Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

What is scary is this ignorant putz probably votes. payne is just one more cowardly liberal racist hypocrite who got his sorry ass caught in a conspiracy trap.

payne1000

Insults are always an indication of inferiority. You won't even address me directly now.
You haven't explained why Hirohito was allowed to remain as Japan's emperor after WWII ended.
You posted an article which described him as an evil conniver.
Can you enlighten us to why he remained as emperor with U.S. backing?

thinksense

But as I just pointed out, the USSR was (and called itself ) The Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics (My capitalization) the "USSR". They did not call themselves a communist country, That was their espoused ultimate goal, from a capitalist to a socialist and finally the ultimate goal communist state. The idea was that first you had to destroy capitalist enslavement of the people, get rid of Capitalists by developing a Socialist state, and ultimately you would destroy that state to achieve Communism. Unfortunately the communist philosophy while useful in a brief emergency situation such as the Pilgrims first hungry year in Massachusetts, is not suited for human Psychology; you are, after all not Bees or Ants.

Calling your above example states Communist was done so that the Goyem would not object to the comming One World Government, which would of course be a True Socialist State, which the "NWO" will of course be, owning everyone and everything.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

You can think and do what you like. The vast majority of us here on OPP know you for what you are. That you are not aware of Obama firing so many senior military officers tells us that you have tunnel vision on you one or two phantom subjects.

payne1000

All on this forum who read this exchange now know you are a liar since you can't show a source for your false claim.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Not true! They majority are well aware of Obama firing so many military warriors. They are like me inasmuch as you're simply not worth the time and effort to find and post any articles. Sorry, Payne, but just the way it shakes out.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Oh, you poor baby, so thin skinned you can't take what you constantly dish out. Everything you post and every stupid question you ask is an insult to human intelligence. Your knowledge of WW2 history is just as vacuous as your knowledge of Islam. You have no clue regarding the reality of any of this.

I have spent most of my life studying history, much of it on the Second World War. I cannot count the number of works I have read on the subject, many I've read two or more times. I've read the works of national leaders, politicians, statesmen and soldiers on all sides of the conflict, from the journals and memoirs of the soldiers in the fight to the men who led them to the generals and the presidents, prime ministers, kings and dictators. And, I have covered both theaters.

I have no idea why you would even ask why Hirohito was allowed to remain as emperor of Japan. Given the the death and devastation the nation suffered because of their imperialistic folly and the healing processes a defeated people must endure and the rebuilding of whole cities and infrastructure, and most importantly, the divine status of the emperor in the eyes of the Japanese people, it is no mystery why MacArthur allowed Hirohito to remain. He felt that retaining the emperor, the Japanese would be much less resistant to the occupation and reconstruction of Japan. However there were conditions:

Japan surrendered unconditionally. The allies gave no guarantee that Hirohito would stay in power. Here is what they agreed to when they signed the declaration:

The authority of the Emperor and the Japanese Government to rule the state shall be subject to the Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers who will take such steps as he deems proper to effectuate these terms of surrender.
Signed at TOKYO BAY, JAPAN at 0904 on the SECOND day of SEPTEMBER 1945. (Read: Instrument of Surrender)

Hirohito was actually convinced he would be deposed and when he first met Douglas MacArthur he supposedly offered to step down from the throne and take the blame for starting the war.

Although only MacArthur, Hirohito and Hirohito's translator were present during this historic meeting in the book Embracing Defeat Dower spells out that Hirohito offered to fall on his sword but that MacArthur encouraged him to stay on as Emperor.

As Robert J. Kolker said in another answer the move to keep the Emperor on the throne was political. MacArthur and his occupation authorities, known in Japan as General Headquarters (GHQ), thought Japan would be easier to govern thus requiring less men to be stationed in Japan.

Even though evidence shows that Hirohito took part in the decision making process leading up to World War II the Americans and the Japanese collaborated together to put all the blame on Japanese government officials like Prime Minister Tojo and General Matsui. They willingly took the blame in order to save their Emperor, essentially killing themselves for Hirohito.

Hirohito didn't have the same position as before the war. In the famous January 1, 1946 Humanity Declaration he told the Japanese people that he wasn't a god and relinquished his authority over Japan becoming a powerless figurehead of the state.

payne1000

You don't seem to understand my question.
Why does that not surprise me.
The question I asked was--if Hirohito was as evil as you had implied earlier,
why would he be allowed to remain as emperor?
Would Hitler be allowed to remain as Chancellor of Germany if he decided not to kill himself?
Saddam Hussein was hanged. Gaddafi was murdered by U.S. mercenaries.
If Hirohito did actually encourage the Japanese people to take up the strategy of Ketsugo against Americans as you said in your post on page 2,
why wouldn't he do it again? Maybe. . . just maybe . . . your information is all wrong . . . as usual.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Wisdom prevailed. The Japanese culture was totally different and none of the other tyrants were considered God's. It was a very intelligent move and it worked.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Read this again, carefully. Hirohito basically had his balls cut off, he was a thoroughly defeated despot. Hirohito didn't have the same position as before the war. In the famous January 1, 1946 Humanity Declaration he told the Japanese people that he wasn't a god and relinquished his authority over Japan becoming a powerless figurehead of the state.

Good grief, you are a stupid man.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

payne1000

So Hirohito was a good man and not the conniving scoundrel you originally described him to be?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Did I say Hirohito was a good man? No, I did not. Seeing him as a "conniving scoundrel" is putting it mildly. However, when the terrible consequences of what his militant imperialism brought to his people and his nation, he was a broken and defeated man. He even told MacArthur that he would commit Harakiri, but MacArthur dissuaded him.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Anyone who thinks he is God, as we in the west understand God, is not a good man. But once the emperor denounced his deity he became useful to the west in gradually allowing the Japanese people a period of national transition. After awhile they began to almost worship MacArthur. Regardless, it worked. When I was on Okinawa in the early 1960's the last hold out fanatical Japanese soldier on Guam surrendered. On Okinawa they simply took off their uniforms over a period of time and integrated into the population.

payne1000

As is always the case, nothing you post makes sense.
Now you're implying that Hirohito and McArthur were like friends.
The only way to make sense out of that is if McArthur felt he owed
Hirohito for helping the U.S. enter the war in Europe.