archie bunker Loc: Texas

I would tell her THAT. Suck it up. You should have dealt with it 36 years ago. And if you hadn't placed yourself in that position, it wouldn't have happened.

pafret Loc: Northeast

Again, implicit assumption of Trump's guilt without any evidentiary material.

Further assumption, Kabvanaugh will automatically vote in any SC case to protect Trump.

Third assumption, it is presupposed that the Constitution allows Trump to be "sworn In" a euphemism for be questioned under oath with the probability of entrapment and creation of false charges. Constitutional Scholars from left and right have indicated this is not possible under the Constitution.

Fourth assumption, you predicate a monolithic cabal of leftists (and rightists) Supreme Court Justices, who do not vote the Constitutional issues but instead vote strictly party lines. One Supreme (Ginsburg) has gone on record opposing such witch hunts as in the in Kavanaugh's questioning and unverifed accusation of childhood misdeeds. These appointments are for life the assure that party affiliations do not dictate the law of the land. You impugn all SC Justices and essentially say none of them are men or women of honor.

In short, your argument is full of holes and only by leaving one's brain in a drawer can your suppositions be entertained.

Morgan

Ok, duly noted, I have missed judged you, your lack of understanding is only surpassed by your lack of empathy and knowledge to the emotional, physical and mental implications of a sexual assault. Looks like in your mind she should have just "manned-up". That's just perfect ...really.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

You asked what if it were my daughter in this situation, and I answered honestly considering this situation, and that woman's testimony, or lack thereof about the "incident."

Were my daughter to be a leftist, political activist, and concoct a story like this, I wouldn't believe her any more than I believe that woman.
Your feminist, emotion driven hogwash doesn't fly, because I firmly believe that woman is lying, and this whole charade is nothing more than a political hit job.

Morgan

First, if it talks like a skunk and smells like a skunk...

Second, Kavanaugh assumption, Yes, I also assume the sun will shine tomorrow, even behind the clouds.

Third, a euphemism, really, how so and please feel free to be direct, there is no euphemism, if there are charges, if he is innocent that will come out, only the guilty fear being sworn in, just as Kavanaugh and NOT Ford. Has Kavanaugh gone before a lie detector test as Ford has done? Again fear.

Tell me in what circumstance was Clinton sworn in over? Who was railroaded then by a majority rule? I'm sure you don't see that whole escapade as an entrapment, correct. How much did the GOP spend on that, the president got a "consensual" sexual act by a real little eager beaver, who put her in the white house, I'd love to know, but she couldn't have been a plant, nah, impossible. The GOP is just too above board, please don't make me laugh. Please don't tell me what is possible or impossible, that door swings to whatever is convenient to whomever at that moment in time.

your quote{You impugn all SC Justices and essentially say none of them are men or women of honor.} Never said that, don't put your lying words in my mouth. This is what the deplorable right always does, state lies as the truth and then pounds them away to mislead the public. You want to ACCUSE me of something then POST my quote from where you're taking the accusation from, I am sick to death of having to prove your lies by digging up my old quotes that have been intentionally misconceived, in order to malign, you are completely transparent sir. Once again YOU have no case and now the typical move to slander the poster with fallacies. If you think that at times judges don't vote within their party lines you are naive, Scalia is a perfect example. Judges are people and fallible.

Childhood misdeeds, really, how far will you go? Maybe someday this little misdeed will happen to your granddaughter or a niece and you can just shrug it off then too.

Morgan

I see you choose to do what is safe for you to mentally handle. Now you choose to envision your daughter as a leftist, perfect really, another way for you to mentally separate from her. Yes, Archie this sort of thing only happens to leftists, ah so true, so true.

Here's some food for thought, if you can. As far as people coming forward...men...yep men who have been raped, almost ALL don't come forward(96%). Why do you think that is, well, for the same reasons, they are just more severe in nature on how they would be viewed with society, it's even worse than it is for women. I'm sure you would give them the same or even less understanding and compassion and probably just think less of them, they're just wuss's correct. We all saw Deliverance, do you think things like that doesn't happen or exist you're wrong, jeez look at prison. A young guy can go in for pot offense and come out scarred for life, but it's is own damn fault, correct, he definitely needs to suck it up.

{Rape and sexual abuse are devastating experiences. Anyone who has experienced them, regardless of their sex, sexual identity or gender will face many of the same challenges and barriers. Usually handled by keeping it your own dirtl little guilt-ridden secret. Rape and sexual abuse are devastating experiences. Anyone who has experienced them, regardless of their sex, sexual identity or gender will face many of the same challenges and barriers. }http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/why-do-96pc-of-male-sexual-assaults-go-unreported/

Your quote:"Your feminist, emotion driven hogwash" How typical, yeah riiiiight, men are never emotional, funny I always seem to forget that, maybe, due to the fact they constantly get into fights, just Like Kavanaugh at a bar. He wasn't emotional at all at the Senate hearing, he was as calm as a cucumber, he just kept having facial spasms and allergy attacks.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

GOOD GOD LADY!!

You asked me a specific question, to which I provided a specific answer, and now you're painting me as some kind of a monster?
Our conversation wasn't about sexual assault in general, but about this specific case, and you are definitely twisting, and shouting here!

How I feel about sexual, or any other kind of assault is a topic for an entirely different discussion. YOU, YOU, are trying to flip this on ME, and, sorry lady, I ain't having it!!

What would you do if that were your daughter you ask.

Well, what would you do if that were your son being smeared in a political hit job?

Flip flop.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Obama's appointment of Garland was a political gambit, Garland was Obama's sacrificial lamb, he nominated the most blandly inoffensive left-of-center jurist he could find to test the mettle of the Republican senate. Garland is middle aged, not the best pick for a lifetime appointment and he is Jewish. Obama realized afterwards that appointing Garland was a mistake.

Morgan

Archie, please point out to me where I painted you as a monster? You answered me by stating you would tell your daughter(after36years) to suck it up. I found that a bit cold and harsh...sorry. I would never say that to my daughter, even if were thirty six years later. If you think your a monster it's by your own hand, I just gave you a mirror.

Our conversation wasn't about sexual assault...Really? I thought we were, WOW, what do you think we and they've been talking about with Ford and Kavanaugh? Beer? Getting drunk? I'm not twisting, shouting, or being emotional, You're convinced she's a phony. I'm trying to have you understand the lasting impact it has on people and I'm having difficulties to get you to cross that bridge into some new understanding?

Try and calm down you're way too emotional. I'm not trying to paint you as a monster, or flip-flop.

As far as if this were my son or husband, I would do everything to prove his innocence, if that were to include a polygraph, or a full press investigation so be it, more power to them, I would want my husband CLEARED of all charges without suspicion.

Morgan

Kavanaugh is middle age, and you're now saying this is not the best pick for a lifetime appointment, interesting and what does him being Jewish have to do with an inappropriate pick and a mistake for an SCJ? Obama thought it was a mistake, that sounds like pure conjecture to me. Where did you get such information?

I believe his appointment was once again trying to satisfy both sides, as he often did.