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Apr 19, 2016 09:37:55   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Glaucon wrote:
Wanker,

You may drown in your ocean of self righteousness, but never in your milk of human kindness.

What you imagine those in need can get from the rest of us may be of comfort to you and massage your hate glands, but it is far from accurate. Obviously, you are not looking for facts, but are actively ignoring them.




You know now that I know your a female, I can understand why everything you speak of is so emotion based.
Fact is reality comes into play, and the reality of the situation is you can't base every decision on the emotion of the day. With only 55% of people paying taxes and producing in this country, these socialized programs can not be sustained, and even if they could, many are sick of paying for them.
It is OK for people to do for themselves, work hard, and be productive members of society.

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Apr 19, 2016 09:42:41   #
Glaucon
 
the waker wrote:
You know now that I know your a female, I can understand why everything you speak of is so emotion based.
Fact is reality comes into play, and the reality of the situation is you can't base every decision on the emotion of the day. With only 55% of people paying taxes and producing in this country, these socialized programs can not be sustained, and even if they could, many are sick of paying for them.
It is OK for people to do for themselves, work hard, and be productive members of society.
You know now that I know your a female, I can unde... (show quote)



Wanker, You come to false conclusions because you begin with misinformation. Are you aware of that?

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Apr 19, 2016 10:38:16   #
PawneeCounty Loc: Oklahoma USA
 
the waker wrote:
You know now that I know your a female, I can understand why everything you speak of is so emotion based.
Fact is reality comes into play, and the reality of the situation is you can't base every decision on the emotion of the day. With only 55% of people paying taxes and producing in this country, these socialized programs can not be sustained, and even if they could, many are sick of paying for them.
It is OK for people to do for themselves, work hard, and be productive members of society.
You know now that I know your a female, I can unde... (show quote)


I have been reading this thread and not commenting so it is time now. I know people on assistance who do work. Just because someone is using food stamps, or SNAP if you wish, doesn't mean they are moochers. With this stagnant economy people are forced to work part time or at a low wage job just to survive. If the economy improves (something that politicians on both sides have failed to do) then these programs will decrease in proportion to growth. Failed programs like ACA have really hurt the middle class but the lower wage workers have suffered even more. Yes there are people who abuse the programs but the majority would just as soon not have to depend on them. The problem isn't the programs it is the administration of them along with failed policy, by the Governments, both State and Federal.

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Apr 19, 2016 13:19:45   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
PawneeCounty wrote:
I have been reading this thread and not commenting so it is time now. I know people on assistance who do work. Just because someone is using food stamps, or SNAP if you wish, doesn't mean they are moochers. With this stagnant economy people are forced to work part time or at a low wage job just to survive. If the economy improves (something that politicians on both sides have failed to do) then these programs will decrease in proportion to growth. Failed programs like ACA have really hurt the middle class but the lower wage workers have suffered even more. Yes there are people who abuse the programs but the majority would just as soon not have to depend on them. The problem isn't the programs it is the administration of them along with failed policy, by the Governments, both State and Federal.
I have been reading this thread and not commenting... (show quote)


No, I agree
As I said on previous pages, I don't mind a helping hand, its the ones that treat it like a career, that don't work at all, I take issue with.
....and yes it is a failed policy that leads to this kind of abuse when people in need can't get the help, while others just abuse it.

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Apr 19, 2016 13:21:01   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Glaucon wrote:
Wanker, You come to false conclusions because you begin with misinformation. Are you aware of that?


Ok, I ll humor you. What was the misinformed information?

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Apr 19, 2016 14:03:24   #
mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma
 
Glaucon wrote:
Your mindless rage is noted. I have no idea what the "ignorant liberal doctrine" is. Clue me in.


On one post you claim to be an absolute genious while on another you pretend to be stupid. Take a look at O'dumdum who is a perfect example of "ignorant Liberal doctrine' BTW I have no idea what " mindless rage is". Clue me in. BTW since our views are at least 180 deg apart with your infinite wisdom can you accurately determine whether you disagree with me or visa versa?

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Apr 20, 2016 08:44:40   #
Glaucon
 
mouset783 wrote:
On one post you claim to be an absolute genious while on another you pretend to be stupid. Take a look at O'dumdum who is a perfect example of "ignorant Liberal doctrine' BTW I have no idea what " mindless rage is". Clue me in. BTW since our views are at least 180 deg apart with your infinite wisdom can you accurately determine whether you disagree with me or visa versa?


My question was, what is the ignorant liberal doctrine?
and you got all caught up deflecting and attacking and forgot to respond to my questions.

How is the ignorant liberal doctrine different from the ignorant conservative doctrine ?

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Apr 20, 2016 08:46:35   #
Glaucon
 
the waker wrote:
Ok, I ll humor you. What was the misinformed information?


Wanker,

The misinformed information was the information that was misinformed.

If you think you are" humoring me," you still aren't listening.

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Apr 20, 2016 12:17:12   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Glaucon wrote:
Wanker,

The misinformed information was the information that was misinformed.

If you think you are" humoring me," you still aren't listening.



Which was?
http://money.howstuffworks.com/only-53-percent-pay-income-tax.htm

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Apr 20, 2016 15:14:03   #
mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma
 
Glaucon wrote:
My question was, what is the ignorant liberal doctrine?
and you got all caught up deflecting and attacking and forgot to respond to my questions.

How is the ignorant liberal doctrine different from the ignorant conservative doctrine ?


My mistake was not realizing your limitations. I should have said ignorant liberal agenda. I have never heard of a Ignorant conservative doctrine. Is there one? I don't forget much and did not attack you however if you consider an attack on O'useless is detremental to your well being get over it. It seems the Libs are against everything that makes sense and love everything bad.If you can I would appreciate you explaining that to me. I case you need examples I Have thousands.

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Apr 20, 2016 15:17:03   #
maydaybaby Loc: SC, proud of it!!!
 
mouset783 wrote:
My mistake was not realizing your limitations. I should have said ignorant liberal agenda. I have never heard of a Ignorant conservative doctrine. Is there one? I don't forget much and did not attack you however if you consider an attack on O'useless is detremental to your well being get over it. It seems the Libs are against everything that makes sense and love everything bad.If you can I would appreciate you explaining that to me. I case you need examples I Have thousands.

That's what I've been saying....libs live in an alternate universe. If 49 conservatives say the sun is shining, one lib will swear it's raining.

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Apr 20, 2016 15:21:23   #
mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma
 
maydaybaby wrote:
That's what I've been saying....libs live in an alternate universe. If 49 conservatives say the sun is shining, one lib will swear it's raining.


Absolutely true

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Apr 20, 2016 16:16:24   #
samtheyank
 
Glaucon wrote:
My question was, what is the ignorant liberal doctrine?
and you got all caught up deflecting and attacking and forgot to respond to my questions.

How is the ignorant liberal doctrine different from the ignorant conservative doctrine ?


There is none! The Establishment does not have a doctrine. They have the power, but they are losing it. This is why Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump resonate so well with the American People. The We The People has had enough of all the garbage that has been happening for the last thirty years. They are tired of it and ready to take their country back. Both the Republicans and Democrats see this. It scares the hell out of them. The Political winds are beginning to change. NO MORE GREED AND LIES AT THE EXPENSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!! What is so funny is that they, the Establishment, do not get it. They are either clueless or in denial. Interesting times we are sailing into!

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Apr 20, 2016 16:20:02   #
mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma
 
samtheyank wrote:
There is none! The Establishment does not have a doctrine. They have the power, but they are losing it. This is why Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump resonate so well with the American People. The We The People has had enough of all the garbage that has been happening for the last thirty years. They are tired of it and ready to take their country back. Both the Republicans and Democrats see this. It scares the hell out of them. The Political winds are beginning to change. NO MORE GREED AND LIES AT THE EXPENSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!! What is so funny is that they, the Establishment, do not get it. They are either clueless or in denial. Interesting times we are sailing into!
There is none! The Establishment does not have a d... (show quote)


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