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Jun 14, 2016 02:26:38   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Ferrous wrote:
That's the misconception when Obama uses the term assault weapon instead of assault rifle... He crafts his words to deceive. Look at all the things he said about Obama Care in conning the American people.


He conned the stupid liberals not the conservatives.

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Jun 14, 2016 02:55:56   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Hemiman wrote:
He conned the stupid liberals not the conservatives.


He was trying to con the sheeple. Those that don't really pay attention, but still vote, Obama was the Messiah and young people flocked to him like he was a Rock Star.

The Liberal Democrats will vote how ever they are told. Conservative Republicans will follow their Moral Compass.

It's all the voters in the middle that is targeted... The misinformed, weak minded ones that have been programed (Brainwashed) in our schools.

What I don't understand is the Supposedly intelligent Liberals that go along with these deceptions and lies. They parrot the Democratic Party talking points, and when confronted with one of their mistruths, They either ignore the proof and going on with their disproved premise or.. they turn the discussion to personal attacks.

When the name calling starts, their argument has been lost. That goes for both Liberals and Conservative. The first one resorting to Ad Hominem attacks has lost the argument.

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Jun 14, 2016 02:57:52   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Another Mass shooting but this one happens to be the worst. I never thought you gun advocates would ever exceed 20 (6) year old kids and do nothing but here we are again and I am GD sick of yours guns especially these assault rifles.

The only thing right now that matters is what happened in Orlando when a US citizen named Omar Mateen opened fire with a semi automatic rifle at a gay bar killing 50 people. I know most right wing extremist actually like this because what the hell there gay. They have no rights anyway. They can be cured if they wanted to be cured. Remember all this crazy right wing garbage.

But by now we all know the drill, Obama addresses the nation and ask when does the madness stop. (NRA NEVER) your typical right wing thoughts and prayers, and scream terrorism (not real prayers because there gay) they have no rights. Left wing decry gun violence and we need reform(NRA NEVER) Donald Trump thank you for the congrats that I am right. Then goes on TV and blames The whole world and he can fix it in a day if he gets in office. What buffoon

At some point we have to say enough, I am and always have been far left on this issue which is why I would take away every GD gun in American if I could. We don't need assault rifles on our streets.

If we deprived Omar Mateen of his AR-15 he's just another homophobic loser. Put a AR-15 in his hand and he's a mass murderer. What disturbs me the most is how you NRA disciples knowing full well that the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for mass murders. It actually kills faster than a republican can count. But you will kiss the ground that the NRA walks on and block any kind of gun control not only that you block any debate on gun violence.

Gun lobbyist tell us that AR-15 are great for hunting I suppose that's true as long as your targets are 6 year olds in a classroom or gays at there local water hole. Then they say there're necessary for defending your home, from what a GD army. It's foolish talk.

Are we not a civilized society no one needs a gun least of all an assault rifle. A loved one is more likely to be killed by the gun you forget to lock up than by a home invader.

The reason so many Americans get shot, is because so many Americans have guns.

Stand your ground cases boil down to two people losing there temper and at least one grabs a gun.

The issue is how did Mateen who was under watch by the FBI twice. Why was he able to purchase a gun. The same way a terrorist on the no fly list can purchase a gun because the NRA and it's disciples called republicans block any kind of debate on guns in this country. With today's Republican Party you cannot get a bill on the floor if it just has the word gun in it. The NRA will say they determined he was a Islamic terrorist and he would have found a way.
To that I say BS there saying this because Mateen shouted about ISIS in a 911 call at the scene that makes him an opportunist not a hardened Islamic terrorist. Then the BS he wasn't devout or religious or radicalized he was a unstable and hateful fueled by the hate filled racist in this country.

Wether or not you want to label him a Muslim, he is a terrorist no different than Lanza, Robert Dear all white men that committed there killings in the name of something other than Islam.

If we had some kind of gun regulation in this country would Mateen have worked to get those guns , we'll never know because he didn't have to, and if nothing is done neither will the next shooter.

The NRA keeps boxing out any kind of gun legislation but at some point , perhaps in my lifetime or my children or my grandchildren we'll do something sensible and rid this country of guns.

I just don't know what the answer is but for the right wing to absolutely refuse to even debate any kind of gun violence is absurd. When will you wake up
Another Mass shooting but this one happens to be t... (show quote)


Yo turdbreath,

You better go buy a gun sucker.

And don't go out looking like the punk that you are.

ISIS has put a bounty on punks.

We don't want to see you get all busted up by some sand spook terrorist..........................WUSS !!

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Jun 14, 2016 02:58:09   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Another Mass shooting but this one happens to be the worst. I never thought you gun advocates would ever exceed 20 (6) year old kids and do nothing but here we are again and I am GD sick of yours guns especially these assault rifles.

The only thing right now that matters is what happened in Orlando when a US citizen named Omar Mateen opened fire with a semi automatic rifle at a gay bar killing 50 people. I know most right wing extremist actually like this because what the hell there gay. They have no rights anyway. They can be cured if they wanted to be cured. Remember all this crazy right wing garbage.

But by now we all know the drill, Obama addresses the nation and ask when does the madness stop. (NRA NEVER) your typical right wing thoughts and prayers, and scream terrorism (not real prayers because there gay) they have no rights. Left wing decry gun violence and we need reform(NRA NEVER) Donald Trump thank you for the congrats that I am right. Then goes on TV and blames The whole world and he can fix it in a day if he gets in office. What buffoon

At some point we have to say enough, I am and always have been far left on this issue which is why I would take away every GD gun in American if I could. We don't need assault rifles on our streets.

If we deprived Omar Mateen of his AR-15 he's just another homophobic loser. Put a AR-15 in his hand and he's a mass murderer. What disturbs me the most is how you NRA disciples knowing full well that the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for mass murders. It actually kills faster than a republican can count. But you will kiss the ground that the NRA walks on and block any kind of gun control not only that you block any debate on gun violence.

Gun lobbyist tell us that AR-15 are great for hunting I suppose that's true as long as your targets are 6 year olds in a classroom or gays at there local water hole. Then they say there're necessary for defending your home, from what a GD army. It's foolish talk.

Are we not a civilized society no one needs a gun least of all an assault rifle. A loved one is more likely to be killed by the gun you forget to lock up than by a home invader.

The reason so many Americans get shot, is because so many Americans have guns.

Stand your ground cases boil down to two people losing there temper and at least one grabs a gun.

The issue is how did Mateen who was under watch by the FBI twice. Why was he able to purchase a gun. The same way a terrorist on the no fly list can purchase a gun because the NRA and it's disciples called republicans block any kind of debate on guns in this country. With today's Republican Party you cannot get a bill on the floor if it just has the word gun in it. The NRA will say they determined he was a Islamic terrorist and he would have found a way.
To that I say BS there saying this because Mateen shouted about ISIS in a 911 call at the scene that makes him an opportunist not a hardened Islamic terrorist. Then the BS he wasn't devout or religious or radicalized he was a unstable and hateful fueled by the hate filled racist in this country.

Wether or not you want to label him a Muslim, he is a terrorist no different than Lanza, Robert Dear all white men that committed there killings in the name of something other than Islam.

If we had some kind of gun regulation in this country would Mateen have worked to get those guns , we'll never know because he didn't have to, and if nothing is done neither will the next shooter.

The NRA keeps boxing out any kind of gun legislation but at some point , perhaps in my lifetime or my children or my grandchildren we'll do something sensible and rid this country of guns.

I just don't know what the answer is but for the right wing to absolutely refuse to even debate any kind of gun violence is absurd. When will you wake up
Another Mass shooting but this one happens to be t... (show quote)


Do you know how many people have been put on the no-fly list by mistake? Did you know that the number is in the thousands?
Did you know that in 2013, there were more than 76,000 stops on people trying to purchase a gun, and that the BATFE prosecuted less than 100 cases, and got less than 30 convictions?
Did you know that according to the FBI, more people die each year from stabbings than those terrible old semi auto rifles?
Did you know that more people are beaten to death each year than are killed with those mean old guns?
You are a typical Liberal. You think gun control will work when the government that is supposed to be in charge of it refuses to enforce the laws we have. Your solution is to pass more laws that won't be enforced either.
How about the hundreds of deaths caused by the "Fast and Furious" screwup? Not one single BATFE agent has ever been punished for that one. NOT ONE. Your boy Obama slapped an Executive Privilege gag order on the whole mess. (Before you even start your bullshit, Fast and Furious is Obama's baby. It was started and SHUT DOWN under Bush, then re-started by Obama.
These idiots are the ones you think are going to save us.
Fort Hood. The DC Beltway Sniper. The Oregon school shooting.Chattanooga, San Bernadino and now Orlando. Each one committed by a fucking Muslim. I'll bet you never stopped to think that our per capita murder rate is half what it was during the Clinton gun ban.
I'll bet you never stopped to think that Mexico, which has very strict gun control has one third of our population and had twice as many murders as we did last year. Their per capita murder rate is five times as high as ours.
Hell, you never stopped to think period. If you did you would not have posted this knee jerk drivel about the nasty old NRA is to blame, rather than government enforcement agencies who cant find their asses with both hands.
You likewise never stopped to think that of the mass shooting that have happened in this country in the last 8 years, all but one of them happened in a gun free zone. It really doesn't matter what sort of weapon you have when no one else has one.

Six of the shootings were committed by Muslims. One by a cop, in California. Almost all of the shooters were Democrat voters. One was a former Obama campaign worker.
You know as much about firearms as you do about everything else, which is next to nothing. Your GodKing Obama and his pick of the litter Hillary refuse to name the real problems, which are Muslim terrorists, and incompetent government bureaucrats. You think that somehow passing more laws that won't be enforced will solve the problem. It will just create more.
Or maybe it's just a plot by the GOPTPNRAFOXNEWSKOCHBROTHERSHANNITY axis of evil.

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Jun 14, 2016 05:15:52   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
Do you know how many people have been put on the no-fly list by mistake? Did you know that the number is in the thousands?
Did you know that in 2013, there were more than 76,000 stops on people trying to purchase a gun, and that the BATFE prosecuted less than 100 cases, and got less than 30 convictions?
Did you know that according to the FBI, more people die each year from stabbings than those terrible old semi auto rifles?
Did you know that more people are beaten to death each year than are killed with those mean old guns?
You are a typical Liberal. You think gun control will work when the government that is supposed to be in charge of it refuses to enforce the laws we have. Your solution is to pass more laws that won't be enforced either.
How about the hundreds of deaths caused by the "Fast and Furious" screwup? Not one single BATFE agent has ever been punished for that one. NOT ONE. Your boy Obama slapped an Executive Privilege gag order on the whole mess. (Before you even start your bullshit, Fast and Furious is Obama's baby. It was started and SHUT DOWN under Bush, then re-started by Obama.
These idiots are the ones you think are going to save us.
Fort Hood. The DC Beltway Sniper. The Oregon school shooting.Chattanooga, San Bernadino and now Orlando. Each one committed by a fucking Muslim. I'll bet you never stopped to think that our per capita murder rate is half what it was during the Clinton gun ban.
I'll bet you never stopped to think that Mexico, which has very strict gun control has one third of our population and had twice as many murders as we did last year. Their per capita murder rate is five times as high as ours.
Hell, you never stopped to think period. If you did you would not have posted this knee jerk drivel about the nasty old NRA is to blame, rather than government enforcement agencies who cant find their asses with both hands.
You likewise never stopped to think that of the mass shooting that have happened in this country in the last 8 years, all but one of them happened in a gun free zone. It really doesn't matter what sort of weapon you have when no one else has one.

Six of the shootings were committed by Muslims. One by a cop, in California. Almost all of the shooters were Democrat voters. One was a former Obama campaign worker.
You know as much about firearms as you do about everything else, which is next to nothing. Your GodKing Obama and his pick of the litter Hillary refuse to name the real problems, which are Muslim terrorists, and incompetent government bureaucrats. You think that somehow passing more laws that won't be enforced will solve the problem. It will just create more.
Or maybe it's just a plot by the GOPTPNRAFOXNEWSKOCHBROTHERSHANNITY axis of evil.
Do you know how many people have been put on the n... (show quote)


How many mass killings are committed with a knife?

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Jun 14, 2016 06:14:57   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
PeterS wrote:
How many mass killings are committed with a knife?


Why do you ask ?planning one are you?

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Jun 14, 2016 06:41:20   #
Buford Loc: Arizona
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Yup protect the gun and the hell with kids and people. You are the terrorist in this country it's called the GOP because all you care about is your guns what a disgrace for human being you are.


Your ignorance is amazing. Your blaming the guns for this? Let's look at the fact these crimes were committed by Muslims you protect them but blame the guns. Do you also blame the cars in deaths by drunk drivers? Why aren't you going after ther government for failing to keep us safe from Muslim terrorist that they have on terror watch lists? Instead you want to take away the rights of everyone else.

YOU MAKE ME SICK

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Jun 14, 2016 06:52:00   #
S. Maturin
 
Think about it.... the Orlando muslim paused to make a phone call in the midst of his slaughtering innocent, helpless American citizens and he received not one return shot.. Gee, have we heard that bit before, huh?
So, Hillary and Barry Hussein believe with all their shriveled, black hearts the USA needs more muslims and all Americans should be forbidden guns. That makes sense to very few- even the most ignorant moron on the liberal progressive commune.

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Jun 14, 2016 06:53:59   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Buford wrote:
Your ignorance is amazing. Your blaming the guns for this? Let's look at the fact these crimes were committed by Muslims you protect them but blame the guns. Do you also blame the cars in deaths by drunk drivers? Why aren't you going after ther government for failing to keep us safe from Muslim terrorist that they have on terror watch lists? Instead you want to take away the rights of everyone else.

YOU MAKE ME SICK


If you think is ignorance is amazing stick around, you haven't seen anything yet,this is just the tip of his ignorance iceberg.

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Jun 14, 2016 07:21:54   #
eaglekeeper Loc: Warner Robins, Georgia
 
So if we follow your logic, all guns are bad. I will have to remember that and for the sake of good judgement and punish mine for being bad. LOL. I am 69 1/2 years old today. For 50 years I have owned guns in various manufacturers and calibers. In all those years not one of my guns has harmed another human being. So again according to your logic, we as a nation should be a defenseless free fire zone for people like the leftist Democrat nut job to do their dastardly deeds among the populace and we are to cower in fear that we too aren't killed?? By the way, him being a citizen has not one thing to do with his perpetrating this heinous crime. Our prisons are full of folks just like him, citizens one and all. Down here in the South we have a saying about such things as you are proposing, "that dog won't hunt". Can't make it any plainer than that. Satan is the father of all violence and hatred. So try blaming the source rather than the tool used to murder. We Bible toting Christians will continue to cling to those two things. Churches in some areas are allowing for CCW. I will be signing up for that program at my church. You???

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Jun 14, 2016 07:30:10   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
eaglekeeper wrote:
So if we follow your logic, all guns are bad. I will have to remember that and for the sake of good judgement and punish mine for being bad. LOL. I am 69 1/2 years old today. For 50 years I have owned guns in various manufacturers and calibers. In all those years not one of my guns has harmed another human being. So again according to your logic, we as a nation should be a defenseless free fire zone for people like the leftist Democrat nut job to do their dastardly deeds among the populace and we are to cower in fear that we too aren't killed?? By the way, him being a citizen has not one thing to do with his perpetrating this heinous crime. Our prisons are full of folks just like him, citizens one and all. Down here in the South we have a saying about such things as you are proposing, "that dog won't hunt". Can't make it any plainer than that. Satan is the father of all violence and hatred. So try blaming the source rather than the tool used to murder. We Bible toting Christians will continue to cling to those two things. Churches in some areas are allowing for CCW. I will be signing up for that program at my church. You???
So if we follow your logic, all guns are bad. I wi... (show quote)


You need too hit quote reply so we know who you are responding too.

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Jun 14, 2016 07:30:25   #
son of witless
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Another Mass shooting but this one happens to be the worst. I never thought you gun advocates would ever exceed 20 (6) year old kids and do nothing but here we are again and I am GD sick of yours guns especially these assault rifles.

The only thing right now that matters is what happened in Orlando when a US citizen named Omar Mateen opened fire with a semi automatic rifle at a gay bar killing 50 people. I know most right wing extremist actually like this because what the hell there gay. They have no rights anyway. They can be cured if they wanted to be cured. Remember all this crazy right wing garbage.

But by now we all know the drill, Obama addresses the nation and ask when does the madness stop. (NRA NEVER) your typical right wing thoughts and prayers, and scream terrorism (not real prayers because there gay) they have no rights. Left wing decry gun violence and we need reform(NRA NEVER) Donald Trump thank you for the congrats that I am right. Then goes on TV and blames The whole world and he can fix it in a day if he gets in office. What buffoon

At some point we have to say enough, I am and always have been far left on this issue which is why I would take away every GD gun in American if I could. We don't need assault rifles on our streets.

If we deprived Omar Mateen of his AR-15 he's just another homophobic loser. Put a AR-15 in his hand and he's a mass murderer. What disturbs me the most is how you NRA disciples knowing full well that the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for mass murders. It actually kills faster than a republican can count. But you will kiss the ground that the NRA walks on and block any kind of gun control not only that you block any debate on gun violence.

Gun lobbyist tell us that AR-15 are great for hunting I suppose that's true as long as your targets are 6 year olds in a classroom or gays at there local water hole. Then they say there're necessary for defending your home, from what a GD army. It's foolish talk.

Are we not a civilized society no one needs a gun least of all an assault rifle. A loved one is more likely to be killed by the gun you forget to lock up than by a home invader.

The reason so many Americans get shot, is because so many Americans have guns.

Stand your ground cases boil down to two people losing there temper and at least one grabs a gun.

The issue is how did Mateen who was under watch by the FBI twice. Why was he able to purchase a gun. The same way a terrorist on the no fly list can purchase a gun because the NRA and it's disciples called republicans block any kind of debate on guns in this country. With today's Republican Party you cannot get a bill on the floor if it just has the word gun in it. The NRA will say they determined he was a Islamic terrorist and he would have found a way.
To that I say BS there saying this because Mateen shouted about ISIS in a 911 call at the scene that makes him an opportunist not a hardened Islamic terrorist. Then the BS he wasn't devout or religious or radicalized he was a unstable and hateful fueled by the hate filled racist in this country.

Wether or not you want to label him a Muslim, he is a terrorist no different than Lanza, Robert Dear all white men that committed there killings in the name of something other than Islam.

If we had some kind of gun regulation in this country would Mateen have worked to get those guns , we'll never know because he didn't have to, and if nothing is done neither will the next shooter.

The NRA keeps boxing out any kind of gun legislation but at some point , perhaps in my lifetime or my children or my grandchildren we'll do something sensible and rid this country of guns.

I just don't know what the answer is but for the right wing to absolutely refuse to even debate any kind of gun violence is absurd. When will you wake up
Another Mass shooting but this one happens to be t... (show quote)


You are not very informed. In France they have the gun laws that you want. The Muslim Terrorists still got weapons and killed people. All you want to do is disarm your fellow citizens.

News flash, the bad guys will always gets guns. History has proven that!!!!!!!!!! I am not surprised you are an Obama voter. A low information Obama voter.

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Jun 14, 2016 07:35:14   #
PeterS
 
Hemiman wrote:
Why do you ask ?planning one are you?


I ask because Loki likes to compare a stabbings to killings by Semi-auto weapons. If we use knives to commit mass murder than it's a valid comparison...

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Jun 14, 2016 07:40:54   #
jerrymac80
 
Your anti-gun screed is hypocritical on so many levels it is hard to know where to even begin...

Let's try this; how many people were shot and/or killed in our inner cities this weekend, including Orlando but excluding this club? Do you know? Do you even give a sh!t? Better yet, how many people were shot in YOUR city this weekend?

Try this on for size...there were at least 30 shootings on Saturday and Sunday alone in Chicago and a man in New Mexico killed his wife and 4 daughters Saturday. Those are just a small sampling of the hundreds of shootings and deaths that happened this weekend that didn't make the national news, as they don't every single day.

Where is your outrage about those shootings and loss of life? Why is all your faux anger directed towards this Orlando shooting, a terrorist attack by a radical Muslim, when you are silent about the slaughter going on in your own backyard?

As I said, hypocritical on so many, many levels.

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Jun 14, 2016 07:58:25   #
PeterS
 
jerrymac80 wrote:
Your anti-gun screed is hypocritical on so many levels it is hard to know where to even begin...

Let's try this; how many people were shot and/or killed in our inner cities this weekend, including Orlando but excluding this club? Do you know? Do you even give a sh!t? Better yet, how many people were shot in YOUR city this weekend?

Try this on for size...there were at least 30 shootings on Saturday and Sunday alone in Chicago and a man in New Mexico killed his wife and 4 daughters Saturday. Those are just a small sampling of the hundreds of shootings and deaths that happened this weekend that didn't make the national news, as they don't every single day.

Where is your outrage about those shootings and loss of life? Why is all your faux anger directed towards this Orlando shooting, a terrorist attack by a radical Muslim, when you are silent about the slaughter going on in your own backyard?

As I said, hypocritical on so many, many levels.
Your anti-gun screed is hypocritical on so many le... (show quote)


First, Welcome to the board. Second, It would help to know who your indignation was directed at. If you hit "Quote Reply" at the bottom of the post you are reading it will quote the text and who wrote it. That way we can get into a heated two and fro and have some real fun...

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