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Oct 19, 2016 17:35:17   #
boofhead
 
payne1000 wrote:
The contrails in the earlier years disappeared quickly as might be expected of a gas which is mostly steam.
How do you explain Brennan talking about the need for Strategic Aerosol injections?
How will the SAI chemtrails Brennan describes differ in appearance from what we are seeing now?


There have been many attempts to modify the climate at least locally by dropping chemicals into the air in order to cause cloud to form, or make rain and no doubt this will continue. But it is not Chemtrails. Chemtrails are just misidentified Contrails, a totally natural occurrence. One of the attempts to modify climate is to cause the formation of cloud by adding water to the upper atmosphere. It would be horrendously expensive and impractical although it might work in some limited circumstances and it might have the opposite effect to what was attempted. Adding Silver Iodide to the air was used in the past to promote the formation of water droplets that in turn could make it rain. This does work if the atmosphere is in just the right condition (almost ready to start raining anyway).

In order to put sufficient chemicals into the air, such as spray for mosquitoes or dust crops, the airplane would have to be big enough to carry a sufficient amount of the chemical or dust to do the job, and even then the area it could cover would be small. There is no way a commercial airliner, for example, could carry enough in tanks as well as its usual payload to do any spraying. If you see a picture of an airplane modified to carry such tanks, it is most likely a fire-fighting airplane and carries fire retardant or water. Those airplanes do not fly high enough to be the ones you are seeing in the upper atmosphere.

Think about it: If there was a conspiracy to spray the entire countryside with chemicals, why would they go out on the days when the conditions are good for Contrails and do it then? They could easily fly at much lower altitudes and do it without you seeing it! Or put it in your water, or contaminate the food you eat (wait, they already do both those things! Fluoride, GMOs).

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Oct 19, 2016 17:55:13   #
payne1000
 
boofhead wrote:
There have been many attempts to modify the climate at least locally by dropping chemicals into the air in order to cause cloud to form, or make rain and no doubt this will continue. But it is not Chemtrails. Chemtrails are just misidentified Contrails, a totally natural occurrence. One of the attempts to modify climate is to cause the formation of cloud by adding water to the upper atmosphere. It would be horrendously expensive and impractical although it might work in some limited circumstances and it might have the opposite effect to what was attempted. Adding Silver Iodide to the air was used in the past to promote the formation of water droplets that in turn could make it rain. This does work if the atmosphere is in just the right condition (almost ready to start raining anyway).

In order to put sufficient chemicals into the air, such as spray for mosquitoes or dust crops, the airplane would have to be big enough to carry a sufficient amount of the chemical or dust to do the job, and even then the area it could cover would be small. There is no way a commercial airliner, for example, could carry enough in tanks as well as its usual payload to do any spraying. If you see a picture of an airplane modified to carry such tanks, it is most likely a fire-fighting airplane and carries fire retardant or water. Those airplanes do not fly high enough to be the ones you are seeing in the upper atmosphere.

Think about it: If there was a conspiracy to spray the entire countryside with chemicals, why would they go out on the days when the conditions are good for Contrails and do it then? They could easily fly at much lower altitudes and do it without you seeing it! Or put it in your water, or contaminate the food you eat (wait, they already do both those things! Fluoride, GMOs).
There have been many attempts to modify the climat... (show quote)


Did you even watch the video of CIA Director Brennan saying he saw the need for chemtrails? Former high-level CIA agent, Kevin Shipp, says when the CIA Director talks about a covert operation in public, such as chemtrails, that indicates the CIA is about ready to go public with the operation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5NW9KcMt0

What you are not considering is the most practical and economical way to distribute the chemtrail material is by mixing it with the jet fuel. Jet fuel already has sulphur in it. How much more sulphur would have to be added to cause long lasting cloud-like trails to form?

I don't think those who are spraying us with chemicals are doing it to deliberately affect our health. I think they know how serious global warming is and have hit the panic button. They see this as a solution which is more profitable to them than making a fast exit from fossil fuels.

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Oct 19, 2016 18:10:45   #
boofhead
 
payne1000 wrote:
Did you even watch the video of CIA Director Brennan saying he saw the need for chemtrails? Former high-level CIA agent, Kevin Shipp, says when the CIA Director talks about a covert operation in public, such as chemtrails, that indicates the CIA is about ready to go public with the operation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5NW9KcMt0

What you are not considering is the most practical and economical way to distribute the chemtrail material is by mixing it with the jet fuel. Jet fuel already has sulphur in it. How much more sulphur would have to be added to cause long lasting cloud-like trails to form?

I don't think those who are spraying us with chemicals are doing it to deliberately affect our health. I think they know how serious global warming is and have hit the panic button. They see this as a solution which is more profitable to them than making a fast exit from fossil fuels.
Did you even watch the video of CIA Director Brenn... (show quote)


When the chemical goes through the engines it will degrade not only itself but also the engines. It could not be done without the crew noticing it.

There is nothing new about the chemicals Brennan was talking about they have been used before but only in limited quantities simply because they have a substantial weight and take a lot of energy to carry aloft and spray. Not practical in the huge areas you are claiming as being affected.

If it was to happen we would know, such a secret could not be kept because too many people would be involved. And again, it would be ridiculously inefficient and mostly ineffective.

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Oct 19, 2016 18:49:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
So said by an anonymous government shill.
That information came from the ATC website.

This from a meteorologist:

Several times a month I get an email about chemtrails: the belief by some folks that white lines in the sky are the result of a secret U.S. government program to alter the climate of the planet (also know as geoengineering). They suggest that the lines are the result of noxious chemicals being deposited by aircraft and that they pose a dire threat to mankind. This is a classic conspiracy theory, but it does offer an educational opportunity.

Most of you are aware of contrails (short for condensation trails): clouds that form behind jets flying high in the troposphere or in the lowest stratosphere. The picture below shows a typical example.
Contrails occur because combustion in jet engines produce a substantial amount of water vapor and when the vapor escapes into the cold upper atmosphere it condenses rapidly into little water droplets that rapidly freeze, thus producing an ice cloud. Why does the water vapor condense? Because the upper atmosphere is cold and cold air can "hold" less water vapor than warm air. Thus, if you inject water vapor into very cold air, it will rapidly condense, particularly if the air is already close to saturation. This condensation is aided by the small particles produces by combustion that serve as condensation nuclei to aid the process.

Most of you already are pretty expert in producing clouds in cold air: it happens during very cold days--you can see your breath! These clouds are generally made of cloud drops. Human contrail?

Contrails can be produced by both jet aircraft and high-flying propeller driven planes. Contrails were first observed in the 1920s and was a great concern in WWII, since they allowed the enemy to see high-flying bombers. Also contrails could make it difficult for such bombers to stay in formation!.

Sometimes contrails are hard to see, while other times they fill the sky as shown in the figure below. Why? The chemtrail folks think this is due to enhanced military or geoengineering activity. The truth is that it all depends on how close the atmosphere is to saturation (100% relative humidity). Sometimes the upper atmosphere is very dry, thus you need to add a lot of moisture from aircraft to get saturation. Other times there is sinking motion. Both are bad for cloud formation. But in other times, there is rising motion (perhaps due to an approaching weather system) and this brings the atmosphere close to or to saturation. How can you tell the upper atmosphere is at saturation? You see lots of thin cirrus clouds (see below). If the atmosphere is near saturation, then the addition of moisture readily produces clouds (contrails). If the atmosphere is at saturation, the extra moisture makes thicker clouds.

A sky with a lot of cirrus clouds is a good sign there is upward motion and an upper atmosphere at saturation.

If you have a situation where the atmosphere is at or near saturation and a region with a lot of aircraft flying in the upper troposphere, you can have HUGE numbers of contrails.

In such situations (where the upper atmosphere is moist) the contrails can not only spread across the sky, but they can persist for hours. The longevity of contrails is a big deal to the chemtrails folks...they think it is proof of the "chemicals" be inserted by the top secret project.

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Oct 19, 2016 18:51:34   #
payne1000
 
boofhead wrote:
When the chemical goes through the engines it will degrade not only itself but also the engines. It could not be done without the crew noticing it.

There is nothing new about the chemicals Brennan was talking about they have been used before but only in limited quantities simply because they have a substantial weight and take a lot of energy to carry aloft and spray. Not practical in the huge areas you are claiming as being affected.

If it was to happen we would know, such a secret could not be kept because too many people would be involved. And again, it would be ridiculously inefficient and mostly ineffective.
When the chemical goes through the engines it will... (show quote)


The most well-known environmental engineer in the U.S. doesn't agree with you: http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=22f8364773afef6d82a907dbf1526d3e

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Oct 19, 2016 18:56:24   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
That information came from the ATC website.

This from a meteorologist:

Several times a month I get an email about chemtrails: the belief by some folks that white lines in the sky are the result of a secret U.S. government program to alter the climate of the planet (also know as geoengineering). They suggest that the lines are the result of noxious chemicals being deposited by aircraft and that they pose a dire threat to mankind. This is a classic conspiracy theory, but it does offer an educational opportunity.

Most of you are aware of contrails (short for condensation trails): clouds that form behind jets flying high in the troposphere or in the lowest stratosphere. The picture below shows a typical example.
Contrails occur because combustion in jet engines produce a substantial amount of water vapor and when the vapor escapes into the cold upper atmosphere it condenses rapidly into little water droplets that rapidly freeze, thus producing an ice cloud. Why does the water vapor condense? Because the upper atmosphere is cold and cold air can "hold" less water vapor than warm air. Thus, if you inject water vapor into very cold air, it will rapidly condense, particularly if the air is already close to saturation. This condensation is aided by the small particles produces by combustion that serve as condensation nuclei to aid the process.

Most of you already are pretty expert in producing clouds in cold air: it happens during very cold days--you can see your breath! These clouds are generally made of cloud drops. Human contrail?

Contrails can be produced by both jet aircraft and high-flying propeller driven planes. Contrails were first observed in the 1920s and was a great concern in WWII, since they allowed the enemy to see high-flying bombers. Also contrails could make it difficult for such bombers to stay in formation!.

Sometimes contrails are hard to see, while other times they fill the sky as shown in the figure below. Why? The chemtrail folks think this is due to enhanced military or geoengineering activity. The truth is that it all depends on how close the atmosphere is to saturation (100% relative humidity). Sometimes the upper atmosphere is very dry, thus you need to add a lot of moisture from aircraft to get saturation. Other times there is sinking motion. Both are bad for cloud formation. But in other times, there is rising motion (perhaps due to an approaching weather system) and this brings the atmosphere close to or to saturation. How can you tell the upper atmosphere is at saturation? You see lots of thin cirrus clouds (see below). If the atmosphere is near saturation, then the addition of moisture readily produces clouds (contrails). If the atmosphere is at saturation, the extra moisture makes thicker clouds.

A sky with a lot of cirrus clouds is a good sign there is upward motion and an upper atmosphere at saturation.

If you have a situation where the atmosphere is at or near saturation and a region with a lot of aircraft flying in the upper troposphere, you can have HUGE numbers of contrails.

In such situations (where the upper atmosphere is moist) the contrails can not only spread across the sky, but they can persist for hours. The longevity of contrails is a big deal to the chemtrails folks...they think it is proof of the "chemicals" be inserted by the top secret project.
That information came from the ATC website. br br... (show quote)


Readers should take note that the same shills who defend the Bush Administration conspiracy theory of 9/11 show up to argue against the existence of chemtrails.
It's another example of our tax dollars being totally wasted on the salaries of those whose only agenda is misinformation and lies.

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Oct 19, 2016 19:07:52   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Readers should take note that the same shills who defend the Bush Administration conspiracy theory of 9/11 show up to argue against the existence of chemtrails.
It's another example of our tax dollars being totally wasted on the salaries of those whose only agenda is misinformation and lies.
You really should seek psychiatric help. No shit, man, you are mentally ill.

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Oct 19, 2016 20:16:41   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You really should seek psychiatric help. No shit, man, you are mentally ill.


You who defend liars and mass murderers are the ones needing psychiatric help.
Unfortunately, Psychopathy cannot be cured.

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Oct 19, 2016 21:23:05   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
payne1000 wrote:
CIA Director Brennan told the Council on Foreign Relations he supports the use of chemtrails in the near future.
The reaction of CFR members to this news would have been interesting to watch since they all know chemtrails have been used for at least a decade now.
Our sky is full of them today.
Anyone who has an autistic child born in the last ten years might look to the sky for the cause.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBG81dXgM0Q

As opposed to vaccines or on top of them Payne?

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Oct 19, 2016 21:26:49   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
boofhead wrote:
Go back and take a look at photos of the sky over Europe during WWII. It was full of (shock horror) contrails (aka to the ignorant Chemtrails).
Guess what? Contrails are completely natural. Get over it.

Chemtrails are not retard.



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Oct 19, 2016 21:37:54   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
boofhead wrote:
Of course contrails have always been with us, as soon as we could put airplanes into the parts of the atmosphere where the conditions were right to cause them to form. They are totally natural and nothing to do with any conspiracy. You might not have noticed them until 10 years ago but I can assure you, as a pilot for over 50 years, they have always been there when the conditions are right (air temperature, saturation, particulates). Look it up, very easy to do and lots of good information available.
Of course contrails have always been with us, as s... (show quote)

Contrails only happen at high altitude cue trails are produced lower altitude. Contrails are frozen condensation. Chemtrails are bad for your health.

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Oct 19, 2016 21:39:45   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
Super Dave wrote:
Dufus... How old are you?

You didn't see contrails more than 10 years ago?

Sorry I saw contrails sixty years ago.

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Oct 19, 2016 21:42:41   #
kenjay Loc: Arkansas
 
payne1000 wrote:
Did you even watch the video of CIA Director Brennan saying he saw the need for chemtrails? Former high-level CIA agent, Kevin Shipp, says when the CIA Director talks about a covert operation in public, such as chemtrails, that indicates the CIA is about ready to go public with the operation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5NW9KcMt0

What you are not considering is the most practical and economical way to distribute the chemtrail material is by mixing it with the jet fuel. Jet fuel already has sulphur in it. How much more sulphur would have to be added to cause long lasting cloud-like trails to form?

I don't think those who are spraying us with chemicals are doing it to deliberately affect our health. I think they know how serious global warming is and have hit the panic button. They see this as a solution which is more profitable to them than making a fast exit from fossil fuels.
Did you even watch the video of CIA Director Brenn... (show quote)

And it is multiple aircraft cross crossing the sky.

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Oct 19, 2016 21:57:30   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
payne1000 wrote:
I saw contrails for 40 years before chemtrails started showing up.


For God's sake... Tell me you're just pertending to be as dumb as a pile of shit.

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Oct 19, 2016 21:58:30   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
kenjay wrote:
Sorry I saw contrails sixty years ago.


I saw them 50 years ago....

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