KiraSeer2016

As I understand it, Boggis, Christians believe that God reincarnated as human in order to "save" humans from their innate "wickedness" (according to Wesley), and so thusly they can enter the "Kingdom of Heaven". However, a human must acknowledge their wickedness, and then "accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior", in order to have a heavenly afterlife. (For myself, I have always wondered why God/Allah would bother creating a wicked species, "a worthless piece of crap", if you will. And then decide to "save" him. Also, if this worthless piece of crap is created in the image of God/Allah, what kind of God has his hands on the world, anyway?)
Furthermore, they are assured of a "place in heaven" no matter whatever other "sins" they incur thereafter.
And also, and this is why I wondered if you were Christian, Christians believe that all people who do not do this, are doomed to everlasting damnation.

Now, as to the "moon god" worshipped by Muslims, you really need to do your own research, and stop relying on hearsay.
I wonder too if God can be reincarnated as human. For this reason: humans are part of space-time-material reality, meaning they are time dependent. God/Allah is time independent. Having existence only in space and time signifies that an entity or object must undergo change and eventual decay. That can never happen with a God who is also a creator. God never changes. People do.
Justinian in 529 AD, closed the School of Athens. I believe it was because the study of Aristotle would have resulted in the obvious heresy---for Christians---that Jesus could not have had a Divine Nature.
Interestingly, Isaac Newton was of that same mind, after having been exposed to classical Greek learning.
Yet, I will not try to change a person's faith or belief, UNLESS I find it aggravates suffering, and doesn't mitigate it.

And I'm pretty sure the entire world knows that I feel Christianity is the most intolerant and childish of religions. The very fact that a Christian works for only his own salvation, tells me it is a selfish, childish way of thinking.


The above is my response to a poster on Russia Insider, just now:


boggis the cat > Kira Binkley •


No, I am Christian. Not all Christians are the same, just as not all Muslims are. (Or all Jews, or any other variation of believers in the one God.)

I don’t understand how the system of worship in Islam (or Judaism, which is very similar) would work as well as the Christian acceptance of the Holy Spirit. Our version of ‘Islam’, bowing before God, is to allow personal direction by God. Muslims reject the idea that God can do this, and also reject that He can be incarnated in a human vessel (the Jewish Messiah, or the Christ that gives our religion its name) — but we have shared beliefs and ideas in most areas.

Some Christians are hostile to Muslims (and / or Jews), considering such people to be (deliberately, in some cases) worshipping false gods — Muslims worship a ‘moon god’ is what I have heard, and are thus ultimately being deceived (or willingly serving the enemy of God). Some Christians see enough commonality to consider hostility foolish (where I fit): then a large majority are fairly vague about their religion anyway, so don’t much care.

I get the impression that the ‘moon god’ people are dying out (literally), and Christianity is becoming more inclusive. My view is that this was the entire point that Jesus Christ was for — God extending His acceptance from the Jews out to all people: and these people did not have to follow the Judaic Law — and so is part of His unfolding plan for humanity.

KiraSeer2016

I wonder if this is the only way, this Christianity of "sinful human nature", and absolution by a god-human sacrifice is the only teaching that could have converted the German barbarians.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

1 point.

God creates man with free will. If you can't choose to sin then you can't choose not to.

God gives us all a path to heaven. Jesus' redemption. And it's free.

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

Why do you spend time and effort trying to prove that God doesn’t exist,it can’t be done so why bother,what’s in it for you.People that believe freely admit it’s a matter of faith so again what’s your point ?A non believer is someone that can’t admit there is something greater than themselves,a very sad place to be when all you have to do is look around and see that isn’t true.

NannyPat39

When man was created he was sinless. He had everything that he needed in the Garden of Eden. God gave Adam a mate, Eve, together they could roam freely, pet the animals, eat all they wanted. The only thing they were told not to do was to eat the fruit of the tree of the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil. Like all humans, when told not to do something, they wanted to try that fruit. Once they did that they knew right from wrong. From that time forward all people have been born with a sinful nature. As time went on man became more and more sinful. God decided to start over so he flooded the earth and only Noah found favor with God. When Noah and his family let the ark the winning began again. Finally God chose Abraham to be the beginning of a line of people we know as the Jews. Over the centuries God save His people from danger, let them lose battles, win battles and sin over and over again. He would tell them how to win but they would diobey His directives. Finally God saw that His people needs a way out of their sins. Up to this point they had to give sacrifices of pure, unspotted animals. Now He sent His Son to teach them and they hated Him. Some Jews chose to follow Jesus but so Did many, many Gentiles. The leaders of the Jews hated Jesus so much they wanted to kill Him. They got their chance and Jesus was crucified on a cross. All who believe that He is the way, the, truth, and the life can become a child of God. We must confess our belief in, Jesus as God's Son, be baptized and try to live our neighbor as ourselves. When we sin we can go to Jesus in prayer and our sins will be forgiven. That is why we call ourselves CHRISTIANS.8

Forkbassman Loc: Missouri

Very well said!

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

What about we Jews who do not subscribe to the tenets of Christianity? Are we doomed to Christianity's Hell?

Loki Loc: Georgia

I am neither Christian, Jew, or Atheist. I wonder what's in store for me?
(Not Muslim either, BTW)

Loki Loc: Georgia

20,706± 52,044±
What, you may ask, is the significance of these numbers? It is the approximate number of dead and wounded, respectively that resulted from Muslim terror attacks, mostly on civilian targets since about 1979. You mentioned that some Christians are hostile to Muslims. I wonder why?

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

As a Christian, I'd say it's not good.
I suppose a Jew would agree.
A Muslim would tell you if you want a virgin you'd better hurry up.

Big Kahuna

Once these muslims acquire these virgins, unfortunately they will perform clitoral mutilation so the virgin can not enjoy sex and no other muslim would want to steal her from another barbaric muslim. Then the muslim would be enraged because she can not enjoy sex and would then start another insurrection in paradise. There goes paradise as the muslims turn paradise into hell just as they are turning liberty loving people on earth into a living hell on earth.

Loki Loc: Georgia

I thought I explained the little glitch about those 72 virgins.

NannyPat39

No, not at all. Jesus, the Messiah, will return at a time of God's choosing. At that time many faithful Jews will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem and will believe in Him. They will inherit eternal life just as faithful Christians will. God is a loving, merciful God who gives us every chance to live eternally with Him.

NannyPat39

Well, I don't have good news for you. In order to live in heaven eternally we must confess Jesus as Lord of our life. We must confess (to God) our sins and be baptized. Then we must live a live with 2 commands from Jesus. "Love the Lord your God with all you heart, soul and mind and your neighbor as yourself." Because Jesus died for our sins we can pray and ask for forgiveness and we will be forgiven. God says He does not remember our sins once we confess and ask forgiveness. This is what we must do to go to heaven otherwise we will be condemned to he'll.

NannyPat39

When Jesus was on earth, teaching a love of God and man. He told those who questioned Him about God and how to follow Him: "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except by Me." there is no other way to eternal life in heaven with God but through confession that Jesus Christ is Lord.