PJT

We often hear of illegals paying significant money to smugglers to get in illegally. With that kind of money why do they need to come here...at least illegally???

johnsorrell7

Are you a Mexican living in California ?????

Abel

It gets their children into our system, similar to being an "anchor baby."

PJT

No! And No!. I'm an American who would protect our borders from those who illegally enter and those who claim asylum without trying to improve their home lands.

Gatsby

You make a great point! While millions of working Americans are only a single paycheck ahead of homelessness,

many of these illegals were able to raise thousands of dollars to make their journey possible.

EmilyD

You know, it could be that those aren't even their own children. When my husband went to Mexico a few years ago on business, he saw a bunch of women with various forms of "defects" (only one arm, blind, etc.) holding babies and children and begging for money. He started to pull his wallet out, but his co-worker, who was a legal immigrant who moved his family to the US from Mexico 18 years ago when he was naturalized, stopped my husband and said put your wallet away - those babies and children are not theirs, they are borrowed. According to his co-worker, there were organizations who rounded up orphans and street children, (and even kidnapped some of the children) and the women to beg for money. The women got a little bit, but the organizers apparently made a lot of money with this scheme. So I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those children at the border aren't even those people's own children. I hope this is not true, but even if it is, imagine what is going on in those kids' minds....and what will happen if their "parents" do make it into the US, will they keep "their" children in their homes?

PJT

Its scary what people will do. Even scarier that so many Americans support these shenanigans. Such loyalty to socialism and the Democratic Party. Wonder what they think of those Axis who justified by saying "I'm loyal" or "I was just obeying orders!".
Ok wow about Democrats who favor illegal aliens be required to take them into their homes. Those who support higher taxes are the ones who pay those taxes, inc. Democrat billionaires and millionaires and middle class and all Democrats who live above the party line.

Gatsby

It is worth noting, these same bleeding hearts expressed no concerns at all about what Obama/Clinton did to the children of Libya.

Endoscopy Loc: Florida

Obama doubled the debt from 10 trillion to 20 trillion.

As you were saying?

Big Kahuna

The world must look at Americans (mostly the leftists) and laugh about what saps and a soft touch Americans are. We are used and abused by the world and our leftist Americans love it!!

EconomistDon

Liberals love illegals because they think that illegals vote Democrat. Heck, Obama went on national TV, shown on most mainstream media, urging illegals to vote in the 2016 Presidential election. Obama assured illegals that they would not be arrested for voting, nobody would know.

But an even bigger reason for supporting illegals is slave labor. California, especially, has a huge agriculture industry that needs migrants to plant and harvest crops. Their profits are greatly enhanced by having illegals do the work for slave wages. Illegals work for sub-minimum wages and get no health care, eye care, or retirement benefits. Furthermore, no social security, or federal taxes, or state and local taxes are paid for them. THAT is an enormous cost savings for California farmers. As a result, California has a powerful agriculture Political Action Committee (PAC) that has California politicians by the balls. Anything the California Ag PAC wants, they get, including Sanctuary Cities. Democrats owned black slaves before 1865; now they use (abuse) Mexican slaves.

Gatsby

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Liberals also love illegal immigrants because they keep wages low, re-enfrocing the need for their socialist programs!

Why don't they ever mention the working and living conditions in their be-loved migrant labor camps.

It is only those who have been "kicking this can down the road" for the past 30 years, that are to blame for this situation, no one else!

Endoscopy Loc: Florida

Progressives have taken over the Democrat Party. That means they don't care about the misery the illegal aliens live in!! They just want them to illegally vote for them.

Abel

Obama may have doubled the debt, but he didn't cause it. The cause came from when President Woodrow Wilson listened to his favorite Communist advisor and allowed the Federal Reserve Bank (a for profit enterprise with nothing to do with the government) to take over the monetary system and put us on a credit/debit system with a faux currency that later became backed only by the government's word. And we should all realize how "good" the "word" of our government is by now!

We have been bankrupt for many years and living on borrowed money; we only pay the interest on the debt each year, and add more to the principal to cover the next year of running the government, creating more unconstitutional socialist benefits programs, and support the booze bill of the do-damned-little-good-for-the-country Congress. We can only do this until our creditors decide we are deadbeats who can't, or won't, pay our debt, and foreclose on our debt, the USA being the collateral for the debt.

We cannot EVER decrease the debt if we never pay anything on the principal and just keep on adding more to it each year, which we do; the interest on the new money we borrow each year increases the principal, which increases the interest, and finally the interest payment will get beyond our ability to pay even the interest, and the USA will fail and our land will go to the creditors. Makes me wonder how we will be treated as refugees.

johnsorrell7

What planet have you come from??? Of course they receive state benefits, it’s All over the news. For sure, and most likely, some federal that California can stick in there. They do not nessiarily work for less wages. Recently I approached some illegals with the work of digging a hole for a fruit tree. Every one of them quoted the same price, $80.00 per day, or any fraction of a day. That ain’t cheap labor! Most of the jobs they do in California are as said above, planting and harvesting crops, that Americans just won’t do. After all, even the $15.00 per hour require some basic education and the illegals, for the most part, do not have the education to do this type of job.
There is an answer, and why our government doesn’t Push it more, I will never understand. Bring the laborers in on a work permit. The US government then knows who they are, where they are from, and last but not least, where they are and when they must go home. Several variations of this could be instituted and eliminate most of these problems...