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Apr 20, 2018 16:13:38   #
woodguru
 
cold iron wrote:
Look boy, after a year of Mueller jerking off and having nothing to show about Russia, I do not blame Trump for being pissed off.
So, come 2020 you can campaign for your next Obama.


Tell that to everyone who has been charged, plead guilty, had search warrants executed. Tell that to everyone who's holding their breath because they know they are also involved.

This is some seriously productive witch hunting, hell, it's easier to name who Trump brought on that wasn't involved with Russians than who wasn't. Then they lie about it witch (pun intended) sends a serious red flag up.

How can you say Mueller has nothing to show about Russia when almost every person Trump brought in was involved with Russia?

Is Hannity over at FOX still maintaining that there is nothing? Aren't they covering the guilty pleas? Flynn, Manafort, they were all set up?

Here's some advice, wait until Mueller puts out his report, it will be 100% corroborated with evidence, including what Trump people who have been busted have to say. Then you will not be talking about that which you know nothing about.

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Apr 20, 2018 16:22:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Rudy Giuliani announced last night that he just joined Trumps legal team to negotiate an end to the Mueller investigation and he thinks it will take two weeks to complete.

Now the questions I have are how do you negotiate an end to an investigation, especially one this complex, and just how on earth do you think it will take only two weeks to complete? Just what does Giuliani think he has that Mueller wants because the last I checked a negotiation is two parts--you give me this and I will give you that.
Rudy Giuliani announced last night that he just jo... (show quote)
When Rudy and Bob, old golfing buddies who ran with same crowd, meet, Rudy will have the heavy artillery--Comey's memos. Rudy will simply show Bob that, since these memos were the trigger for the investigation and there is absolutely no hint at collusion or obstruction in them, that there was no reason to establish a special counsel and launch a bogus investigation.

"Listen, Bob, you give us an end to this baseless bullshit, and we will salvage your career."

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Apr 20, 2018 17:53:12   #
PeterS
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Accidentally began to read this because I admire Giuliani, then saw who wrote it and can’t
Be bothered to read anymore.

Thanks for bowing out. Less dead meat to wade through...

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Apr 20, 2018 17:55:54   #
PeterS
 
cold iron wrote:
Do to your name on it, it is a moot point and a joke like you.

Then bow out. As I said to the other piece of dead meat--less to wade through...

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Apr 20, 2018 18:02:18   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
Then bow out. As I said to the other piece of dead meat--less to wade through...

I'd bet dollars to donuts you're on the goobermint dole fer dindu's.

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Apr 20, 2018 18:03:52   #
PeterS
 
cold iron wrote:
Innocent is not the question, it's called a witch hunt, that is the only problem. It's old commie practice.


Innocent isn't a question with Trump I have to agree as for this being a witch hunt you've got both the house and senate so what could you possibly be worried about? Trump could shoot a five year old in Time Square and no one would blink. Crawling in bed with Putin is nothing that you cons can't look past and both houses bailing him out...

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Apr 20, 2018 18:09:38   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
When Rudy and Bob, old golfing buddies who ran with same crowd, meet, Rudy will have the heavy artillery--Comey's memos. Rudy will simply show Bob that, since these memos were the trigger for the investigation and there is absolutely no hint at collusion or obstruction in them, that there was no reason to establish a special counsel and launch a bogus investigation.

"Listen, Bob, you give us an end to this baseless bullshit, and we will salvage your career."

Comey's memos were the reason for the investigation? Where did you hear that? As for no hint at obstruction or collusion has Mueller ended his investigation? After all that's the only way you would know if there was no obstruction or collusion...

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Apr 21, 2018 11:23:12   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Super Dave wrote:
That's an ignorant assumption you just made. (Not surprisingly.)

The negotiation is about ending an investigation that is in search a crime.

Just like Comey's super secret memos revealed, there is no crime to investigate with Trump.


The DNC nut job Perez just sued the Trump administration, that makes the Trump admin the defendant and they are now entitled to discovery and the DEMs must disclose all their data. The DEMs just cut their own throats. The entire DEM house of cards is about to collapse. Trump now gets to see everything on their server and anything else he needs to defend himself. No wonder their symbol is an ass.


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Apr 21, 2018 12:50:27   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Peewee wrote:
The DNC nut job Perez just sued the Trump administration, that makes the Trump admin the defendant and they are now entitled to discovery and the DEMs must disclose all their data. The DEMs just cut their own throats. The entire DEM house of cards is about to collapse. Trump now gets to see everything on their server and anything else he needs to defend himself. No wonder their symbol is an ass.

The DNC nut job Perez just sued the Trump administ... (show quote)

Perez is dumb as dirt.

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Apr 21, 2018 13:17:41   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Kevyn wrote:
He likely was in bed with Trump on dirty real estate and business dealings while he was mayor. The reasonable explanation is that his balls are in the same vice as the Pumpkinfuhrers, and Mueller is tightening the screws.


That is about as likely as you being a Christian. As for the screws, I believe you are losing yours. You seem to have become obsessed with the liberal lies. But all you have is your BS. That is all you live on.

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Apr 21, 2018 13:29:12   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
Trump or the incompetent white house attorneys never did get the key messages.

The FBI when in an investigation do not work for Trump. Trump has no business contacting anyone involved in an investigation that involves Trump, ever, for any reason. He is prohibited from talking to others even peripherally in what could seem like an attempt to shut down, inhibit, or otherwise influence the people involved.

Trump has personal attorneys, which by the way he should be paying but he uses campaign funds for a campaign that was started at least two years earlier than it needs to. White house attorneys do not work for Trump, in fact they represent the government and their purpose is to advise Trump when he is infringing on the people and government. Trump not understanding this refuses to take the advise of those attorneys who are not working for him at all.

Trump, if he understood this relationship would also understand that if he has anything to say to or about the FBI and the Mueller probe, he would say it through white house counsel, who could tell him he was out of line or not.

Bringing Giuliani in as counsel he better know whether it is as personal counsel or white house counsel. Mueller will slap this fool around like the moron he is if he fails to respect the boundaries that exist with white house communications with this investigation that is all about Trump.

The white house and intelligence committees are already so far over the line in terms of obstructing and interfering with this investigation that it's ridiculous.

Giuliani could easily blunder in, seeing how Trump has gotten away with an unacceptable level of interference, and double down way across the line and trigger immediate obstruction charges where Mueller will roll out the rest of his obstruction case. At the very least congress could be forced into implementing a hands off gag order for the administration.

This is some entertaining stuff here, Trump reality at it's best, sort of like one of the really idiotic reality shows.
Trump or the incompetent white house attorneys nev... (show quote)


Please tell us the unacceptable level of interference done by President Trump. You and your liberal playmates are more entertaining than a barrel of monkeys, with your unfounded comments. You should be embarrassed by your comments but we know you can't be embarrassed by your false statements, since you have no class.

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Apr 21, 2018 13:33:45   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
A witch hunt is like Benghazi, it goes on and on and on for years, producing nothing over and over.

Mueller on the other hand has brought down indictments, guilty pleas, and agreements to testify. It's actually very easy to see by warrants what he's looking for, and by charges what these people were doing and how it might apply to Trump.

You are right, innocence is not the question, I'm pretty sure that even the blindest supporter knows that if the people around Trump were involved in crimes so was Trump. Guilt is the question.

For what the right insists is a witch hunt, it's sure coming up with a lot of facts and evidence, doesn't that worry you more than the rhetoric that there is nothing there?

Watergate ended with dozens of people convicted of crimes, and this thing is way bigger.
A witch hunt is like Benghazi, it goes on and on a... (show quote)


The only reason there were no indictments, was because of the State Dept. did not give the committees the requested information they needed to make a complete investigation.

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Apr 21, 2018 13:42:26   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
Tell that to everyone who has been charged, plead guilty, had search warrants executed. Tell that to everyone who's holding their breath because they know they are also involved.

This is some seriously productive witch hunting, hell, it's easier to name who Trump brought on that wasn't involved with Russians than who wasn't. Then they lie about it witch (pun intended) sends a serious red flag up.

How can you say Mueller has nothing to show about Russia when almost every person Trump brought in was involved with Russia?

Is Hannity over at FOX still maintaining that there is nothing? Aren't they covering the guilty pleas? Flynn, Manafort, they were all set up?

Here's some advice, wait until Mueller puts out his report, it will be 100% corroborated with evidence, including what Trump people who have been busted have to say. Then you will not be talking about that which you know nothing about.
Tell that to everyone who has been charged, plead ... (show quote)


You are really illiterate or just lying. None of these pleas have to do with Trump. There is only one that happened during the campaign or the time after Trump was elected, the rest happened before the Trump campaign. So where on earth could that affect Trump? That was with Flynn and the initial investigators said they did not believe Flynn, knowingly lied. You really need to get out more and really find the truth instead of the liberal mush you consuming.

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Apr 21, 2018 13:45:05   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
PeterS wrote:
Comey's memos were the reason for the investigation? Where did you hear that? As for no hint at obstruction or collusion has Mueller ended his investigation? After all that's the only way you would know if there was no obstruction or collusion...


Comey is the one that said it. You really need to think before you type a response.

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Apr 21, 2018 13:47:26   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Peewee wrote:
The DNC nut job Perez just sued the Trump administration, that makes the Trump admin the defendant and they are now entitled to discovery and the DEMs must disclose all their data. The DEMs just cut their own throats. The entire DEM house of cards is about to collapse. Trump now gets to see everything on their server and anything else he needs to defend himself. No wonder their symbol is an ass.

The DNC nut job Perez just sued the Trump administ... (show quote)


The one main fact is that the DNC didn't let the FBI check their server. That should let everyone know they had something to hide.

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