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Feb 5, 2015 17:11:23   #
Kevyn
 
straightUp wrote:
To all the liberals on One Political Plaza who advocate (or even agree with) Marxism. Please stand up and be recognized.

Don't worry this isn't McCarthy here and most of you are anonymous on this site anyway. I've just been hearing so much about you lately but it's all coming from your freedom-loving opponents. I know there aren't a lot of liberals here but you've ALL been accused. So, why don't you stand up and say something?

You see, every communist movement I have so far read about features a very pronounced loyalty to the ideas that define communism. So I don't understand why the American communist movement is so... quiet.

Can anyone explain this?
To all the liberals on One Political Plaza who adv... (show quote)

Most of the folks screaming about communism on OPP wouldn't recognize a communist if one bit them in the ass. The folks here understand communism to be any regulation of industry or business, obviously they are dillusional. Taxation and regulation have nothing to do with communism, communism is the government or people collectively owning and benefiting from all property and means of production. No one I am aware of on OPP has promoted or advocated for communism or Marxism

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Feb 5, 2015 17:32:47   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Give power back to the states where it belongs
straightUp wrote:
I don't think it matters who you vote for. Either you vote for one of the two big parties which both inflate the government, or you use your vote as a symbolic "no", in which case you just let others decide which of the two Big Parties will get to inflate the government next.

For better or worse I think Big Government is the natural result of a Big Democracy. We have over 300 million people in this country.

Maybe the answer is to break the democracy up into smaller countries. We might get better representation that way. I dunno... You're asking a Big Question.
I don't think it matters who you vote for. Either ... (show quote)

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Feb 5, 2015 17:47:24   #
MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
straightUp wrote:
One hand you're using political parties to connect ideologies across history and on the other hand you're admitting that political parties change their stripes. Yes, the Democrats supported slavery and almost all the KKK were Democrats but the stripes they were wearing at the time were the stripes of conservatism. The Republicans for the most part, represented the liberals in the North with their big cities and talk about equality. Even the Progressive movement sprung from the Republican Party while negotiating deals with workers in the industrial North. But you're right, the Democrats did change their stripes... but not until after WW2 when they started to support issues in civil rights which really pissed off their Southern conservative constituents, triggering factions like the "Dixiecrats". Then came Barry Goldwater, Richard Nixon and their "Southern Strategy" where they played on the racist sentiments of Southern conservatives and successfully converted them into Republicans where they still preserve their racist bullshit to this day.

So yes, political parties change their stripes... So don't use election-driven parties to connect deep-rooted ideologies. In fact, getting back to your response to my comment about equal rights being my agenda. I didn't say it was the Democratic agenda, I said it was MY agenda. That's a significant difference because I'm not even a Democrat.
One hand you're using political parties to connect... (show quote)



Straight up I'm not disagreeing with you one bit. The only thing that pisses me off is the Democrats or progressives or whatever the hell they are this month always play the race card when anyone disagrees with them. Bob Byrd was in the KKK for years but not a peep out of the dems on him. Straight up I'm a black man with Jewish ancestry. My mother is Jewish and I used to catch hell in the service but I'm not wanting a shoulder I'm letting you know that you seem pretty reasonable, I don't care what party someone belongs to if they aren't lemmings and use their heads. When I was passed over for a promotion I knew the reason but instead of cry racism I tried twice as hard as the next guy so if I was passed over again I had a legitimate complaint. I know this has nothing to do with your original question I just wanted to know that my comment about the civil war could be argued two ways, " states rights" or " slavery". Personally I never was one don't know any or anyone that owned any. I've been called an uncle tom, oreo, white mans boy hell you name it just because I don't and won't tow the dem. line. I think you have some good thought provoking questions and your alright, for a progressive lol, just short sheeting you. Take care and GOD BLESS you and yours

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Feb 5, 2015 17:55:12   #
Glaucon
 
I think this is an example of the fact that you can find someone who says whatever you want to hear. This is nonsense and not to worry. Marxism was a failure and it is as dead as a sidewalk.

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Feb 5, 2015 18:04:00   #
Glaucon
 
jimahrens wrote:
Give power back to the states where it belongs


Who or what would be giving what power back the states? What power and who took it or where did it go? We have a Congress of people we have chosen, we have a president that, except for one time, has been elected by our voting citizens and we have a Supreme court to decide what is constitutional. I think you are saying our Constitution hasn't worked and you want some power or leader to override or Constitution.

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Feb 5, 2015 18:13:27   #
Glaucon
 
MajorAhrens wrote:
Glaucon, are you that dense that you thought anything I posted had to do with the question straight up asked? Please tell me you didn't take what I said seriously. I was merely injecting nonsensical sentences in a post. I bet three of my buddies on here I could say mere gobbledygook on a post that anyone in their right mind knows was a red Herring. But the one thing I put in there was true, the marxists in America aren't organized. And I thought you were in academia. You see the kinds of papers our college kids are getting away with. Come on man, use your head besides something to put a gat on
Glaucon, are you that dense that you thought anyth... (show quote)


Are you saying you posted some things you understand are crazy because it was some kind of joke and you didn't really mean it? I see I have wasted some time responding to the comments you didn't really mean to be taken seriously. And the on thing that you apparently meant as other than a joke was that the Marxists in America are not organized. I don't think they lack organization, the problem is that they will not be able to get organized until another one turns up. In the mean time, bless your little heart.

What do you mean, to get a gat on? How many papers college kids are getting away with have you read lately?

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Feb 5, 2015 18:15:38   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Read the Constitution in fact it is illegal for fed to collect taxes, check it out . you always tell us how smart you are.
Glaucon wrote:
Who or what would be giving what power back the states? What power and who took it or where did it go? We have a Congress of people we have chosen, we have a president that, except for one time, has been elected by our voting citizens and we have a Supreme court to decide what is constitutional. I think you are saying our Constitution hasn't worked and you want some power or leader to override or Constitution.

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Feb 5, 2015 18:18:15   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
Glauson you are waste of time why should it matter?
Glaucon wrote:
Are you saying you posted some things you understand are crazy because it was some kind of joke and you didn't really mean it? I see I have wasted some time responding to the comments you didn't really mean to be taken seriously. And the on thing that you apparently meant as other than a joke was that the Marxists in America are not organized. I don't think they lack organization, the problem is that they will not be able to get organized until another one turns up. In the mean time, bless your little heart.

What do you mean, to get a gat on? How many papers college kids are getting away with have you read lately?
Are you saying you posted some things you understa... (show quote)

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Feb 5, 2015 18:24:09   #
Glaucon
 
jimahrens wrote:
Read the Constitution in fact it is illegal for fed to collect taxes, check it out . you always tell us how smart you are.


OMG!! You have to report the fact to our Supreme Court that the feds are collecting taxes when our Constitution says it is illegal for them to do that. The Supreme Court will be surprised, but perhaps they were unaware of this violation and they should be informed. Since you are the only one who is aware of this violation, it is your responsibility to be the one to inform them. Please do so before April 15, I don't want pay my taxes if it is not required that I do so.

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Feb 5, 2015 18:26:30   #
Glaucon
 
jimahrens wrote:
Read the Constitution in fact it is illegal for fed to collect taxes, check it out . you always tell us how smart you are.
Do you think the members of our Supreme Court have failed to read our Constitution?

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Feb 5, 2015 18:28:00   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
You worry about taxes unlikely
Glaucon wrote:
OMG!! You have to report the fact to our Supreme Court that the feds are collecting taxes when our Constitution says it is illegal for them to do that. The Supreme Court will be surprised, but perhaps they were unaware of this violation and they should be informed. Since you are the only one who is aware of this violation, it is your responsibility to be the one to inform them. Please do so before April 15, I don't want pay my taxes if it is not required that I do so.

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Feb 5, 2015 18:28:56   #
Glaucon
 
jimahrens wrote:
You worry about taxes unlikely
You were able to miss the point of my comment.

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Feb 5, 2015 18:32:02   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
I did not miss point you seem to be like most liberals beat down a post but never take time to do the research to find out if it is true. Just piss and moan.
Glaucon wrote:
You were able to miss the point of my comment.

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Feb 5, 2015 18:34:08   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
jimahrens wrote:
Read the Constitution in fact it is illegal for fed to collect taxes, check it out . you always tell us how smart you are.


I do...routinely....
perhaps you missed the 16th Amendment.

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Feb 5, 2015 18:35:40   #
MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
Glaucon wrote:
Are you saying you posted some things you understand are crazy because it was some kind of joke and you didn't really mean it? I see I have wasted some time responding to the comments you didn't really mean to be taken seriously. And the on thing that you apparently meant as other than a joke was that the Marxists in America are not organized. I don't think they lack organization, the problem is that they will not be able to get organized until another one turns up. In the mean time, bless your little heart.

What do you mean, to get a gat on? How many papers college kids are getting away with have you read lately?
Are you saying you posted some things you understa... (show quote)


Glaucon, your chip must get awful heavy. Your an angry mad at the world nigger. I will not give someone like you the honor of being called a black man. You think the white man owes you your racist to the core,( just look at the posts you put up), and you think because your a nigger you're entitled to whatever you want. You have never posted anything with any humor in it you want people to take you serious but your a buffoon. Say what you want because after I graduated college, ( football scholarship), that's when my adventures took off. I'm sorry you're so miserable that all you see is racism and the evil white man on every corner. You're a sad, sad little man.

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