You know how the conservatards are. They are fearful of facts and hate the truth when it has the audacity to confront them. So they continue to lie and deny.
Old_Gringo wrote:
Even those writing the bill can't comprehend it. It is so confusing, convoluted and dichotomous.
Well I see why on one read it. Even my Senator admitted he didn't, his aids did orso he says.
matnc......absolutely, it's all on roberts the wacko's shoulders!! the sob sold us down the river, apparently number one wacko made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
bmac32 wrote:
It still is not Obama care.
9 parts, he was a republican working with democrats, pretty good number.
Yes, but I was merely countering the mistaken claim that Romney had any part in the writing of that Bill.
blocklanes wrote:
It's not Obummer care. Are you dense? or just stupid. It's the law, upheld by the Supreme Court.
Wacko
Sorry for your blind faith in our political structure. Their was a senator on the internet about a month ago who would not allow a bill to go forward because there was not time to read it, that by their own regulations there is to be 1 day for every 22 pages of a bill so they will be able to understand what they are voting for or against. So the obumercare law by their own regulations is null and void. If you would take a look at our constitution you would know that it is a violation for the government to pass a law to force a person to protect him or her self.
betty wrote:
Here is a question. How did 2, ooo plus pages grow to 7 plus foot tall rules. Yes...A 2000 plus page grew to 7 plus tall rules.
These are facts on size confirmed by hearing in the middle if the night on c-span.
So the who and how are very good questions. We have doctors in congress i dont think they were involved.
The how.......is ,..I write a rule saying yes, in room 1.
You write a rule saying no, in room 2.
Doors open... the secretary's put pages together an there is ,one yes on page 3.
One no, on page 5.
The left hand does not know what the right hand did.
Our problem is the american citizen is trying to read page 4.
This bag of yak laws make no common sence. The unions, ups, universety of Virginia, on an on would not be taking spouse's off there coverage policys.
Confusion is the goverments way it seems. I receive no confedence when we see waver after waver being given to large lobby represented companies. I have no lobby representative, I have one house representive. Both arizona senators are rinos for this bill.
An your right this is now a LAW. It's also afact we have a lawful way to change an amend laws. That is what you are seeing now. This is to be the american way.
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so far two in Georgia 4th district have not committed to defund this bill along with the turncoat speaker
rightlean wrote:
Here's a plan: don't work for Wal-Mart.
But wait! Wrong subject. Who wrote Obamacare?
Not working for Walmart will not stop taxpayers from paying for their employees meals and health care.
Romneycare was the blueprint for Obamacare. Mitt Romney's administration worked with the Obama Whitehouse on OC.
TheCracker wrote:
Breath deep Poco. You need to improve your pp02...
It is the socialist position to take from the hard working and give the rewards of their efforts to the worthless who do not want to work.
That is called socialism and you are obviously suffering from the advanced stages of it.
That alone makes you a racist, so repent !!!!
Wow! You really do not know your own party is capable of. Besides, Socialist take from the rich, not the poor.
cimiron wrote:
so far two in Georgia 4th district have not committed to defund this bill along with the turncoat speaker
sure you don't mean the esteemed Lt. Governor, aka the "Human Monkey Wrench?"
Poco624 wrote:
Not working for Walmart will not stop taxpayers from paying for their employees meals and health care.
Romneycare was the blueprint for Obamacare. Mitt Romney's administration worked with the Obama Whitehouse on OC.
It was a blueprint, it was a blueprint, so was the Model-T and we don't drive them today.
bmac32 wrote:
It was a blueprint, it was a blueprint, so was the Model-T and we don't drive them today.
A blueprint is a detailed plan of action for just about anything from writing computer programs, building houses or laying out a room. It is just a plan of action and nothing more. I don't get the comparison of a blueprint to a Model-T when talking about RC or OC unless you are saying that is is obsolete. I am sure a blueprint was used to build the Model-T.
Mitt Romney and his administration had the idea for Romenycare and shared those ideas with the Obama White House.
This is an article that will explain the differences between RC and OC. If you don't want to read it don't -- that is your prerogative.
RomneyCare vs. ObamaCare - Which Is Better?
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/health/health_stew/2012/08/romneycare_vs_obamacare_which.html
Poco624 wrote:
A blueprint is a detailed plan of action for just about anything from writing computer programs, building houses or laying out a room. It is just a plan of action and nothing more. I don't get the comparison of a blueprint to a Model-T when talking about RC or OC unless you are saying that is is obsolete. I am sure a blueprint was used to build the Model-T.
Mitt Romney and his administration had the idea for Romenycare and shared those ideas with the Obama White House.
This is an article that will explain the differences between RC and OC. If you don't want to read it don't -- that is your prerogative.
RomneyCare vs. ObamaCare - Which Is Better?
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/health/health_stew/2012/08/romneycare_vs_obamacare_which.htmlA blueprint is a detailed plan of action for just ... (
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The comparsion is both will beyou from point A to B.
National vs state run,nice idea but the FEDS have a track record of screwing things up, Post Office comes to mind.
How many people did not have insurance in Mass? How many in the whole country?
You can keep your doctor if you like them. Flat out lie!
Your preimun will go down about $2500. Another lie!
Death panels, not in Ronmey care.
The IRS will administer, not in Romney care.
So now rather than a plan administrator running the plan we get a group of non medical deciding the who's, what's, when's and if's. Gives complete control of YOUR medical to Washington. Is this what you truely want?
bmac32 wrote:
The comparsion is both will beyou from point A to B.
National vs state run,nice idea but the FEDS have a track record of screwing things up, Post Office comes to mind.
How many people did not have insurance in Mass? How many in the whole country?
You can keep your doctor if you like them. Flat out lie!
Your preimun will go down about $2500. Another lie!
Death panels, not in Ronmey care.
The IRS will administer, not in Romney care.
So now rather than a plan administrator running the plan we get a group of non medical deciding the who's, what's, when's and if's. Gives complete control of YOUR medical to Washington. Is this what you truely want?
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Wow! Why are you assailing me, I am just the messager? I guess you don't like the message.
The IRS is involved because they know what a persons income is and OC premiums are based on a persons ability to pay. Believe me the IRS will not be keeping track of a persons medical records, they have too many other jobs to do. If they did they would have to double their employees and that is just not going to happen.
Seriously, you must really be uncomfortable today. Are you wearing you skinny pants and little fairy shoes?
Poco624 wrote:
Wow! Why are you assailing me, I am just the messager? I guess you don't like the message.
The IRS is involved because they know what a persons income is and OC premiums are based on a persons ability to pay. Believe me the IRS will not be keeping track of a persons medical records, they have too many other jobs to do. If they did they would have to double their employees and that is just not going to happen.
Seriously, you must really be uncomfortable today. Are you wearing you skinny pants and little fairy shoes?
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So are you saying you don't mind being lied too?
You TRUST the IRS with your medical records?
The US has the finest medical in the world and we throw it away for a system that we already knows will end up like the UK's. The system needs tweats but too scrap the whole thing is dumb.
BTW insults make you look childish.
Hmmm....I would question that the US has the finest medical in the world.
Some of the best medical technology yes but in terms of the medical delivery to it's citizens it is one of the worst in the western world.
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