PeterS

I'm an atheist so Islam wouldn't be mine. As a fundamentalist you are much closer to Islam than I can or ever will be...

PeterS

The society you have a desire to return to. Your wayback machine doesn't return you to a better time but to a time where we denied the reality of the world that we lived in.

JW

I fear that the assumptions you have made about me are too far from reality to engage in a meaningful dialogue with you on this subject. Let me just say that you have no idea what the society is that I would like to see created nor do you grasp the reasons why. There are aspects of the past that were far more beneficial to us humans than some of what is occurring today and some of today's progress is far superior to the past.

What is required is an intelligent blending of the best of both times and a rejection of the failed and failing social conditions of both eras. That can only happen by understanding why some things were/are beneficial and other were/are not.

Your attitude is reminiscent of that of Pizarro and his religious cadre. Because they had no understanding of the Inca language, they burned all of the Inca Libraries. Like them, your eyes are closed to the benefits of the past and can see only your indoctrination. You would have made a good priest in Pizarro's army. You may be an atheist but your attitudes are very priestly.

JW

The equality you found in my words was of your own invention. There is no equality in the sense you posit, never has been and never will be. Equality under the law may make opportunity universal but it does nothing for individual results. Individual ability is not applicable to an entire subset of individuals. The fact that a woman or a man made a good leader does not translate to women or men as a group.

As hard as it is for you Liberals to understand, nature cannot be removed from the human animal. We are as subject to natural impulses and natural flaws as any other animal. We may have a superior intellect when compared to our animal cousins but that is also questionable in the vast number of human actions that can be observed every day, everywhere. That is especially evident in comments like the following, "It's the equality of men and women that allows us to be the best that we can be and to build a future that otherwise might never be possible." That is the purest, unvarnished, fully attenuated mental Pablum found in every Leftist playbook.

What has allowed humans to dominate the planet is our ability to turn almost everything on the planet into food.

PeterS

JW wrote: "In the last 50 years, women have been reduced from a treasured possession to a casual convenience. A treasure is protected and cherished. A convenience is used without incurring any obligation."

I can only make assumptions based upon what you write. I simply pointed out that women were "treasured" possessions was largely an illusion and that they were treated as possessions and seldom if ever treasured.


What is required is honesty and without it understanding is completely impossible.


My attitudes are priestly? Women were raped, wives were beaten, children were abused and little girls molested. I'm not talking about today but the 50's and 60's a period that most conservatives view as a blissful utopia that they long dreamy eyed at with the hope to one day return to. And no, I am not talking about all women but a large enough sample to destroy the illusion that you are trying to cling to. The single biggest difference between today and the past is that today we are more honest than we ever were in the past.

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

The progressives want to tear apart the traditional family, indoctrinate whatever children are spared by PP, keep the LGBT agenda full speed a head, and cause as many disruption's between the only 2 biological genders in this country we have to further divide us for an easy take-over.
"They" are polluting the minds of weak girly-men and using the victimization card against vulnerable weak women.

Seems to be working in the more populated areas of our country.

It has seemed to have worked in your case Peetee.

Sicilianthing

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Pigeonholing ?

Wow now that takes it all... just wow.

Richard Rowland

How do you get crushing the serpent's head out of this? By the way, the serpent has no heels.

Richard Rowland

"Transcend the boundaries established by nature," really? When you get control of a hurricane, let me know. Yeah, I know what you're inferring, Planes, trains, and other stuff. You should have inserted the word "some" in that comment.

Radiance3

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Islam's mission is about killing. Christians' mission is about loving as my God taught to me love thy neighbor as myself.

Whereas Islam's command is kill all the Christians and unbelievers.
Is this where you belong?

Sicilianthing

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Bullseye ! And Peter is atheist so they’ll A** Rape Him too and then make him dig his own grave and them kill him too in there...

But he thinks he’s a neutral party and thereby immune to the Disease of Islam and it’s destructive human Violent cancer infecting 1.5billion stupid humans.

JW

JW wrote:
I fear that the assumptions you have made about me are too far from reality to engage in a meaningful dialogue with you on this subject. Let me just say that you have no idea what the society is that I would like to see created nor do you grasp the reasons why. There are aspects of the past that were far more beneficial to us humans than some of what is occurring today and some of today's progress is far superior to the past.


JW wrote: "In the last 50 years, women have been reduced from a treasured possession to a casual convenience. A treasure is protected and cherished. A convenience is used without incurring any obligation."

I can only make assumptions based upon what you write. I simply pointed out that women were "treasured" possessions was largely an illusion and that they were treated as possessions and seldom if ever treasured. An 'assumption' is something you make. It is a result of what happens in your brain, not on my keyboard.

Women were treasured, I know, I was there. Try to comprehend the difference between established societal standards and individual behaviors. As for honesty, there is no difference then than now. What is different is the respect held for individual rights and personal privacy. Today, those things are extinct.

Quote: What is required is an intelligent blending of the best of both times and a rejection of the failed and failing social conditions of both eras. That can only happen by understanding why some things were/are beneficial and other were/are not.

What is required is honesty and without it understanding is completely impossible. Actually, you have that backwards, without understanding honesty is meaningless. You may honestly believe a lie but without understanding, the lie prevails.

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Your attitude is reminiscent of that of Pizarro and his religious cadre. Because they had no understanding of the Inca language, they burned all of the Inca Libraries. Like them, your eyes are closed to the benefits of the past and can see only your indoctrination. You would have made a good priest in Pizarro's army. You may be an atheist but your attitudes are very priestly.

My attitudes are priestly? Women were raped, wives were beaten, children were abused and little girls molested. I'm not talking about today but the 50's and 60's a period that most conservatives view as a blissful utopia that they long dreamy eyed at with the hope to one day return to. And no, I am not talking about all women but a large enough sample to destroy the illusion that you are trying to cling to. The single biggest difference between today and the past is that today we are more honest than we ever were in the past.Again, you have no idea of what 'illusions' I might 'cling to'. Also, again, you fail to distinguish between societal values and individual behaviors.

I'll reiterate, the past was never ideal and neither is the present. The objection Conservatives have with the present, often badly expressed, is not that the 50s were an idyllic time, sadly abandoned, but that the direction of social evolution we are currently following is destructive and untenable.

DaWg44

Pete, I will pray for you. You do not deserve the name of Peter. If you think being an atheist will save you from Islamic wrath, you might need to read the Koran. Seems like to me, I remember you being fair game too.

Sicilianthing

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Peter is an Atheist Fool and Muslim Apologist