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Jun 14, 2016 00:22:44   #
Hmh_461 Loc: E.St. Louis IL.
 
An assault wepon has to be fully automatic .

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Jun 14, 2016 00:29:34   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Another Mass shooting but this one happens to be the worst. I never thought you gun advocates would ever exceed 20 (6) year old kids and do nothing but here we are again and I am GD sick of yours guns especially these assault rifles.

The only thing right now that matters is what happened in Orlando when a US citizen named Omar Mateen opened fire with a semi automatic rifle at a gay bar killing 50 people. I know most right wing extremist actually like this because what the hell there gay. They have no rights anyway. They can be cured if they wanted to be cured. Remember all this crazy right wing garbage.

But by now we all know the drill, Obama addresses the nation and ask when does the madness stop. (NRA NEVER) your typical right wing thoughts and prayers, and scream terrorism (not real prayers because there gay) they have no rights. Left wing decry gun violence and we need reform(NRA NEVER) Donald Trump thank you for the congrats that I am right. Then goes on TV and blames The whole world and he can fix it in a day if he gets in office. What buffoon

At some point we have to say enough, I am and always have been far left on this issue which is why I would take away every GD gun in American if I could. We don't need assault rifles on our streets.

If we deprived Omar Mateen of his AR-15 he's just another homophobic loser. Put a AR-15 in his hand and he's a mass murderer. What disturbs me the most is how you NRA disciples knowing full well that the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for mass murders. It actually kills faster than a republican can count. But you will kiss the ground that the NRA walks on and block any kind of gun control not only that you block any debate on gun violence.

Gun lobbyist tell us that AR-15 are great for hunting I suppose that's true as long as your targets are 6 year olds in a classroom or gays at there local water hole. Then they say there're necessary for defending your home, from what a GD army. It's foolish talk.

Are we not a civilized society no one needs a gun least of all an assault rifle. A loved one is more likely to be killed by the gun you forget to lock up than by a home invader.

The reason so many Americans get shot, is because so many Americans have guns.

Stand your ground cases boil down to two people losing there temper and at least one grabs a gun.

The issue is how did Mateen who was under watch by the FBI twice. Why was he able to purchase a gun. The same way a terrorist on the no fly list can purchase a gun because the NRA and it's disciples called republicans block any kind of debate on guns in this country. With today's Republican Party you cannot get a bill on the floor if it just has the word gun in it. The NRA will say they determined he was a Islamic terrorist and he would have found a way.
To that I say BS there saying this because Mateen shouted about ISIS in a 911 call at the scene that makes him an opportunist not a hardened Islamic terrorist. Then the BS he wasn't devout or religious or radicalized he was a unstable and hateful fueled by the hate filled racist in this country.

Wether or not you want to label him a Muslim, he is a terrorist no different than Lanza, Robert Dear all white men that committed there killings in the name of something other than Islam.

If we had some kind of gun regulation in this country would Mateen have worked to get those guns , we'll never know because he didn't have to, and if nothing is done neither will the next shooter.

The NRA keeps boxing out any kind of gun legislation but at some point , perhaps in my lifetime or my children or my grandchildren we'll do something sensible and rid this country of guns.

I just don't know what the answer is but for the right wing to absolutely refuse to even debate any kind of gun violence is absurd. When will you wake up
Another Mass shooting but this one happens to be t... (show quote)


Whether we need more guns or not is immaterial. There's gonna be a bunch more guns (stocks are already up) thanks to the idiots who want to tear down our borders and PAY every fruitcake in the world come here to cause mayhem.

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Jun 14, 2016 00:33:09   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Hmh_461 wrote:
An assault wepon has to be fully automatic .


Don't bother. The leftist dictionary reserves the right to make words mean whatever they want.

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Jun 14, 2016 00:36:13   #
PeterS
 
tdsrnest wrote:
I just don't know what the answer is but for the right wing to absolutely refuse to even debate any kind of gun violence is absurd. When will you wake up


They won't. They live under the illusion that the 'govment' is out to get them and the only thing that can protect them is their guns. They are guided by ignorance and fear and the entire country must pay. When will they wake up? Never. Cowboys and gunslingers never give up their guns--they only buy more and bitch that they don't have enough...

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Jun 14, 2016 00:38:26   #
PeterS
 
Hmh_461 wrote:
An assault wepon has to be fully automatic .

Than lets just make it all semi-auto and automatic weapons okay...

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Jun 14, 2016 00:39:40   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Yup protect the gun and the hell with kids and people. You are the terrorist in this country it's called the GOP because all you care about is your guns what a disgrace for human being you are.


Don't be frightened turd Donald will take care of you.

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Jun 14, 2016 00:49:00   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
archie bunker wrote:
Define assault weapon.



[" Assault weapon is a term used in the United States to define some types of firearms. The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip, and sometimes other features such as a flash suppressor or barrel shroud. Some firearms are specified by name. At the time that the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban passed in 1994, the U.S. Justice Department said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use." The origin of the term is muddled and has been attributed to politicians, gun control groups, the media, and the firearms industry itself. It is sometimes conflated with the term "assault rifle", which refers to selective-fire military rifles that can fire in automatic and / or burst mode."]

An assault weapon could be any semi-automatic gun or rifle that has a clip that can hold more than 5 rounds.

When Obama says keeping assault weapons out of civilians hands he is referring to all semi-automatic weapons. Only single shot bolt action rifles, double barrel shotguns, and pistols would be legal.

Again Obama seems to purposely use a term that confuses the public into thinking that if we ban assault weapons we get these assault Rifles out of the hands of the terrorist that are doing these mass shootings. In reality he is vastly wanting to diminishing the firepower of the citizens needing to protect themselves, their families, their homes, and their country...

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Jun 14, 2016 00:52:05   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Ferrous wrote:
[" Assault weapon is a term used in the United States to define some types of firearms. The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip, and sometimes other features such as a flash suppressor or barrel shroud. Some firearms are specified by name. At the time that the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban passed in 1994, the U.S. Justice Department said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use." The origin of the term is muddled and has been attributed to politicians, gun control groups, the media, and the firearms industry itself. It is sometimes conflated with the term "assault rifle", which refers to selective-fire military rifles that can fire in automatic and / or burst mode."]

An assault weapon could be any semi-automatic gun or rifle that has a clip that can hold more than 5 rounds.

When Obama says keeping assault weapons out of civilians hands he is referring to all semi-automatic weapons. Only single shot bolt action rifles, double barrel shotguns, and pistols would be legal.

Again Obama seems to purposely use a term that confuses the public into thinking that if we ban assault weapons we get these assault Rifles out of the hands of the terrorist that are doing these mass shootings. In reality he is vastly wanting to diminishing the firepower of the citizens needing to protect themselves, their families, their homes, and their country...
" Assault weapon is a term used in the Unite... (show quote)


Absolutely correct.

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Jun 14, 2016 00:52:54   #
Boneyfingers
 
Have any of you noticed these mass shootings are all done at "soft targets" ? Places where the victims are not permitted to
take their guns, whether they are pro gun or not.
What needs to be done to stop this stuff is to eliminate ALL gun free zones, and allow anyone to have their gun if they want to.
The shootings will stop because the shooter will not know who has a gun and who doesn't ..
Referring to the grade school episode: The teachers should be armed, if they wish.
So, in the final analysis, the problem is not too many guns, it is that there are not enough guns.

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Jun 14, 2016 01:00:03   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
tdsrnest wrote:
You just don't get it and you could care less you selfish piece of shit I wish you were in that bar just to see the shit that you support. Take your legislators thoughts and prayers and stick it up your ass.


Is this the part where you wish for my children, and grandchildren get killed with paperweights, and doorstops?
Do we really need to do this again Tom? Really?
Even with your roadside park restroom pal Peter here, (isn't his name appropriate) you will be crushed again! We have done this before. Remember Mr. Delaney?

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Jun 14, 2016 01:00:27   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Yup protect the gun and the hell with kids and people. You are the terrorist in this country it's called the GOP because all you care about is your guns what a disgrace for human being you are.




You are redlining turd, soon you will blow what's left of your mind.Ask the attendant for a cracker and go to your room.



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Jun 14, 2016 01:07:22   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
They won't. They live under the illusion that the 'govment' is out to get them and the only thing that can protect them is their guns. They are guided by ignorance and fear and the entire country must pay. When will they wake up? Never. Cowboys and gunslingers never give up their guns--they only buy more and bitch that they don't have enough...


What protects us is the Constitution.

Wake up? To what? The fact that our Constitution is an impediment to puffed-up liberals and their lofty idealism? We know that.

You should wake up...and grow up. Your disdainful generalizations are the reason that zealot was able to murder so many in Orlando. We are at war and the enemy is bringing it to our streets.

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Jun 14, 2016 01:08:39   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
Than lets just make it all semi-auto and automatic weapons okay...


No.

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Jun 14, 2016 01:09:45   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Ferrous wrote:
[" Assault weapon is a term used in the United States to define some types of firearms. The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip, and sometimes other features such as a flash suppressor or barrel shroud. Some firearms are specified by name. At the time that the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban passed in 1994, the U.S. Justice Department said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use." The origin of the term is muddled and has been attributed to politicians, gun control groups, the media, and the firearms industry itself. It is sometimes conflated with the term "assault rifle", which refers to selective-fire military rifles that can fire in automatic and / or burst mode."]

An assault weapon could be any semi-automatic gun or rifle that has a clip that can hold more than 5 rounds.

When Obama says keeping assault weapons out of civilians hands he is referring to all semi-automatic weapons. Only single shot bolt action rifles, double barrel shotguns, and pistols would be legal.

Again Obama seems to purposely use a term that confuses the public into thinking that if we ban assault weapons we get these assault Rifles out of the hands of the terrorist that are doing these mass shootings. In reality he is vastly wanting to diminishing the firepower of the citizens needing to protect themselves, their families, their homes, and their country...
" Assault weapon is a term used in the Unite... (show quote)


So my Ruger Mini 14 with a 10 round magazine that looks just like a gun any redneck might shoot coyotes with, but shoots the same cartridge, semi auto style as the AR 15 is an assault weapon?
Who woulda thunk it?

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Jun 14, 2016 01:48:26   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
archie bunker wrote:
So my Ruger Mini 14 with a 10 round magazine that looks just like a gun any redneck might shoot coyotes with, but shoots the same cartridge, semi auto style as the AR 15 is an assault weapon?
Who woulda thunk it?


That's the misconception when Obama uses the term assault weapon instead of assault rifle... He crafts his words to deceive. Look at all the things he said about Obama Care in conning the American people.

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