Endoscopy Loc: Florida

ROFLMAO
You are proving my point. The fact is Obama took office with $10 trillion of debt and left office with $20 trillion of debt. Google it.

Abel

(Chocura750 wrote:
It's Republicans who are adding trillions to the national debt and allowing the world's temperatures to continue on the path to destroy the planet. Absolute dishonesty.)

1. Written as a dedicated Progressive, throw the Democrat crap at the Republicans and see if it sticks! Well, it doesn't. The national debt problems were started when President Woodrow Wilson (a Communist leaning Democrat) let the Federal Reserve Bank (a private for-profit bank, with nothing to do with the government) take over the financial duties of the Congress. Other presidents helped out, but Obama (a Muslim pretending to be a US Citizen and a Democrat) really amplified the debt by doubling it while he was in his Progressive purchased presidential office faking it as president and attempting to destroy the country, but WTH, he was, and still is, just a pawn in the NWO game of 3-D chess.

2. The people do not "allow" the climate to change. Climate change is a function of the sun (our energy source), and mother nature (the way the planet deals with the energy from the sun). The people either have to adapt to these climate changes or perish. In spite of our arrogance, the human race is only a minuscule part of the happenings on the planet Earth, so we should get over ourselves and enjoy life while we can.

The sun is now entering into a state of hibernation, reducing the number of sunspots (indicators of the activity of our solar furnace we call the sun), and we are now on the down-slope of the 206 year solar cycle. Al Gore's "global warming" (now called climate change) peaked out about 2007-2008, and we're now heading for a mini ice age again in just a few years that will affect the length of the agricultural growing season and shorten it. The shorter agricultural growing season will likely cause food shortages worldwide. Hope you saved your heavy coat. Ref: Dark Winter by John Casey, a very good book.

Endoscopy Loc: Florida

How dare you to tell the truth about climate change. That will cause cognitive dissonance in the progressives until they purge your statement from their mind.
ROTFLMAO

Abel

I find it difficult to believe cognitive dissonance can be caused in their one-track minds. However, if it can, maybe they can eventually find a spur-track to switch it onto. ;<}

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Much of the time the kids are not the children of the adults they show up with.

Endoscopy Loc: Florida

I think cognitive dissonance is bunk but like to throw it at progressives.

johnsorrell7

You gotta wonder, if our government is offering the illegal adults the option to reunite with their children, but only if they agree to deport themselves as well as the children.
I'm betting the illegal adults will not accept this offer. And yet they are programed by the democrats to whine and make their babies cry in front of the press. It's to be expected by these types of people.....
The adults are criminals, and they're dragging the children along with them, only to serve a purpose...

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

The first time offenders are the only ones offered this option of taking their kids and going back south. But you are correct, the kids are a sort of illegal immigration meal ticket.

EmilyD

That is true. Once illegals found out that the "catch and release" program that Obama initiated was easier for them if they had children with them, they started bringing "their" kids to the border. Because they were a "family" they were handed a summons to appear in court in a few months, which they knew they could ignore, and then they were allowed to go free. The number of children appearing at the border has increased significantly once word spread about Obama's program. Now Trump has to clean up yet another mess that has been left to him.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

All facts in denial by the anti-Trump leftists.

EmilyD

Here is a great explanation of how Obama's program works: https://lawandcrime.com/immigration/obamas-immigration-agencies-separated-children-from-their-families-too/

Edited to add: But this is a different way that he separated families....

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

That's crazy!

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

First Photos from Inside Facilities for Illegal Immigrant Children Shatter Establishment Media Narrative
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/author/chris-golden/?ff_source=push&ff_medium=conservativetribune&ff_campaign=manualpost&ff_content=2018-06-19
You’ve all seen the fake pictures of how children separated from their parents are detained in America — you know, locked in cages and treated like dogs at a shelter.
Of course, those pictures are mostly from the Obama era during the migrant crisis or are faked, but shhh. Don’t let facts get in the way of a good tweet (or rant in the press room).
So, how are children treated when they’re removed from their parents? Well, reporters found out, courtesy of a tour of one of the facilities in which they’re housed, the Southwest Key Programs residential center in El Cajon, California, which operates under contract with the Department of Health and Human Services.
According to Breitbart, whose reporters were allowed on a tour of the facility Friday along with other media, El Cajon is decidedly “not a ‘cage.’ It is a comfortable facility providing lodging, meals, clothing, medical care, education, recreation, counseling, and other services.”
“The facility is located on a main street in a quiet, suburban neighborhood. It has 65 beds, occupied by boys ages 6 to 17. The rooms are spare, with three to four beds in each; the boys are responsible for cleaning the rooms and making their own beds. There is an outdoor recreation area with picnic tables and a small soccer pitch.”
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The facility’s goal is for the child to leave with a legal guardian. According to Breitbart, most of the children at the facility arrived at the border without adults, while only 10 percent were separated from adults who were arrested when they illegally crossed the border.
Here’s video of the facility. (Note: Audio doesn’t come in until near the end):
https://youtu.be/yzat9MRNIlg

And here are some photos. Like the video, they were provided by the HHS.
It’s all maybe a bit dorm-room spartan, but it’s certainly not cages or anything approximating jail.
Southwest Key didn’t allow journalists to take any photographs or videos of the programs or the care the children receive. However, according to Breitbart, the children are given new clothing and shoes, lessons on hygiene and how to operate conveniences they may not have encountered previously, like toilets and a shower.

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“They have limited access to telephones to call relatives, both in the U.S. and abroad. They receive therapy, both as individuals and in group sessions,” Breitbart noted. “They enjoy field trips to local museums, parks, and the zoo, where they can explore the city beyond the shelter. And they also have social activities, including a recent ‘prom’ for which they dressed up.”
Yet, these are the children that one MSNBC reporter referred to as “incarcerated.” As Breitbart’s Joel B. Pollak pointed out, this “is only true in the same sense that hospital patients, too, are not permitted to leave, for their safety.”
Naturally, not all child detention facilities are going to measure up to the Southwest Key standard aesthetically — there’s a reason the media was brought there, after all. And Democrat lawmakers are having a fine time attracting news cameras to their attempts to visit other child detention facilities. (They’re not as nice as the Southwest Key building, but they’re not the concentration camps liberals are trying to portray them as.)
As Customs and Border Patrol Acting Deputy Commissioner Rob Vitiello told CSN, the mainstream media aren’t giving the full story.
“They have PlayStations. Pool tables. It’s far from a concentration camp and people should be more accurate when they describe what we are trying to accomplish there,” he said.
“They are very well-appointed,”
Overall, it’s important to remember who is fundamentally responsible for these children’s plight. These are children who either crossed the border alone or were brought along while their parents committed a federal crime. In that case, they were suborned into breaking the law by their mother and/or father, likely after a dangerous passage to the border that may have involved human trafficking.
This is a grievous crime, and we don’t seem to have any problem with separating American children from their parent or parents when they’ve committed crimes. Why, exactly, is illegal immigration any different?
Regardless of whether you’re comfortable with this practice, these are not children being held in cages.
The government isn’t acting like Nazis, as MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough claimed. These pictures show a far different reality than has been presented to us thus far — and one that likely won’t get a lot of play on MSNBC in the coming days.
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EconomistDon

NOBODY said that illegals don't receive state benefits.. It IS all over the news. My point is, they are not citizens, they don't have social security numbers, and they don't pay taxes. The cost to an employer for health care, eye care, dental care, retirement benefits, federal income taxes, state taxes, local taxes, and social security taxes is huge. Using Mexican slave labor is a tremendous cost savings. The slave laborers don't pay anything into the system, yet they receive state benefits and free treatment at hospitals.

BTW, what planet are you from?

Endoscopy Loc: Florida

Do you realize that the longer the post the fewer people will bother to read it. This is what happens on forums. Your long bunch of ranting is stupid. Keep it short.