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Jun 20, 2018 01:45:35   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Richard94611 wrote:
ProudRepublican, you have no way of knowing whether or nopt I care about children, but I do, very much. This is not predominantly politicial. You Republicans are injuring children, and you don't care. You are the ones whose actions are based purely on politicial considerations. Your man Trump is quite close to being another Fuhrer, and it is a credit to our politicial system that he has encountered resistence that prevents him -- so far -- from going all the way. What is going on here is that Trump has instituted a cruel policiy that is not a law, and that he could reverse with a simple phone call.

You should focus on the effects all this is having on the children themselves and not on the political side. Do you have children ? Do you care about them ?

You are wrong about Obama doing the same thing. Obama didn't. Obama considered this same action and rejected it because it was too cruel. Trump, it has often been noted, doesn't have empathy with anyone but himself.

Yes, you conservatives often rant about how if somebody wants to take away your guns, you'll be out there shooting. Well, this is a much more powerful issue than that. You talk about inciting people to violance. Yes, this could do it.

And I cannot help but note that you bring up the issue of race.. On top of it all, you're probably a genuine bigot. Typical of Trump's followers. you are morally deficient.
ProudRepublican, you have no way of knowing whethe... (show quote)


BTW im not Trump follower, im Trump supporter..Big difference!!!.....And my moral compass is pointing me in the right direction!!!

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Jun 20, 2018 01:45:40   #
JoyV
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Watching how Trumpenfuhrer operates, I have noticed one of his worst tactics. He will find a group of people who desperately need help -- the Dreamers, for instance, or the children being taken into custody at our Southern borders. He will hurt them, and then say 1) I didn't do it (a lie) and 2) If you want me to stop hurting them, then you must give me my way by passing such-and-such an unpopular legislative measure. He is quite happy to hurt other people and play on our sense of compassion to get his own way. Quite a President we have here !
Watching how Trumpenfuhrer operates, I have notice... (show quote)


You mean like proposing to increase the numbers of Dreamers which the Democrats shot down? As for the children at the border, he is enforcing the law AND he is NOT putting kids in chain link animal pens like Obama did.

Bush -- initiated the Zero Tolerance policy, but since his policy used mass hearings, there was not a long time period between when the parents were charged and either deported or given asylum so kids did not need to no held for any length of time in detention.

Obama -- kept the Zero Tolerance but challenged the mass hearings so the length of time children needed to be held increased. But instead of expanding or building detention centers, he had them locked up in animal cages. He also instituted a law which prevents children from having expedited hearings which their parents can have so the parents might be repatriated but the kids need to be held for in depth hearings.

Trump -- is enforcing the laws on the books but is adding more immigration judges, building more children's detention centers which are comfortable, clean, kids are given good meals, showers and clean clothes, indoor recreation, outdoor activities, and more.

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Jun 20, 2018 01:49:14   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Which party controls the Presidency? The Republican Party. Which Party controls the House of Representatives? The Republican Party. Which party controls the Senate? The Republican Party. And you blame the Democrats for not having solved this issue? I guess you folks cannot take responsibility for your own actions and inactions. That must be why Trump always tries to blame someone else, too. It’s a Republican thing.


You people had 8 yrs to solve the problem and you did nothing!!!And as for us having House Senate and the Presidency..You right, except you need 60 votes in the Senate,so unfortunately we need Demonrats help..And you people are obstructionists!!!

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Jun 20, 2018 04:08:17   #
Richard94611
 
ProudRepublican -- what is wrong with calling Obama Black is that it is irrelevant in this matter, yet you seem to want to bring it in. You're really a closet -- and I am sure sometimes overt -- racist. These things have a way of seeping out, and you have shown it. It's OK. Why don't you just be honest and admit it.

You have no idea and no information about my feelings towards children. You think I don't care about American children? Wrong. You have no idea, and just choose to blather about something you are totally ignorant of.

I grant you that I hope the Republicans get trounced in the coming election. If the Senate or the House goes Democratic, you can kiss off Trump's chances of passing much of what he advocates.

But the fact that I dislike Trump very much does not mean that I don't care about children and their well-being. You are totally illogical. You lack the ability to think critically.. The evidence is in your posts.


proud republican wrote:
Whats wrong with calling obama black...This is his race isnt it???He isnt purple or red or green..No!!He is black...What is so racist about that???...So you say you love children right???Maybe you do, but it kind of makes me wonder...If you love children so much,then why you dont care about American kids that live in poverty...Faaar worse then these illegal kids at the border...Why you dont care about our kids??American....Or is it because 2018 midterms are coming and you are desperate cause you have nothing else,but hate for Trump!!!
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Jun 20, 2018 04:14:05   #
Richard94611
 
JoyV, you really don't get it, do you ? You claim that the law is being enforced at the border, separating parents from their children. How often does one have to repeat to you that this is NOT A LAW ? This is a cruel policy initiated by Trump and Sessions. They could end it in a minute with a phone call or two. Don't confuse policy -- which doesn't come from Congress -- with law, which does.

I guess you won't understand the difference anyway, will you ? That's because you don't want to.

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Jun 20, 2018 05:27:03   #
Tug484
 
Richard94611 wrote:
EmilyD, you are mistaken or deliberately lying if you are claiming that what Trump is doing by separating these children from their parents is followuing the law. What he is doing is not following any law. It is Trump’s policy, which he can change any time he wishes with a simple phone call.

Are you really heartless? Do you have children?

You are wrong.
This law was signed by Billy boy Clinton.
Even his sicko wife said just because children come, it doesn't mean they can stay.
Get your facts from somewhere besides the manure stream media.

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Jun 20, 2018 05:32:13   #
Richard94611
 
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. You are the one who is wrong. You Republicans insist on misrepresenting the facts. It is a policy implemented by Sessions and the President, and they could undo it with a phone call or two.

quote=Tug484]You are wrong.
This law was signed by Billy boy Clinton.
Even his sicko wife said just because children come, it doesn't mean they can stay.
Get your facts from somewhere besides the manure stream media.[/quote]

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Jun 20, 2018 06:36:06   #
Big Kahuna
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Watching how Trumpenfuhrer operates, I have noticed one of his worst tactics. He will find a group of people who desperately need help -- the Dreamers, for instance, or the children being taken into custody at our Southern borders. He will hurt them, and then say 1) I didn't do it (a lie) and 2) If you want me to stop hurting them, then you must give me my way by passing such-and-such an unpopular legislative measure. He is quite happy to hurt other people and play on our sense of compassion to get his own way. Quite a President we have here !
Watching how Trumpenfuhrer operates, I have notice... (show quote)


Richard00000,that is a zero comment you just posted. The real hurt is the 60 million babies that have been murdered since your side endorsed abortion on demand. If you leftists are so self righteous and pure, why haven't you been picketing or demonstrating for the rights of the 60 million unborn??

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Jun 20, 2018 06:36:39   #
Big Kahuna
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Hitler was a man of action, too. Democrats have already proposed solutions, but Republicans won't accept them and prefer to keep the Dreamers as hostages for their own political ends. And while Trump thinks he is strengthening America, he is in fact weakening this country. Ally after ally is leaving the fold.


Fake news as usual!!

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Jun 20, 2018 06:40:16   #
Big Kahuna
 
EmilyD wrote:
Trump is calling the shots. The Law is the law, that was made up by the Democrats during Clinton's reign in 1997. All Trump is doing is enforcing the law that Clinton put in place. BO just went along with it because he is a wimp and couldn't figure out a solution...and it got him votes, and now Trump, as usual, is left with another mess to clean up. What Trump is doing now is enforcing those laws. These children are not being ill treated.
If you don't like the law that Trump is trying to enforce, then lobby your congressman.
Trump is calling the shots. The Law is the law, t... (show quote)


Bovommit was a big a-s kisser and kneebender too, to every dictator, islamist, felon, mullah and antiAmerican on the planet. The man was so limber when it came to a-s kissing that he could even kiss his own a-s!!

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Jun 20, 2018 06:42:01   #
Big Kahuna
 
Richard94611 wrote:
EmilyD, you are mistaken or deliberately lying if you are claiming that what Trump is doing by separating these children from their parents is following the law. What he is doing is not following any law. It is Trump’s policy, which he can change any time he wishes with a simple phone call.

Are you really heartless? Do you have children?


Richard0000, I have 10 brats that I would gladly ship off to you if you would give me your correctional facility address and cell number!

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Jun 20, 2018 06:42:39   #
ts2018
 
EmilyD wrote:
Trump is calling the shots. The Law is the law, that was made up by the Democrats during Clinton's reign in 1997. All Trump is doing is enforcing the law that Clinton put in place.


I keep hearing this. Exactly what law are you referring to? They all have numbers. What law?

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Jun 20, 2018 06:46:46   #
Big Kahuna
 
ts2018 wrote:
I keep hearing this. Exactly what law are you referring to? They all have numbers. What law?


Transexual2018, you might try reading the constitution and follow the laws about aiding and abetting an enemy. If you think these folks are our friends maybe you need to go live in Tijuana!!

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Jun 20, 2018 06:53:04   #
Richard94611
 
I haven’t been picketing or demonstrating about abortion for several reasons. 1). To have a baby or not seems to me to be a legitimate choice for the prospective mother to make. 2). If you know anything about anthropology other than how to spell the word, you would know that most cultures in the world do allow abortion, one way or another. A variety of conditions allow mother’s to make that decision.

And of course you are changing the subject. We have been concerned with the well-being of children taken from their parents. That’s the subject under consideration.

To you conservatives, life seems to begin at conception and to end at birth. Why don’t conservatives generally care about the well-being of people already born?


drlarrygino wrote:
Richard00000,that is a zero comment you just posted. The real hurt is the 60 million babies that have been murdered since your side endorsed abortion on demand. If you leftists are so self righteous and pure, why haven't you been picketing or demonstrating for the rights of the 60 million unborn??

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Jun 20, 2018 06:55:03   #
Richard94611
 
One might also wonder why conservative Republicans are not extremely upset about Russian intervention in our elections.

drlarrygino wrote:
Transexual2018, you might try reading the constitution and follow the laws about aiding and abetting an enemy. If you think these folks are our friends maybe you need to go live in Tijuana!!

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