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Jan 11, 2018 22:44:47   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Mark Lavin identifies the forces that are assaulting america as the Monarchists of old. They never died, they just changed their costuming. They were the Communists. They were the Nazi. They are the Antifa. They are using weaknesses in our system to destroy us. We must understand what the weaknesses are and how to repair them. What is it that the Framers of the Constitution wrote?

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Jan 11, 2018 23:27:40   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Love Mark Levin, have several of his books in my library. He is a voice crying, screaming for all true Patriots to listen, and heed. Sometimes I'm afraid he is going to stroke out. What the Framers wrote was, "WE THE PEOPLE". We have given up OUR POWER, believing that our elected will do it what WE THE PEOPLE elected them to do. What they promised us they would do, only to be elected or re-elected.
Richard Mondale wrote:
Mark Lavin identifies the forces that are assaulting america as the Monarchists of old. They never died, they just changed their costuming. They were the Communists. They were the Nazi. They are the Antifa. They are using weaknesses in our system to destroy us. We must understand what the weaknesses are and how to repair them. What is it that the Framers of the Constitution wrote?

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Jan 12, 2018 03:46:47   #
glibona Loc: Nevada
 
Agreed...Also listen to Levin on radio and CRTV. conventionofstates.com Article V.

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Jan 12, 2018 08:21:44   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Love Mark Levin, have several of his books in my library. He is a voice crying, screaming for all true Patriots to listen, and heed. Sometimes I'm afraid he is going to stroke out. What the Framers wrote was, "WE THE PEOPLE". We have given up OUR POWER, believing that our elected will do it what WE THE PEOPLE elected them to do. What they promised us they would do, only to be elected or re-elected.

Have you ever noticed that each Congressman represents 800,000 people. Each district has the same list of concerns: traffic, water, sewer, power, jobs, etc. And, all he knows about who voted for his is he got more than the other guy. We have 534 identical representatives. They don't even know our names. If someone is going to represent you shouldn't they know your goals, your preferences, and certainly your needs? Your Congressman doesn't.

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Jan 12, 2018 14:34:17   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
Have you ever noticed that each Congressman represents 800,000 people. Each district has the same list of concerns: traffic, water, sewer, power, jobs, etc. And, all he knows about who voted for his is he got more than the other guy. We have 534 identical representatives. They don't even know our names. If someone is going to represent you shouldn't they know your goals, your preferences, and certainly your needs? Your Congressman doesn't.


All a Congressman needs to know is :
WHAT DOES THE PARTY WANT FROM ME.
If he figures that out & dose it he can have the job as long as he wants it.

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Jan 12, 2018 17:52:17   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
All a Congressman needs to know is :
WHAT DOES THE PARTY WANT FROM ME.
If he figures that out & dose it he can have the job as long as he wants it.

This is the unfortunate truth of the Government as it has developed today. We are to be represented, but as you point out Congressmen follow their party. They are party animals.

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Jan 12, 2018 18:44:47   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Exactly, this is what we have to change. We elect them to represent us, not the Party. We have continued electing the same people, may have a different name, once they get to Washington they change. Instead of representing us, WE THE PEOPLE, they represent themselves. They become part of the SWAMP.
Floyd Brown wrote:
All a Congressman needs to know is :
WHAT DOES THE PARTY WANT FROM ME.
If he figures that out & dose it he can have the job as long as he wants it.

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Jan 12, 2018 18:58:12   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Exactly, this is what we have to change. We elect them to represent us, not the Party. We have continued electing the same people, may have a different name, once they get to Washington they change. Instead of representing us, WE THE PEOPLE, they represent themselves. They become part of the SWAMP.

They follow the rules. What is it about the rules that create this outcome?

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Jan 12, 2018 19:12:45   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
They have construed the Constitution and made their own rules. We have allowed them to do this.
Richard Mondale wrote:
They follow the rules. What is it about the rules that create this outcome?

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Jan 12, 2018 20:23:56   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
They have construed the Constitution and made their own rules. We have allowed them to do this.

My Daddy claimed that he was in the room when it happened. The Founders considered a tyrant to be an autocrat who can set the agenda and then implement it, so when the Framers wrote the Constitution they divided these powers and gave them to different entire separate branches, and then made sure that no one holding an office in one branch is allowed to have one in the other branch. All of this just so no tyrant can set the agenda and then implement it. I was reading The Complete Works of Thomas Jefferson, from Library of America, and found in his proposal to limit borrowing by Congress, an aside. He said, to Madison, please apply your considerable mental faculties to this. It will go well with what we have already put into the document. Specifically where we took the power to declare war away from the Executive. (from those who can spend; to those who can pay) The parenthesis are his. Thus spending is not supposed to be a Congressional ability. The annual Spending bill is unconstitutional.

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Jan 13, 2018 14:21:40   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
They follow the rules. What is it about the rules that create this outcome?


Of course they follow the rules.

Rules they make.

The problems we face have become deeply in grained it to the system.

It is only with deep insight in to issues that it all can be seen.

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Jan 13, 2018 18:41:59   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Of course they follow the rules.

Rules they make.

The problems we face have become deeply in grained it to the system.

It is only with deep insight in to issues that it all can be seen.

That is true. It is like a tree. It grows into a tree because it started from a tree seed. The seed of this Government was planted October 20, 1789. What was wrong with that seed? What were we supposed to become? What are you looking at?

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Jan 13, 2018 22:55:39   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
That is true. It is like a tree. It grows into a tree because it started from a tree seed. The seed of this Government was planted October 20, 1789. What was wrong with that seed? What were we supposed to become? What are you looking at?


Well if you were a white male with assets it was good for you.

If you were poor, female or black you didn't do so well.

If you are poor, female or black today things have not been as good for you as it could have been.

There has not been much progress for many.

Far be it from me to complain on a personal level.
I am a white male with assets.

There is a lot of unrest in the world today.
I feel that if more people have what I have, there would be less problems in the World.

If one was to add it all up.
It would come up as having a bit more than some & a lot less than others.
Just put it as being some what in the middle.

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Jan 14, 2018 19:30:35   #
Richard Mondale Loc: Montana
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Well if you were a white male with assets it was good for you.

If you were poor, female or black you didn't do so well.

If you are poor, female or black today things have not been as good for you as it could have been.

There has not been much progress for many.

Far be it from me to complain on a personal level.
I am a white male with assets.

There is a lot of unrest in the world today.
I feel that if more people have what I have, there would be less problems in the World.

If one was to add it all up.
It would come up as having a bit more than some & a lot less than others.
Just put it as being some what in the middle.
Well if you were a white male with assets it was g... (show quote)

Yes some folks are being left out. There are reasons for that. The system we have, got this way because it was supposed to. Have you ever noticed that when we vote, the minority loses. The majority wins. Up to half of the population loses and is silenced and is not listened to because they lost. Doing that for 250 years has an effect. It is hard to run the race if you have to push a bowling ball.

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Jan 15, 2018 05:11:41   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Richard Mondale wrote:
Yes some folks are being left out. There are reasons for that. The system we have, got this way because it was supposed to. Have you ever noticed that when we vote, the minority loses. The majority wins. Up to half of the population loses and is silenced and is not listened to because they lost. Doing that for 250 years has an effect. It is hard to run the race if you have to push a bowling ball.


Just how do you address who wins & who loses.
What are people to win or lose?
We are at a time & place that it is the Few that win & most will only break even at best.
There is a big hole in your logic.

No It don't have to be about winning or losing.

It is about having a system that creates the best situations for people to live with.
The more people involved the better.
There being more for some is fine.
But some going with out important items of life is not.

To think & believe it is not & people deserve to lose is counter to any reason for human life.
Human life can only have redeeming value if there is cooperation.

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