We spy on everyone because...
straightUp wrote:
Can anyone come up with a good reason why our government has to spy on EVERYONE? Is this because of the STUPID war against terrorism? If so, is it worth loosing the trust of our allies?
World leaders all over the world are just finding out that the NSA has been spying on them and their citizens for years. Not exactly a gesture of friendship and trust. More like a gesture of global totalitarianism on the make. So... I'm relying on the conservatives on this site who have always been advocates of our behavior on the international stage to explain WHY this sort of eves-dropping is so damned necessary.
http://www.businessinsider.com/european-leaders-say-latest-spying-revelations-have-destroyed-their-trust-in-the-us-government-2013-10Can anyone come up with a good reason why our gove... (
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To give up freedom for security ultimately ends up with you having neither.
I don't care what anyone says the NSA can shuff their BS up their patriot act. They it's wrong but their paranoia won't let them see the truth.
Damn I missed that obit! So what is China? Communism is far from dead.
lpnmajor wrote:
in case you missed it, communism died some time ago
It's about control. As Darpa's slogan says 'Scientia est Potentia'. Secular Knowledge is Power. The market manipulation in Brazil shows that this information doesn't exist in an anti-terror vacuum. Just because it has been going on forever does not mean that it is right that it continue The moral instability of Washington is good enough reason to discontinue these practices and are also why they won't be discontinued.
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
To give up freedom for security ultimately ends up with you having neither.
I don't care what anyone says the NSA can shuff their BS up their patriot act. They it's wrong but their paranoia won't let them see the truth.
Don't get me wrong I have read The Art of War it is essential to know what your enemies are doing but when you've tapped I to your citizens phones and computers and all if your friends friends friends you have gone over the edge.
China is not our friend and when they no longer need us their will be war and then we will see who has learned what from whom and will our friends still be our friends.
Spying on American citizens/Patriot Act/home invasions sound familiar>Remember Nazi Germany, I do believe it will happen in America too. The cold war never ended, just different players!!! All countries spy on each other or they lose out to secrets, technology and financial gamesmanship> WW3 is imminent>history repeats itself>WW1/Depression, WW2/Great Depression, and so on. WW3/Depopulation/New World Order is a comin!!!! Read the book the 4th Reich or visit Youtube/Rothschilds 500 Trillion (2 hr version) to learn that the Puppet Masters (1% Elites) are the Power n Control) of Europe/USA n our allies!!! It a ponzi scheme that financially Will be the end of us!!! They make money off BOTH sides of war!!!
Communism/Fascism/Marxism/Islamism/Capitalism etc are all forms of enslavement. U just have to decide which country u want to be in when the Shit hits the fan. WW3 is imminent!!!
Except in China/lol!!!! Venezuela/Cuba n a few others are heading that way too!!!
If anyone thinks the Brits (in 18th c.) were more oppressive than our government is now is sorely mistaken. Lines have been crossed...
bmac32 wrote:
Damn I missed that obit! So what is China? Communism is far from dead.
no, china is a capitalist state using communist dogma to keep power in the hands of a priviledged few. Not true communism.
Richard Griffith wrote:
Spying on American citizens/Patriot Act/home invasions sound familiar>Remember Nazi Germany, I do believe it will happen in America too. The cold war never ended, just different players!!! All countries spy on each other or they lose out to secrets, technology and financial gamesmanship> WW3 is imminent>history repeats itself>WW1/Depression, WW2/Great Depression, and so on. WW3/Depopulation/New World Order is a comin!!!! Read the book the 4th Reich or visit Youtube/Rothschilds 500 Trillion (2 hr version) to learn that the Puppet Masters (1% Elites) are the Power n Control) of Europe/USA n our allies!!! It a ponzi scheme that financially Will be the end of us!!! They make money off BOTH sides of war!!!
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sounds like the illuminati
When why do they reffer to China as Red China? China has been a communist country since 1949.
lpnmajor wrote:
no, china is a capitalist state using communist dogma to keep power in the hands of a priviledged few. Not true communism.
bmac32 wrote:
When why do they reffer to China as Red China? China has been a communist country since 1949.
so red states are communists?
boofhead wrote:
We went mad after 9/11 and put in the insane Patriot Act, Homeland Security, TSA etc etc and now the system is so big it drives itself. It has never foiled a plot (those shown as successful were invariably setups). Spying is just a part of the insanity. Especially spying on our allies.
That is a good way to put it.
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straightUp wrote:
Can anyone come up with a good reason why our government has to spy on EVERYONE? Is this because of the STUPID war against terrorism? If so, is it worth loosing the trust of our allies?
World leaders all over the world are just finding out that the NSA has been spying on them and their citizens for years. Not exactly a gesture of friendship and trust. More like a gesture of global totalitarianism on the make. So... I'm relying on the conservatives on this site who have always been advocates of our behavior on the international stage to explain WHY this sort of eves-dropping is so damned necessary.
http://www.businessinsider.com/european-leaders-say-latest-spying-revelations-have-destroyed-their-trust-in-the-us-government-2013-10Can anyone come up with a good reason why our gove... (
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Could we start with correct spelling? It would be eavesdropping.
So only "conservatives" support this. R E A L L Y - NOT. You obviously have failed to at any time to read the number of posts where many "conservatives" have stated they opposed the Patriot Act when it was passed and still oppose it. Acknowledging such posts would not work for your point. Now, if you want to talk about Diane Feinstein, that screaming "conservative" who has repetitively and publicly declared we must continue with this program, have at it. Of course, Nancy Pelosi has been working her _____est to make the NSA stop their activities to no avail. In this instance, it is both sides.
Beyond your usual it is all conservatives fault logic, your point is beyond excellent.
Of course, you will not like my commentary as it is mine. :roll:
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