rebelwidacoz Loc: Illinois

He more or less reminds me of a terrorist cell seed, a plant harboring and waiting and executing what his primary purpose for being a planted republican seed amongst the democrats doing what he was intended to do - sabotage ;his latest reasons for not supporting Biden just about confirms it .I can understand why he didn't support the infrastructure bill or for that matter the BBB initiative ; that would be a fiscal conservative ,understandable ,but what objections would he have against fellow American citizen having or excercising their constitutional given right to cast their ballots -this seems rather reminiscent of by gone era's of Jim Crow.

It is the case that being a member of the Democratic party ,or the Republican party for that matter carries with it certain monetary amenities and privileges [I thought ] having said that ,why is or does Manchin continue to be held in good stead within the democratic party when he continues to disavow the principles and values the democratic party holds in high esteem , why isn't he cast out, and stripped of any acompanying amenities that goes with it - and to ask a further question - what is the whips job.

Unintended Consequences

Ditto!!!

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

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WEBCO

Just what principles and values does the Democratic Party have?

Other than going full woke, stupid, anti American, and Marxist I don't see any.

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

Manchin might would actually vote for one or both of the voter bills. But he will not vote to blow up the filibuster. If the voter bills are so good then get 10 republicans to support it. if you can't do that then the bills likely suck for America as a whole.

rebelwidacoz Loc: Illinois

OH MY ! a picture is worth a thousand words ,this denotes how you feel about Manchin's party's ( only name sake) ideas- Darling.

vernon

Anybody with any sense would be against giving the federal government control of elections. The whole idea behind it was to give the govt over to the demorats for ever. Now nyou know how nwe felt about that damn \
John McCane.

River Reb Loc: MS Delta

You may be right. He appears to be much too smart to be a democrat.

son of witless

When John McCain opposed his party Leftists praised him as courageous. Sen. Manchin if he sticks to his guns will go down in American History as the man who fought against voter fraud.

rebelwidacoz Loc: Illinois

.......the same principles and values that the constitution has. The phrase woke is used in a context that smacks of the same mentality that most Trump minded people have -convoluted .Trump people describe the term and have a different conception of what it signifies - to most sane thinking people , that is a person that has become enlightened , cognizant , even in its strictess sense ,it means to wake up from sleep - and can have religion aspects such as a born again Christian. The phrase has positive connotations ; with the Trump people they promote a person that is as such as evil - fiend like,as a Devil's advocate - it is wrong to be honest as oppose to be profit mongering,it is wrong to be compassionate as oppose to being callous ,it is wrong to be altruistic as opposed to being selfish and nationalistic .

WEBCO

The Democratic Party was/is the party of division and racism. They have never supported the American values, as I see them, or the Constitution. Their "voting rights" bill flies in the face of the constitution. They value identity politics which flies in the face of "equality" which is an American value.

I agree that being woke is like a religion. People who are woke don't believe in science or common sense. They believe that a person's feelings are more important than truth. That America is systemically racist, which is demonstrativly false. They believe in non binary people. They believe that they can change the meaning of words. That racism, called "anti rascism" isn't still racism. And that anti fascism, using fascist tactics, is actually fighting fascism. That the end justifies the means, and they are wrong.

Being from the left coast it doesn't surprise me that you believe being woke has positive connotations, most of America knows the opposite to be true.

vernon

Just what is your coz?

rebelwidacoz Loc: Illinois

where in the hell did " YOU PEOPLE" get that definition of the word WOKE. The word in it self is a conjugation of the verb wake which principally means to arise from type of hybernation or sleep,one should prefer to be awoke as oppose to sleep.

Unintended Consequences

"that America is systemically racist, which is demonstrativly false." So demonstrate for me that the USA is not systemically racist. First of all note that we use America to mean the USA, disregarding the fact that Canada, Mexico, Central and South America are part of AMERICA

WEBCO

From the people who claim to being woke espousing these ideas and beliefs. Where did you get your idea of what woke means?

If I'm wrong please correct me.