Little Ball of Hate wrote:
You should realize that God is not a material being. Therefore, the laws of our universe do not apply to Him. He always existed. And don't you atheists believe that energy always existed? It just simply is. No explanation where it came from. LOL! That's just too funny.
According to believers, gawd created the universe, which consists of matter and energy. Certainly you don't think gawd is energy, do you? This based upon your own words.
And, take away matter and energy, you have nothing. The inconceivable nothing, not even space, empty space.
At least adjust your concept of your creator to be consistent with the universe we live in.
If gawd created the universe, then it was created from nothing and thus life sprang from nothing because gawd, is outside the universe, which, of course, consists of nothing. Pure, perfect nothing; not even empty space.
Do you really think you have a clue about a "creator" except to invent the idea of one?
sweetlips wrote:
I, being one that believes in god, now considered dumb by the atheist and scientist of our society, i have a simple
question for them.
How many mutations, good or bad, did it take to get from a single cell something to a full blown human being?
This shouldn't be to hard for the enlightened ones.
Why does it matter how many mutations it would take to get from a single cell to a complex cellular structure such as we are now. Not as long as you would think given that life started about 3.8 billion years ago with at least 4 or 5 near total mass extinctions along the way. Without those mass extinctions complex life most certainly would be here but but probably not us as T-Rex would have found us far too tasty to pass up...
Kazudy wrote:
Sweetips, it took exactly 3'874,194,627,998,217 mutations from the one cell goowie stuff to turn into a human. I know
it was a rhetorical question. God made man in His image,male and female.
So god is a hermaphrodite? Learn something new everyday...
nwtk2007 wrote:
Thank gawd for those creators who have simply always existed, needing not to explain where they come from, they just simply are, always.
I'll place my faith in good people, good hearted, not so perfect human beings. Like family, friends, etc.
I hate to say anything, but do you mean for instance Barack Obama. We don't know where he came from, he just is.
nwtk2007 wrote:
Took the words right out of my mouth, but with the gift of gab which I lack.
A reverse question is, why is gawd do preoccupied with penis foreskins? Was Mary still a virgin after gawd knocked her up? When Adam named the animals, what language did he speak?
Stupidity in the realm of Bible knowledge is excusable. It's a book of fairy tales. Stupidity in science is inexcusable.
If Adam and Eve were the first and only first humans, how did Cain and his subsequent brother Seth find wives and who were those other humans who would recognize the mark God put on Cain when he banished him to cue those other humans not to kill him?
Genesis 4:10
10 And the LORD said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying to me from the ground. 11 And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it shall no longer yield to you its strength. You shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth.” 13 Cain said to the LORD, “My e punishment is greater than I can bear.14 Behold, you have driven me today away from the ground, and from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth,
and whoever finds me will kill me.”15Then the LORD said to him, “Not so! If anyone kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him i sevenfold.”And the LORD j put a mark on Cain, lest any who found him should attack him. 16Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, [6] east of Eden. 17Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. When he built a city, he called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch.
Singularity wrote:
If Adam and Eve were the first and only first humans, how did Cain and his subsequent brother Seth find wives and who were those other humans who would recognize the mark God put on Cain when he banished him to cue those other humans not to kill him?
Genesis 4:10
10 And the LORD said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying to me from the ground. 11 And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it shall no longer yield to you its strength. You shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth.” 13 Cain said to the LORD, “My e punishment is greater than I can bear.14 Behold, you have driven me today away from the ground, and from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth,
and whoever finds me will kill me.”15Then the LORD said to him, “Not so! If anyone kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him i sevenfold.”And the LORD j put a mark on Cain, lest any who found him should attack him. 16Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, [6] east of Eden. 17Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. When he built a city, he called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch.
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And when one seeks an evolutionist to answer questions about abiogenesis, one has already demonstrated lack of understanstanding consistant with the rest of the rampant dishonesty and stupidity of the question.
Singularity wrote:
If Adam and Eve were the first and only first humans, how did Cain and his subsequent brother Seth find wives and who were those other humans who would recognize the mark God put on Cain when he banished him to cue those other humans not to kill him?
Genesis 4:10
10 And the LORD said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying to me from the ground. 11 And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it shall no longer yield to you its strength. You shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth.” 13 Cain said to the LORD, “My e punishment is greater than I can bear.14 Behold, you have driven me today away from the ground, and from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth,
and whoever finds me will kill me.”15Then the LORD said to him, “Not so! If anyone kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him i sevenfold.”And the LORD j put a mark on Cain, lest any who found him should attack him. 16Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, [6] east of Eden. 17Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. When he built a city, he called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch.
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Exactly. Reminds me of Tolkien and his Sil Marilion (spelled wrong of course); his ancient history of the elves and dwarfs.
Singularity wrote:
If Adam and Eve were the first and only first humans, how did Cain and his subsequent brother Seth find wives and who were those other humans who would recognize the mark God put on Cain when he banished him to cue those other humans not to kill him?
Genesis 4:10
10 And the LORD said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying to me from the ground. 11 And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it shall no longer yield to you its strength. You shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth.” 13 Cain said to the LORD, “My e punishment is greater than I can bear.14 Behold, you have driven me today away from the ground, and from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth,
and whoever finds me will kill me.”15Then the LORD said to him, “Not so! If anyone kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him i sevenfold.”And the LORD j put a mark on Cain, lest any who found him should attack him. 16Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, [6] east of Eden. 17Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. When he built a city, he called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch.
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And my question is rhetorical, I have endured enough apologetics on this issue and reject apologetics completely as conceivably necessary for a perfect book provided by a perfect deity.
If the Bible IS the perfect word of your perfect God then your questions and answers would have one source noted with book, chapter'n'verse provided from the perfect book itself!
No debate necessary. The fact that honest debate over the meaning of biblical texts exists is proof of the imperfection of the text.
Singularity wrote:
And when one seeks an evolutionist to answer questions about abiogenesis, one has already demonstrated lack of understanstanding consistant with the rest of the rampant dishonesty and stupidity of the question.
I know, right? This one, like so many, speak science out of their ass, like the guy in the commercial who spoke sports out of his ass; he needed to start listening to ESPN. This one needs a science education.
Oliver wrote:
Even better would be the question: How many mutations (or attempts) did it take for the elements to form just one so-called "simple" cell?...knowing that if any one cell PART or just one incomplete cell FUNCTION occurred, it would render the whole process null and void and would have to start over again with absolutely no "memory" of where it went wrong in the first place. According to evolutionists own theory of "survival of the fittest" anything "unfit" is done away with. Such is the case of every cell that is either incomplete in part or function...it is rendered obsolete! So until the scientists can determine (which scientifically it is impossible for them to do do) how many mutations it took to get from one cell to a whole body, they first must determine how many tries it must have taken for the elements to form just ONE "simple" cell. Good luck on that one!
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...and what form of consciousness propels that cell to keep trying until it's known objective?
PeterS wrote:
So god is a hermaphrodite? Learn something new everyday...
Hermaphrodites don't exist... come on Peter you know it's a mental disorder
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