matter if they haven't been purged from the voter rolls.

It isn't hard to find things to panic about Pennylynn but if they haven't been shown to actually impact the system why are we fixating on problems that may or may not exist. That's a bit too OCD for me and life is too short to fixate on problems that may or may not exist. If you have an actual solution I am all ears but if its only to placate conservative paranoia I can't help you nor do I think you will ever find the type of support you will need to make an actual change...

PeterS

With Comey there would be a mythology that he used. With Phillips there isn't. If you think no mythology is more applicable then America is in much more need then luck...

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

Wouldn't Matter
If Not A Single Vote Were Cast For Trump In California
California Has 55 Electoral Votes
No More, No Less
The Same Thing With Any Other State

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

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Wrong, there is no verification . If not in the california DMV system. They simply send you a registration in the mail, filled out with whatever info you supplied online. ...to sign. No california drivers license required, no california address required, out of state mailing address is acceptable. No ss#required, they do ask for the last four of your ss# if you do not have a california drivers license, however Wil issue a registration without it.
I could have filled out a dozen online registration and would have received a dozen ballots.

private

The left has done (successfully so far) everything in their power to combat voter ID laws. Now why is that? What is their true objection. You can leave out protecting the poor minorities which is their sole argument because they haven't done anything to help them while exploiting them to their fullest potential. Why encourage in spite of our laws anyone who can find a way, and 10's of 1000's who had their way paid to enter the US illegally? Why do youngsters have to prove their identity for so many very small reasons but not for the right to participate in one of our most cherished institutions? There is no reason other than those that benefit the left.

Is there voter fraud? Of course there is. I'll even go as far as to say it occurs on the left and right. But then why is it only conservatives who encourage voter ID? Because they have nothing to lose!!

erniebanks14

How do you figure if it was organized by the DNC she would win? All that means is if it's true that 3 million illegals voted then she would have also lost the popular vote. And what makes you think that illegals couldn't have voted? Many of them have licenses so why couldn't they vote? Plus since ID is NOT needed what would stop them? Also, Obozo made the announcement before the election for them to go out and vote. I absolutely believe that AT LEAST 3 million voted and according to our Constitution a voter must be a citizen. So every damn one of those votes are illegal just like they are!

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

We do know from previous elections how many +/- illegals voted. We know census reports at best report between 40-50% of the actual illegals in America. We know that a min of 7.5 % vote which is in reality of 40-50% based on illegals responses to admitted voting, given an actual % of 15% .
25 million illegals or +/- 4 million votes nationwide.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

It is very easy to prove leftist nationwide organized voter fraud in the millions.
The right has only been proven of small individual offenses of voter fraudm