mwdegutis wrote:
Punctuation error. Should have been a period.
I was going to just ignore you, but I wanted to clarify what I said, when I commented: "I" can. I mean, in the sense that I do not believe that I, or anyone, for that matter, is born with a sinful nature, as John Wesley, arch-Methodist, so provokingly stated: "Man is conceived in sin, and shapen in wickedness." Thus no human, no god, no part-god, part-human is required to die for any of my "sins".
If you read St. Paul, you will note that in order to convert the Gentiles, he wrote them, in Romans (and perhaps in other epistles as well), that Christ was the replacement for the "sin offerings", those animal sacrifices required in Mosaic Law in order for those who had sinned to become reconciled to God. In Leviticus, it is referred to as "their sacrifice on the atonement cover of the Ark of the Covenant." Thus Paul convinced the Gentiles that "Christ also died for the ungodly."
I cannot think of any more gruesome doctrine than that. In fact, even as a child I rejected that notion after I realized that in order to believe in it, I would have to believe that because I was such a bad little girl, I was responsible for the Crucifixion of Christ. In my mind, that was untenable.
And the contradiction was so plain: God created humans in his image; does that mean, then, he created humans to be conceived in sin, and shapen in wickedness so that humans could be like Him?
But you will believe as you have been taught; that you are not responsible for your own sins. A very childlike behavior.
And just in case you have forgotten, because you are slow to learn, I am not a Muslim. I am all religions, yet none of them. And that is because I distinguish between God, Who Is, and religion, which is how man relates to God.
May I direct you to my new topic: "Mardi Gras":
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-129940-1.html#2408665