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Jun 28, 2016 06:22:36   #
PeterS
 
Ferrous wrote:
Just guessing... Homosexuality was considered adultery until they made Gay Wedding legal... and coveting your neighbor's ass is still a no no.


Trump committed adultery with both his first and second wife (that he's admitted to)plus he had a child out of wedlock. If adultery is the same as homosexuality than why are conservatives so hopped up about a queer? The fact is, people no longer care about adultery--not even those who consider themselves the moral torch of society--so why isn't it time we stop caring what two men or two women are doing in their bedrooms.

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Jun 28, 2016 07:14:50   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
no propaganda please wrote:
http://qz.com/717477/christians-owe-gays-an-apology-pope-francis-says/

Did the Pope just declare that homosexual behavior is only a minor sin such as stealing a pencil from work, not a major sin any more? What is your interpretation?


Well, since the Bible has no "ten commandments", it is a Catholic invention, therefor - they can interpret it any way they choose. As for myself, I take my instruction directly from the Bible, it's now in the English language.

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Jun 28, 2016 08:13:59   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump committed adultery with both his first and second wife (that he's admitted to)plus he had a child out of wedlock. If adultery is the same as homosexuality than why are conservatives so hopped up about a queer? The fact is, people no longer care about adultery--not even those who consider themselves the moral torch of society--so why isn't it time we stop caring what two men or two women are doing in their bedrooms.


I could care less what a man or woman does in their bedroom with a partner...

I do care about what Pope Francis does when he tries to rewrite Church Doctrine to be Politically Correct

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Jun 28, 2016 08:24:11   #
PeterS
 
Ferrous wrote:
I could care less what a man or woman does in their bedroom with a partner...

I do care about what Pope Francis does when he tries to rewrite Church Doctrine to be Politically Correct


What does being political correct have to do with treating other people as if they are humans? You are sitting here and trying to twist the Ten Commandments into the meaning that you want. Yeah, having to be politically correct is a bitch isn't it...

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Jun 28, 2016 08:32:33   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Ferrous wrote:
Just guessing... Homosexuality was considered adultery until they made Gay Wedding legal... and coveting your neighbor's ass is still a no no.



Any sex outside of God sanctioned marriage is adultery, so that would automatically include same sex behavior

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Jun 28, 2016 08:55:11   #
PeterS
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Any sex outside of God sanctioned marriage is adultery, so that would automatically include same sex behavior



So is sodomy between a husband and wife adultery?

a·dul·ter·y
əˈdəlt(ə)rē/Submit
noun
voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse.


Do you want me to change the dictionary or should you?

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Jun 28, 2016 09:44:26   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
PeterS wrote:
So is sodomy between a husband and wife adultery?

a·dul·ter·y
əˈdəlt(ə)rē/Submit
noun
voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse.


Do you want me to change the dictionary or should you?



The marriage between a man and woman is sanctioned by God, we were not talking about anal sex per se. Medical advice is against anal sex as it is dangerous and damaging to the tissue, but if you want to do it go right ahead.

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Jun 28, 2016 09:49:45   #
Radiance3
 
no propaganda please wrote:
http://qz.com/717477/christians-owe-gays-an-apology-pope-francis-says/

Did the Pope just declare that homosexual behavior is only a minor sin such as stealing a pencil from work, not a major sin any more? What is your interpretation?


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I don't know about this Pope Francis. I like Pope Benedict, and Pope John Paul II, now a Saint and he deserves it.

The Holy Bible says, Genesis 1:18:
God created man in His image. And then woman from the ribs of the man He created to make a woman.

And God also said this Genesis 1:28
New International Version
God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

New Living Translation
Then God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground."

What liberals are seeing is that when man marries another man, or woman marries another woman. That is okay for them.
But how can they propagate if man marries another man, or woman marries another woman? if that is true to all then the world will end soon, for nothing to replenish the earth.

The worst part they do is they want to stick it on our face force us to obey the rules they do to satisfy their wants.
The Liberals want kids in school to use the same bathroom with these perverts. And now democrats made it a law.
Likewise adult gays/lesbians also force us to use same bathroom with these perverts. Danger here is a man could pretend to be gay and use same bathroom with female kids, or woman then commit crimes of sexual abuse on the female.

Another problem caused by the law of liberals is by forcing male and female to use similar bathroom. It is common on homos that because of their filthy lifestyle, they carry various sexually transmitted diseases like aids, syphilis, gonorrhea.
If they use same bathroom with female, then they could spread these deadly diseases to others who use same bathroom. Then it becomes an epidemic, taxpayers spend billion dollars for their Medical Care. It becomes also SOCIAL PROBLEMS.

In San Francisco, the land of Nancy Pelosi, it is an eye sore how these perverts behave in public. Problems of their behavior affect the all of us in a very negative and expensive ways. that is why God does not tolerate what Pope Francis thinks it is okay.

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Jun 28, 2016 12:08:28   #
JimMe
 
no propaganda please wrote:
http://qz.com/717477/christians-owe-gays-an-apology-pope-francis-says/

Did the Pope just declare that homosexual behavior is only a minor sin such as stealing a pencil from work, not a major sin any more? What is your interpretation?



If you're an Old Testament believer - perhaps Jewish - you would believe God Forbids Homosexuality - source Leviticus 18:22...
And I never saw New Testament scripture relating to Homosexuality, so I'd assume the Old Testament would apply for non-Catholic Christians as well...
Catholics, however, now see it as their Pope decreed... A minor sin...

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Jun 28, 2016 12:13:48   #
Big Bass
 
no propaganda please wrote:
http://qz.com/717477/christians-owe-gays-an-apology-pope-francis-says/

Did the Pope just declare that homosexual behavior is only a minor sin such as stealing a pencil from work, not a major sin any more? What is your interpretation?


He is trying to avoid huge lawsuits brought by victims of his disgusting, child-molesting queer priests. By minimalizing homosexuality, these kind of sexually aberrant actions may, too, be minimalized.

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Jun 28, 2016 12:19:36   #
JimMe
 
Bruce Kennedy wrote:
You're so full of shit, Homosexuality was never considered adultery. No where does it say coveting your neighbor's ass, in the Bible, that's blasphemous, is it? Btw slick here is the definition of adultery..."a·dul·ter·y

/əˈdəlt(ə)rē/ noun: adultery; voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse.
" And by the very definition, of adultery, before Gay marriage was legal, it was impossible for Gays to be adulterers, because they were never legally married.

Typical Conservative, you just make shit up as you go along, don't you?
You're so full of shit, Homosexuality was never co... (show quote)



Well... Leviticus 18:22-23 does say:

…22 You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination. 23 Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to be defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion.…

So, although not adultery, Homosexuality and Beastiality are condemned as MORTAL SINS in the Bible... Which is more to the point...

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Jun 28, 2016 12:21:17   #
Big Bass
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump committed adultery with both his first and second wife (that he's admitted to)plus he had a child out of wedlock. If adultery is the same as homosexuality than why are conservatives so hopped up about a queer? The fact is, people no longer care about adultery--not even those who consider themselves the moral torch of society--so why isn't it time we stop caring what two men or two women are doing in their bedrooms.


Is Trump running for pope?

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Jun 28, 2016 12:24:59   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Bruce Kennedy wrote:
Are you serious? Is your title for real? What Commandments did the Pope invalidate? Your title is incendiary and shows a completely moronic approach in dealing with what the Pope said. You obviously have no interest in civil discourse, you just post things to push buttons and receive praise from your fellow Cons. Btw, which of the Ten Commandments deals with the Pope's statements, and how did his remarks invalidate any of the Ten Commandments? Here's a refresher course in the Ten Commandments, since you seem to know nothing about them.

"Bible Ten Commandments Catholic Ten Commandments
1st
I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
1st
I am the LORD thy God. Thou shalt have no strange gods before Me.

2nd
Exodus 20:4-6 You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my Commandments.

Deleted. See also idolatry in the Catholic Church

(There is idolatry in the Papal system so the second Commandment has been deleted or sometimes it has been absorbed into the first. All remaining Commandments are therefore shifted along one count.)

3rd
Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God In vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
2nd
Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.

4th
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD your God: in it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
3rd
Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.

(The Sabbath is the fourth Commandment by normal count. The day to be kept is no longer mentioned since they changed the Sabbath to Sunday.)

(Note that God had more to say about the fourth Commandment than all others and with good reason. It is very important.)

5th
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
4th
Honour thy father and thy mother.

6th
Thou shalt not kill.
5th
Thou shalt not kill.

7th
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
6th
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8th
Thou shalt not steal.
7th
Thou shalt not steal.

9th
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
8th
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

10th
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
9th
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife.

(The Tenth Commandment is split into two to get back to Ten Commandments.)

10th
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's good
".

There you go Einstein, there is the Bible version of the Ten Commandments and the Catholic version, according to one source. Now point out how the Pope has invalidated any one of these Commandments.
Are you serious? Is your title for real? What Comm... (show quote)


This pope concerns me too but here is the Truth. Being homosexual IS NOT A SIN! Engaging in homosexual acts, sodomy, is a sin! Furthermore, scripture clearly says if you break one commandment you break them all. Now that, dear people, is a "hard" saying. And so far as abortion being a forgivable sin? Unquestionably all sin is forgivable providing an individual is sincerely repentant and confesses their sin and seeks forgiveness. Judas' sin, betraying Christ, was not even an unforgivable sin. Most Christians betray Christ in one way or another every day. Judas sin was the ultimate, best example, of the sin of Pride. Judas thought he'd done something so wrong, so evil, that even Jesus could not forgive him so he went and compounded his sin by self murder.

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Jun 28, 2016 12:37:15   #
Singularity
 
no propaganda please wrote:
The marriage between a man and woman is sanctioned by God, we were not talking about anal sex per se. Medical advice is against anal sex as it is dangerous and damaging to the tissue, but if you want to do it go right ahead.


Oh, puhleeeeeze! Normal penile penetration of a virginal vagina is "dangerous, damaging to the tissues" (and can lead to STD's and pregnancies, which, if they don't KILL you, can certainly alter the course of your life!) But no one recommends total celibacy because of it!

You and your wife would almost certainly have eagerly chosen that danger were you able to conceive, from your earlier reports! I suspect you might have continued to perform sexually with one another after the possibility of pregnancy was past. Many teach that THAT is sinful as they believe procreation is the only proper reason and purpose for sex.

There is only one sexual position between a specific configuration of persons that, at least 40 years sgo, was taught to doctors as best avoided, medically, or done with great care by healthy persons and it is not anal sex!

As a public service announcement: (based on med school curriculum of 40 years ago) this is it. Penile penetration of the vagina from the 69 position. It is proscribed because unless the couple moves carefully in a controlled manner, bending and painful disfiguring rupture of the penis is likely. Anal sex is noted to be fine if one avoids transfer of fecal matter to the vaginal tract if afterwards two choose to continue but switch up positions. Some concessions are made for certain facets of pregnancy for some people.

LIFE ITSELF is "dangerous, damaging to the tissues," and ultimately a fatal condition!

That's LIFE! No one gets out alive! One makes one's choices and takes one's lumps. (And enjoys the booty along the way whenever possible!)

You insist on the right to make your own choices. If you are too much of a wiennie about some choices to handle them, or feel obligated to your deity to prove something to it by self denigration and sacrifice of normal pleasures, think it's icky, or just don't want to do it, then just sit on the sidelines and twiddle your thumbs, or find something more useful to do if you wish.

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Jun 28, 2016 12:52:22   #
Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas
 
Ferrous wrote:
There is just something un-natural about a man wanting to sodomize another man. The very Term comes from Sodom and Gomorrah.. where men indulged in gang rape of visitors.

Adultery: Adultery (anglicised from Latin adulterium) is extramarital sex that is considered objectionable on social, religious, moral or legal grounds. Though what sexual ...

Adultterium... Adulterium properly signifies, in the Roman law, the offence committed by a man, married or unmarried, having sexual intercourse with a woman ...

the Romans used adulterium and adulteratio as we use the word “adulteration,” to express the corrupting of a thing by mixing something with it of less value.

Most often a married man or woman having sex with another partner... but can also be used as defining fornicators (lol)

(Mark 7:21-23; cf. also Matthew 15:19). St. Paul warned, "Can you not realize that the unholy will not fall heir to the kingdom of God? Do not deceive your selves: no fornicators, idolaters, or adulterers, no sexual perverts, thieves, misers or drunkards, no slanderers, or robbers will inherit God’s kingdom"

Of course the Catholic Church along with our Society have moved away from such drastic Victorian views on Sex.
There is just something un-natural about a man wan... (show quote)



Well when in Rome do as the Romans, as they say. Unfortunately for this individual we are not in ancient Rome. We happen to live in the 21st century and the law concerning adultery is defined as sex between a married individual and an individual not their spouse. And modern law says nothing concerning homosexuality as being adulterous. The illegal act or sin of adultery has nothing to do with homosexuality, it has to do with a married individual engaged with someone not their spouse.

"Though you'd never know it by the rampant affairs, cheating on your spouse is still illegal in many parts of the country. Most states with an adultery law define the act of cheating as sexual intercourse between a married person and a person other than their spouse, but the punishments for this act vary greatly depending on the location. Here are 16 states where you can get cheaters fined and even locked up."

Nice try Einstein. Now I personally don't like, even the thought of homosexuality, but I do believe it is a condition not a choice. I do believe these individuals were born this way. And while I find it repugnant it does not lessen the fact that these individuals are human beings and entitled to all the liberties every American enjoys, in this country. I, like many, would like never to hear or deal with the subject of homosexuality, but that is not realistic, everyone in this country will probably encounter a homosexual at some point in their life. You don't have to go into their life style when you meet them. Let them be who they are and you be who you are and just deal with each other like you deal with every other human being you encounter. Hell you may even have homosexual friends and not even know it. The reality is that it is not your place to judge. You are not God. God says..."Judge not lest ye be judged", Mathew 7 1-3.

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