Ricktloml

As a Christian, I would respectfully suggest you spend some time in study of the Bible to find out "what is in store for you". Since you are an intelligent and erudite man you will no doubt find the answer to your question.

And may I say good luck, and God bless you and lead you to the answers you seek

Ricktloml

You know Poppa, I don't have all the answers, (see my response to Loki). But God does, and He loves ALL His children.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Respectfully to you, I have spent countless hours doing so. I used to be a proofreader for a small religious publishing company. What I find in the Bible is frequently at odds with what is taught as Christianity by mainstream churches. I refer you to the observance of Christmas, Easter, and the failure to observe Passover. Not to mention the Sunday Sabbath and the list goes on and on. A first century Christian observing a modern day church service would likely think it some sort of pagan observance and would not be that far wrong. I do not denigrate Christianity, but what is being peddled as Christianity.
At the time of our country's founding there were many people (mistakenly called Deists) who styled themselves as Anti-Clerical Christians. These were Christians who eschewed the secular oriented religions of convenience peddled by the Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England, along with several other denominations that were popular at the time.

Ricktloml

I'm not surprised that you have studied the Bible, and agree with your assessment of Easter, Christmas and the lack of observing Passover, as well as the Bible being at odds with "mainstream churches", which in my opinion often concentrate on teaching the traditions of men, not the Word of God. But I do believe that ALL the answers we seek CAN be found in that Word of God. Thanks for responding

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

Very well stated. If a person can't believe the first five words of the Bible, they can't believe.

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

There is much I have to disagree with this post. But, I have work tomorrow and have to retire. Will save and address this later. You can not say God/Allah, two different theologies. Can not put the two together as one and the same. Will deal with the rest of this uneducated post later.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Please allow me to inform you on the points of this post.

1. As I understand it, Boggis, Christians believe that God (1a. ) is reincarnated as human in order to "save" humans from their innate "wickedness" (according to Wesley), and so thusly they can enter the "Kingdom of Heaven".
1. God created us for his pleasure. He did not create us evil or wicked. We and the angels have a free will. God wants us to love Him as He loves us, but He will not force us. (1 a) Jesus was the incarnation ( not re-) of God, prophesied in the Old Testament to be Emanuel, or translated, God with us, the Prince of peace, the Great God.

2. However, a human must acknowledge their wickedness, and then "accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior", in order to have a heavenly afterlife.
2. The Bible ( Jesus(John 3:16)) days, "Whosoever believeth in Him (Jesus) shall not perish, but have everlasting life'. What do you have to believe? That Jesus' blood shed on the cross was sufficient to pay you sin debt. That's it !

3. (For myself, I have always wondered why God/Allah would bother creating a wicked species, "a worthless piece of crap", if you will.
3. Allah is a recycled moon god (false) and nothing cannot create anything. On the other hand, Jesus said when we pray, to call God, our creator, 'Father". Would a father not want to save His children from eternal damnation?

And then decide to "save" him.
4. Also, if this worthless piece of crap is created in the image of God/Allah, what kind of God has his hands on the world, anyway?)
4. We were created with the same emotions that the Godhead has; love , compassion, jealousy , and anger. Isaiah 1;18 says,"Come now, let us reason together............." so if we can be reasonable, how much more so God?

5. Furthermore, they are assured of a "place in heaven" no matter whatever other "sins" they incur thereafter.
5. Basically true, but at the judgement seat of Christ, rewards will be given to those who have done God's work, and those who haven't will see their works burned up and they will suffer loss....
Corinthians 3: 13-15
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

6. And also, and this is why I wondered if you were Christian, Christians believe that all people who do not do this, are doomed to everlasting damnation.
6. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. NO MAN COMETH TO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME.

6a. Now, as to the "moon god" worshiped by Muslims, you really need to do your own research, and stop relying on hearsay.
6a. A false god, and the prophet Muhammad was a murdering thief and a pedophile ( he was married to a nine year old). I'm not making this up. Not being bitter, it's just true.

7. I wonder too if God can be reincarnated as human. For this reason: humans are part of space-time-material reality, meaning they are time dependent. God/Allah is time independent. Having existence only in space and time signifies that an entity or object must undergo change and eventual decay. That can never happen with a God who is also a creator. God never changes. People do.
7. You are trying to impose the laws of the universe on the entity that created said laws.

Justinian in 529 AD, closed the School of Athens. I believe it was because the study of Aristotle would have resulted in the obvious heresy---for Christians---that Jesus could not have had a Divine Nature.
Interestingly, Isaac Newton was of that same mind, after having been exposed to classical Greek learning.
8. Yet, I will not try to change a person's faith or belief, UNLESS I find it aggravates suffering, and doesn't mitigate it.
8. Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Sounds like an mitigation of suffering to me. So...what DO you believe and WHAT do you base it on.

9. And I'm pretty sure the entire world knows that I feel Christianity is the most intolerant and childish of religions
9. Not to criticize but to inform; To put it very simply, God chose the Jews to be his missionaries to the world, but they refused time and time again. They put themselves under the law. After the death and resurrection of Jesus, He chose Paul to be THE disciple to the gentiles, or us. Romans through Philemon was written for us, the gentiles, and we are told what to do after we have our own salvation. We are to work to spread the gospel (good news) as far and to whom ever will receive it, so that all might be saved. This is God's will (and His word).

10. . The very fact that a Christian works for only his own salvation, tells me it is a selfish, childish way of thinking.
10 Earlier in you post you said '. Furthermore, they are assured of a "place in heaven" no matter whatever other "sins" they incur thereafter.'
??????????????? So, do they have to work or just get a free ride?
10. These two statements conflict with each other. Even so, a Christian does not work for THEIR salvation, but for the salvation of others. Their own salvation is a gift from a loving God and requires nothing more than to believe in Jesus. All of the work is for others.

Please, do not use this God/Allah. It's apples and oranges. Jehovah is real, Allah is not. Islam is right, there is only one God, but He is not Allah.

John 3:18
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

I will pray that you find Jesus and let him come into your life.


Oh yeah....If I have to pick a superior, Christianity or Islam, think of this...Jesus died for US...allah wants Islam to die for HIM. I'll take Christianity any day.

Ricktloml

Well said!

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I would like to debate you about this humans are part of a space, time, material reality, and God /Allah is time independent.

Also about this decaying I hope you don't me me, I would like to also get your ideas about how dark matter is pertinent to decomposition, is this is a pleasure of purpose or a fracture of existence projecting reality as a different dimension?.

There are many other matters I want to discuss with you, looking east towards the sun rise of your wisdom.

Your lover boy Roddie.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

OK. Yes, we live in linear time and God does not, so he can see our beginning, our middle, and our ending. However, allah only lives in the imaginings of misguided men and not in any reality or plane of existence. He is not real.
I don't know about what you said about dark matter. From what I gather, ( and I'm no expert), all we know about it is that it exists and has atomic weight and therefore creates gravity. While we can't see it, collect it, experiment on it, or even identify it, we know it MUST be there because of the interactions of heavenly bodies with each other that would be different if it didn't exist.
I can see you like science and all, but beware because mankind does NOT know everything.

Maximus Marcus Lucius Claudius Verrillius III

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Where did you hear that we live in linear time and God does not, that's obviously inaccurate, we came after Allah that's for sure, and God was before Him, many believe that the symmetry between Dark matter and Antimatter is proof of beginning, this particular beginning as a Universe expanding closed out Antimatter I think entirely, and the symmetry is that Dark Matter will do the same in 14 billion years from now, Antimatter was annihilated at the beginning Dark matter will be at the ending.

To say God began it and Allah will finish it seems to be an overview of a hidden subject, but isn't that what a reflection is ?.

The image in the mirror isn't in the mirror at all, in this case Antimatter is starting right back at Dark Matter holding the Universe together, gravity can't cut it, the theory of general relativity is Einstein's incorrect analogy of "space time" which has been debunked by Friedman and Hubble.

Now, everything is proportional to movement driven by forces some consistent others not, so time is the independent relationship between disassociated forces and associated patterns of physical parameters forming a transparent block, hence the missing image is explained Antimatter and Dark matter as a common mirror image.

Also, outside of relationship between moving material substance in this Universe time can also be seen as, and in view of limited concentration on your part that I'm acutely aware of I will jump over the explanation about the "Prism of Crossing", that's what I calls it anyway, and reiterate God began what Allah finishes because epistemology is a cognitive processes, that's what I tell my Salafist Brothers and Sisters only I tells them a deeper explanation that would go over your head.

Considering the association of one Universe to the next as a sequence of single events is of paramount importance, not only for hermits, but particularly so because each Universe is like us hermits as "one out".

Single-universe is why hermits have this propensity to know about such matters, the Universe and me are like two sides of a page in a Heavenly Book, now, about the next Universe only Allah knows for sure what I will be, I could be a page and a bit.

And it doesn't stop there, so I go on to the third one after that, improving all the time, probably always organising complexion to be the same colour as God as He's turning to become Allah, the name of the colour starts with a r and ends with a d.

I am the covert operator, shaping up to be the Smooth Operator, where he hell is that woman when you need her?.

If you subscribed to Tara Shears who works at the Large Hadron Collider you'd know all this stuff already and wouldn't need me to explain it.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

I do not believe any who follow God are condemned, period..

Religion has many denominations... God is as you know him in your heart and through your faith..

God-is referred to by many names~ Father/Abba, "Most High" and the Hebrew names Elohim, El-Shaddai, Yahweh, Jehovah and Adonai. Abba (Father) is a common term used for the creator within Christianity because it was a title Jesus used to refer to God the Father....Along with many more..

The name you use does not define God as anything other than the one above who gives agaping love to all whom follow him or in our human form try to do so..

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I've often brought all of those considerations to the light of day while trying not being agnostic about it, fundamentally we express what we find to be our best consideration for ourselves and the give it a Social distinction.

I haven't been there yet, I have been a bit busy lately, continually making the same mistakes, but I read good things about faulty thinking, someone on Quora (I'm Terry Loder on Quora Terence is my middle name) presenting "Alison and Carter " 2006.
1. It's faulty to think that it's virtuous to defend personal beliefs while also thinking it's morally reprehensible for those beliefs to be questioned publically.
2. Collective rationalisation is a necessary format for function to take place in, and the quandary is that "group think" is the essence of closed mindedness.
3. Stereotyping leads to the underestimation of those considered to be inferior.
4. Pressure towards uniformity incurs 'a group members practice' of self-censorship to in order to create unanimity.
6. The illusion of invulnerability brought on by past success causes a delusion of moral superiority.

This is in-group opposed to out-group, and that is probably where the concept of judgment comes from, the strongest individuals have either a dilemma or a challenge to fabricate a social group-think that incorporates the out-group credibly.

That's why pundits who work on the Ideologies, Religions, Philosophies are the best people who get to be listed in Heaven, see you there.

Afterthought.

It's probably wrong to project personal interests onto society, I don't think it works anyhow, however I do feel a duty to keeping trying so as to know the truth of the matter.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

An honest mistake never went astray either.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

I heard that God does not exist in linear time from an astrophysicist....sorry that I can't remember his name. In linear time, for us at least, we exist only in the second that exists now, because a second ago exists only in our memory, and one second ahead of us cannot be experienced until it becomes the second that exists now. You can't be killed by a bullet that was fired yesterday, or by one that will be fired tomorrow until tomorrow becomes now. God does NOT exist in this time frame, but has access to any time because he created it.
Once again, allah does not exist any more than Zeus or Mercury or Athena does. Also I am not concerned with a multiverse, as I will never be hit by a train from the number 187549037 universe. If that universe DOES exist, then it will be ruled by the ONE God Yahweh, as this one is. If string theory is real, then God devised it. If the big bang is real, then God said 'Let there be expansion'.
Since matter, visible or dark, cannot be destroyed, it will always be with us. Antimatter may not exist in large quantities anymore, but that doesn't mean that small amounts of it don't exist in sparse areas of space, at least until it contacts matter.
The LHC is in no way connected with God's truth. I am only concerned with God's truth because it is what I have faith in to save me from hell and to get me top heaven to live forever. The works of mankind are not held in this belief.
Please...please.....don't throw allah at me anymore, as you yourself said he is a recycled moon god ie; a false god ( one that does not exist).