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Dec 20, 2020 17:07:26   #
American Vet
 
rumitoid wrote:
Haha, what did I lie about? Always the false, baseless accusations.


Earlier you posted “and every year at least three of their attempts are crushed by SCOTUS as being unconstitutional or racist.”.

So you need to post evidence that every year this has occurred - 3 times. You make the claim - you support it.

Or, you just admit you are telling a lie.

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Dec 20, 2020 17:11:54   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Larry Joe wrote:
Thousands of sworn affidavits? No evidence? What is the Democrat motto? “See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil”?
Larry Joe


https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-204557-1.html

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Dec 20, 2020 17:30:33   #
moldyoldy
 
Larry Joe wrote:
Moldy, wouldn’t you agree that dtucker’s article puts an end to this argument for any intelligent person?
Larry Joe


Still waiting for him to make a sensible comment.

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Dec 20, 2020 17:31:20   #
Larry Joe
 
moldyoldy wrote:
That does not bother me. What you don’t see is the impediments put in place to make it difficult for many people. Many city dwellers do not drive, they use public transportation, therefore no license. Many southern states closed DMVs the same way they closed polling places. Purging is another tactic. Juan Garcia is registered in ten different counties. They all get purged, but they are all different people. The same thing does not happen to John smith.


Moldy, your comments were answered by dtucker’s article, which as dtucker said, you wouldn’t respond. I understand, facts defeats your false arguments. All I want is for Congress to implement the 2002 Jimmy Carter-Jim Baker Election Reform Recommendations. And we need to move on from this election.
Larry Joe

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Dec 20, 2020 17:34:53   #
moldyoldy
 
American Vet wrote:
Earlier you posted “and every year at least three of their attempts are crushed by SCOTUS as being unconstitutional or racist.”.

So you need to post evidence that every year this has occurred - 3 times. You make the claim - you support it.

Or, you just admit you are telling a lie.


How about this election.

After the 2020 United States presidential election, the campaign for incumbent President Donald Trump and others filed over fifty lawsuits[1][2][3] contesting election processes, vote counting, and the vote certification process in multiple states, including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.[4] Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped due to lack of evidence;[5] judges, lawyers, and other observers described the suits as "frivolous"[6] and "without merit".[7]

Trump, his attorneys, and his supporters falsely[8] asserted widespread election fraud in public statements, though few such assertions were made in court.[9] In one instance, the Trump campaign and other groups seeking his election collectively lost multiple cases in six states on one day.[10] Every state except Wisconsin[11] met the December 8 statutory "safe harbor" deadline to resolve disputes and certify voting results. The Trump legal team had said it would not consider this election certification deadline as an expiration date for its litigation of the election results.[12][13][14] Three days after it was filed by Texas attorney general Ken Paxton, the Supreme Court on December 11 declined to hear a case supported by Trump and his Republican allies asking for electoral votes in four states to be rejected.[15]

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Dec 20, 2020 17:39:52   #
moldyoldy
 
Larry Joe wrote:
Thousands of sworn affidavits? No evidence? What is the Democrat motto? “See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil”?
Larry Joe


We saw an example of those people sitting with Rudy while he was trying to shut her up.

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Dec 20, 2020 17:40:06   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
How about this election.

After the 2020 United States presidential election, the campaign for incumbent President Donald Trump and others filed over fifty lawsuits[1][2][3] contesting election processes, vote counting, and the vote certification process in multiple states, including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.[4] Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped due to lack of evidence;[5] judges, lawyers, and other observers described the suits as "frivolous"[6] and "without merit".[7]

Trump, his attorneys, and his supporters falsely[8] asserted widespread election fraud in public statements, though few such assertions were made in court.[9] In one instance, the Trump campaign and other groups seeking his election collectively lost multiple cases in six states on one day.[10] Every state except Wisconsin[11] met the December 8 statutory "safe harbor" deadline to resolve disputes and certify voting results. The Trump legal team had said it would not consider this election certification deadline as an expiration date for its litigation of the election results.[12][13][14] Three days after it was filed by Texas attorney general Ken Paxton, the Supreme Court on December 11 declined to hear a case supported by Trump and his Republican allies asking for electoral votes in four states to be rejected.[15]
How about this election. br br After the 2020 Uni... (show quote)


Donald Trump and others (Not Donald Trump and his team) filed over fifty lawsuits.

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Dec 20, 2020 17:40:32   #
moldyoldy
 
Larry Joe wrote:
Moldy, your comments were answered by dtucker’s article, which as dtucker said, you wouldn’t respond. I understand, facts defeats your false arguments. All I want is for Congress to implement the 2002 Jimmy Carter-Jim Baker Election Reform Recommendations. And we need to move on from this election.
Larry Joe


What article was that?

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Dec 20, 2020 17:42:51   #
moldyoldy
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Donald Trump and others (Not Donald Trump and his team) filed over fifty lawsuits.


Frivolous lawsuits that were thrown out of court.

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Dec 20, 2020 17:44:27   #
Larry Joe
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Still waiting for him to make a sensible comment.


I had no trouble understanding dtucker’s article, it was in English. But he said you wouldn’t respond.
Larry Joe

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Dec 20, 2020 17:45:03   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
We saw an example of those people sitting with Rudy while he was trying to shut her up.


You are still hung up on that? Not a representative example of others who have come forward at great personal risk to themselves and their families, or of losing employment.

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Dec 20, 2020 17:48:07   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Frivolous lawsuits that were thrown out of court.


Not frivolous, a Catch 22. Some because of standing. Some because the courts don't want to tackle this issue and suffer the bad press they will receive, in addition to bringing possible retribution by Antifa types. In other words, cowards.

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Dec 20, 2020 17:50:34   #
American Vet
 
moldyoldy wrote:
How about this election..[15]


One down. 2 to go - for this year.

Keep in mind the Republican Party was founded in1854 or thereabouts.

So, run your mouth and produce - or admit you are simply telling a lie.

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Dec 20, 2020 17:54:42   #
Larry Joe
 
moldyoldy wrote:
We saw an example of those people sitting with Rudy while he was trying to shut her up.


Moldy, you found one out of thousands of affidavits you thought bad. Really? Simply disregard thousands? Of course there was voter fraud. The argument is “how much”.

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Dec 20, 2020 18:49:55   #
Mikeyavelli
 
rumitoid wrote:
What are they afraid of? Or more importantly, who are they afraid of? These continued efforts through the decades make no sense if they believe their cause is just and for the common good. If so, they would welcome more voters, being the Party of the people. Yet so much of their effort over the years has been to suppress the vote, and every year at least three of their attempts are crushed by SCOTUS as being unconstitutional or racist.

Sam Levine in New York
Sat, December 19, 2020, 4:00 AM MST

After record turnout in the 2020 presidential election, Republicans in some states are already signaling they will pursue measures that make it harder to vote in the coming years.

The Republican efforts come after an election in which nearly 160 million people voted, the highest in a presidential election in over a century. About half of voters cast their ballots by mail, a big increase from 2016, while about another quarter cast their ballots in person ahead of election day.

The GOP backlash underscores how swiftly and severely the party is willing to cut off access to the ballot amid signs of a changing electorate. The baseless accusations of fraud that Donald Trump and other allies continue to levy about the election has offered election officials justification for passing the measures.

“There will be some states where it is very clear that the existing power structure is worried about their voters. And part of their job security plan is to make it harder for their voters to participate,” said Myrna Pérez, director of the voting rights and elections program at the Brennan Center for Justice.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-strategize-next-elections-plan-110047392.html
What are they afraid of? Or more importantly, who ... (show quote)


Yeah, you have to be alive, a citizen, be registered,
and have proper identification to vote.
Tough to do if you are dead or illegal or not registered or don't have ID.

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