PeterS

That's about the only way you can get those 'lefties' in jail because no matter what one might think of Sessions he does seem to believe in the Rule of Law. Rudy, not so much...

PeterS

Damn, you finally said something that I agree with...

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Lefties have hated Rudy since he brought law and order to NYC. It's not surprising that trolls will pretend that it must have been done illegally.

Please list all of the rules of law Rudy showed contempt for.

Oh, you can't, can you? I didn't think so.

Perhaps if you go to a hate site and get some juvenile pictures to post, none of the lefties will notice how empty your argument was.

PeterS

Yeah boy, weeze shore doze hats law and oder....

As for ole law and order Rudy--I guess it should be said that he loved law and order so long as he could use it to suppress those around him.

Snip<<The Haitians absconding from “Baby Doc” Duvalier’s Haiti met a different fate. Giuliani negotiated an agreement with the Coast Guard to intercept incoming Haitian ships and send them back. Refugees, risking everything to board ramshackle boats that often capsized, were forced to return to the place they were so desperate to escape.

The Haitians that managed to reach the States were placed in overcrowded detention centers. Some were shipped to Puerto Rico’s Fort Allen, which an attorney fighting the decision warned would be “used as a concentration camp” and wasn’t fit for humans.

It was the Krome detention center in Miami that earned the most notoriety, however. Thousands of refugees were kept in overcrowded conditions, some longer than eighteen months. Those detained at Krome eventually launched a hunger strike and attempted to escape. But while one top official admitted the refugees were in “jail,” Giuliani dissented, arguing the refugees were “not held behind bars.”

Giuliani also insisted the refugees were economic refugees, not political ones — a crucial distinction, as the latter necessitated that the US grant them asylum. “They left because they were starving,” he said, and so “do not fit the definition of refugee.” In court, Giuliani (falsely) claimed that “no political repression” existed in Haiti and that he had received a personal assurance from Duvalier that returning refugees weren’t being persecuted. “There is not a problem, a major problem, a systematic problem of political repression in Haiti,” he testified.

The core issue, Giuliani told Barron’s National Business and Financial Weekly in 1983, was the country’s ability to control its own borders, as well as the rights of those immigrants who came to the US legally — who “play by the rules and have not gotten into boats and planes and crashed in.” Giuliani saw himself as the victim, professing that he “was personally hurt” that people were accusing him of being a racist.

He complained that television cameras “would show these pathetic people sort of holding hands and kissing each other, and then say that this man and wife were separated by this cruel vicious government.” But, he said, “these people don’t come over with marriage certificates,” and “they keep claiming that different people are their wives.” He added that “if you let the men into the women’s camps, they go around raping them.”

Giuliani’s actions under Reagan showed a disturbing willingness to crack down on not just refugees, but society’s most marginalized. And of course, immigration was just one area in which Giuliani meted out draconian measures against those he viewed as the enemy...


And even if the number of prosecutions he later boasted about were less impressive than he made them seem, his formidable record as a prosecutor is undeniable.

But it came at a cost. In the process of taking the fight to well-heeled criminals — and tirelessly chasing the associated publicity — Giuliani often ran roughshod over basic civil liberties.

Amid a sea of fawning profiles of Giuliani in the 1980s, the New York Civil Liberties Union’s Richard Emery sounded the alarm, accusing Giuliani in an op-ed of resorting “to an array of extreme measures that threaten the presumption of innocence and the right to an adequate defense in six criminal trials.” These included freezing the assets of the accused (thereby restricting their ability to pay for attorneys) and using “carefully orchestrated press conferences, news releases and luridly phrased indictments” to convict them in the court of public opinion.

In one infamous incident, Giuliani used allegations of tax fraud to indict the investment firm Princeton/Newport Partners on racketeering charges. He dispatched fifty armed federal marshals kitted out in bulletproof vests to raid and lock down its offices, and demanded pretrial forfeitures worth tens of millions of dollars, prompting spooked investors to abandon the firm, which was consequently liquidated. Despite the hoopla, the firm’s conviction was later overturned on appeal, and the IRS found it had actually overpaid its taxes.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Great.

1. Post a link to your c&p.
2. I scanned your c&p and found nothing unusual or proof of wrongdoing.

Criminal asset freezes happen hourly.

"Drakonian", "wearing bullet proof vest" "carefully orchestrated" "concentration camp" are all emotional whines, not a logical argument.

Your post sounded like a Colbert hate-rant.

Again, list your source.

cold iron Loc: White House

LOL, we can hope.