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Sep 18, 2013 10:13:25   #
mohadib
 
JFlorio wrote:
Completely wrong. Only two states have seen a drop in the rate of increase in premiums and that rate increase was an Obama administration projection. Of course this act affects everyone. Doctors are getting out, IRS is getting involved the price of the bill has now doubled from what Obama said and companies are going to part time workers so they don't get mandated out of business. Obamacare will not work because it does not address the root cause of our healthcare problem, cost. No one is trying to get soaring healthcare costs under control.quote=mohadib]From what I understand Obamacare wouldn't affect the majority of the population just those that can afford insurance and don't have it and those that would need help in acquiring insurance and from what I have been reading the states that have implemented the affordable health care act have seen a drop in premium costs.
Completely wrong. Only two states have seen a drop... (show quote)
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I disagree several of your points. How many states have implemented Obamacare? Who do you think pays when a person uses the emergency room at the hospital and doesn't have health coverage?There are 30 million people without health insurance and a great number are people who work and can't afford it,this plan would help them acquire health coverage.

As far as the fox news talking points about doctors leaving and IRS taxes and blah blah woof woof.

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Sep 18, 2013 10:16:45   #
mohadib
 
Geno36 wrote:
When the gov't controls healthcare you can bet you bippy it will affect EVERYONE.


C'mon people on the right are so full of hatred for anything Obama that they would be against anything without even understanding what they're upset about.

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Sep 18, 2013 10:18:23   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Those aren't Fox News talking points. I have 5 doctors in my family. I guess you are o.k. with government telling you you have to purchase something. Obamacare, according to the CBO still Leaves 15 million people un-insured and I'm sure you don't mind the cost you factor in going up because so many illegal aliens get free health care. Must be nice being a sheep until you follow all the other sheep of a cliff.
mohadib wrote:
I disagree several of your points. How many states have implemented Obamacare? Who do you think pays when a person uses the emergency room at the hospital and doesn't have health coverage?There are 30 million people without health insurance and a great number are people who work and can't afford it,this plan would help them acquire health coverage.

As far as the fox news talking points about doctors leaving and IRS taxes and blah blah woof woof.

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Sep 18, 2013 10:20:38   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
People like you are such an Obama toady it doesn't matter what he does. You follow blindly along because you worship this community organizer. Before you say it I didn't like Bush either.
mohadib wrote:
C'mon people on the right are so full of hatred for anything Obama that they would be against anything without even understanding what they're upset about.

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Sep 18, 2013 10:35:23   #
Geno36 Loc: Texas
 
mohadib wrote:
Your might be right but I would have to see a summary of those hidden taxes.


Well it's only a couple thousand pages you can dig that out for yourself.

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Sep 18, 2013 10:39:27   #
mohadib
 
Geno36 wrote:
Well it's only a couple thousand pages you can dig that out for yourself.


No thanks Geno I'll wait for the dust to settle and then maybe we can get a clear and complete idea of what we disagree about.

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Sep 19, 2013 06:18:57   #
4vbs2
 
Geno36 wrote:
Where in the constitution is it that the gov't. has any business in health care to any degree???????????


That info is in the same section that says that the government has to supply the roads that you drive on, the police force to protect you, the laws to solve the numerous problems that come up in any society.

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Sep 19, 2013 06:22:46   #
4vbs2
 
mohadib wrote:
C'mon people on the right are so full of hatred for anything Obama that they would be against anything without even understanding what they're upset about.


I agree. The vast majority of the people who complain have never looked at the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). They just read and listen to the pundits and the partisan news sites and blogs and let those sited control their mind.

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Sep 19, 2013 06:28:26   #
4vbs2
 
JFlorio wrote:
Those aren't Fox News talking points. I have 5 doctors in my family. I guess you are o.k. with government telling you you have to purchase something. Obamacare, according to the CBO still Leaves 15 million people un-insured and I'm sure you don't mind the cost you factor in going up because so many illegal aliens get free health care. Must be nice being a sheep until you follow all the other sheep of a cliff.


Did you ever stop to think that if every citizen has health care insurance, that perhaps illegal aliens would not get free health care? The government tells us that we have to do a lot of things that we may not want to do, such as drive at specific speeds or less, not murder people, pay for ideological wars (IRAQ) etc.

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Sep 19, 2013 06:30:10   #
4vbs2
 
Geno36 wrote:
Well it's only a couple thousand pages you can dig that out for yourself.


There is a summary of the bill available from the Library of Congress. You can read it or just peruse the sections that you want.

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Sep 19, 2013 06:49:39   #
Geno36 Loc: Texas
 
4vbs2 wrote:
That info is in the same section that says that the government has to supply the roads that you drive on, the police force to protect you, the laws to solve the numerous problems that come up in any society.


Those things are left to the states and the people.

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Sep 19, 2013 07:39:13   #
4vbs2
 
Geno36 wrote:
Those things are left to the states and the people.


The interstate highways? Have you personally and privately paid for any public roads?

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Sep 19, 2013 08:11:06   #
Geno36 Loc: Texas
 
4vbs2 wrote:
The interstate highways? Have you personally and privately paid for any public roads?


And where is the interstate hwy system in the constitution??

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Sep 19, 2013 08:16:01   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
Geno36 wrote:
And where is the interstate hwy system in the constitution??


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 19, 2013 08:26:53   #
mohadib
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:




Where is banning abortion in the constitution? The interstate highway system wasn't even an idea in 1776.

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