Proven Fact! The DNC Servers Were Never Hacked! (Page 2): And yet we are reliably informed that the FBI were consistently denied access to the DNC servers, so you figure it out...

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

rumitoid wrote:

On 6/12, The FBI detected that at least one computer had been compromised by Russian hackers. How did they come to that conclusion is they had not accessed DNC servers?

And yet we are reliably informed that the FBI were consistently denied access to the DNC servers, so you figure it out, because it stymies me. Maybe they were monitoring those sneaky Russians from home?

rumitoid

debeda wrote:

Even if the above is the true sequence of events, why would the FBI not offer assistance in such an extreme case and, if they did, why would the DNC not accept their help. Honestly, the more threads that get pulled on this thing the more tangled it gets

Oh, yeah, I agree. The FBI did offer but why not take the help? Very strange. But in a campaign, understandable for a few not very good reasons. Did not want to admit they were vulnerable out of hubris is one. Perhaps worried they would have to turn over their private emails and strategy to the FBI to allow an investigation, which may become public. Who knows? But doubting this Russian interference, supposedly confirmed by 13 US Intelligence Agencies and corroborated by several other foreign Intelligence Agencies, is a vote for Putin and one against this nation. It is a form of subversion of our government, sedition.

rumitoid

Larry the Legend wrote:

And yet we are reliably informed that the FBI were consistently denied access to the DNC servers, so you figure it out, because it stymies me. Maybe they were monitoring those sneaky Russians from home?

I, of course, have no answers for that; it defies logic. Some reasonable guesses do nothing to resolve the issue. But Russian hacking in the election, on many levels, appears to be confirmed as fact. I feel it is a great disservice to the American people and national security to suggest, contrary to our Intelligence Community demonstration of proof, that Russia was not at fault.

debeda

rumitoid wrote:

Oh, yeah, I agree. The FBI did offer but why not t... (show quote)

The whole thing is a crazy, convoluted mess. And the thing I wonder, not being an IT person, I should ask my son in law, is if the FBI never had access to the DNC servers how would they know they're being hacked. Someone just mentioned this and it's something I've wondered before. Even with the download speeds, never mind this other info. How does anyone KNOW without access?

Gatsby

rumitoid wrote:

On 6/12, The FBI detected that at least one computer had been compromised by Russian hackers. How did they come to that conclusion is they had not accessed DNC servers?

It seems that you missed Comey's sworn testimony that NO U.S. agency had access to either

the DNC server(s) or software. Comey further testified that US. intelligence experts simply

accepted Crowdstrike's (an agent of the DNC) assessment of Russian hacking.

If you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question!

rumitoid

trucksterbud wrote:

Ya, this story has come out several times from several angles.

Do the 'Enlightened One's" ever listen....???

Question: Why, if the Russian's were so suspect of the DNC hack, did it take the DNC crowd over 9 months to turn the servers over to CrowdStrike..?? BTW, the DNC never did let the FBI examine the servers. And by CrowdStrikes own analysis, the download speed was too great to be an online hack. Think 'thumbdrive' and Seth Rich..??

Let a Republican government examine all their private emails? Why turn them over is the better question.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

rumitoid wrote:

Let a Republican government examine all their private emails? Why turn them over is the better question.

Ahem. At that time, it was still very much a 'Democrat' government. Oh, and the FBI is very much a
'Democrat' agency, just so you know.

snowbear37 Loc: MA.

Larry the Legend wrote:

So, what does this mean? In all likelihood, there ... (show quote)

The Dems have tried every lowdown, evil, and vicious trick in the book to bring down President Trump.

Gatsby

Larry the Legend wrote:

And yet we are reliably informed that the FBI were consistently denied access to the DNC servers, so you figure it out, because it stymies me. Maybe they were monitoring those sneaky Russians from home?

This will get interesting if anyone is ever tried for hacking the DNC servers, as their is no evidence.

Surely, any defense attorney would demand access to those servers, which no longer exist.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Gatsby wrote:

This will get interesting if anyone is ever tried for hacking the DNC servers, as their is no evidence.
Surely, any defense attorney would demand access to those servers, which no longer exist.

How convenient!

rumitoid

debeda wrote:

The whole thing is a crazy, convoluted mess. And the thing I wonder, not being an IT person, I should ask my son in law, is if the FBI never had access to the DNC servers how would they know they're being hacked. Someone just mentioned this and it's something I've wondered before. Even with the download speeds, never mind this other info. How does anyone KNOW without access?

I mentioned it. And that was my point: "How does anyone KNOW without access?"

rumitoid

Larry the Legend wrote:

Ahem. At that time, it was still very much a 'Democrat' government. Oh, and the FBI is very much a
'Democrat' agency, just so you know.

That is opinion. Mueller is a lifelong Republican. At Justice, all Republicans in the upper echelon were GOP. And this little tidbit: The 2014 elections gave the Republicans control of the Senate (and control of both houses of Congress) for the first time since the 109th Congress. With 248 seats in the House of Representatives and 54 seats in the Senate, this Congress began with the largest Republican majority since the 71st Congress of 1929–1931. Hardly a "Democrat government."

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

rumitoid wrote:

That is opinion. Mueller is a lifelong Republican. At Justice, all Republicans in the upper echelon were GOP. And this little tidbit: The 2014 elections gave the Republicans control of the Senate (and control of both houses of Congress) for the first time since the 109th Congress. With 248 seats in the House of Representatives and 54 seats in the Senate, this Congress began with the largest Republican majority since the 71st Congress of 1929–1931. Hardly a "Democrat government."

You're conflating government with politicians. According to Wikipedia:

"A government is the system by which a state or community is controlled. In the Commonwealth of Nations, the word government is also used more narrowly to refer to the collective group of people that exercises executive authority in a state. This usage is analogous to what is called an "administration" in American English."

Congress is not 'the government', those who implement the will of the Congress are properly referred to as the 'government', and at that time they were very much Democrat, and in many cases still are, though that's changing, slowly but surely.

debeda

rumitoid wrote:

I mentioned it. And that was my point: "How does anyone KNOW without access?"

crazy.....

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Gatsby wrote:

The real question is, why didn't the FBI WANT to examine the DNC server?

They had the power to seize it, who prevented that from happening?

Along with why BO and the DNC never took an action to secure their servers?? The IT people were demied access to the DNC computers, why?

Why didn’t they launch security measure even before the campaigning started since they knew early 2015 that they were supposedly being hacked by Russia???