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Dec 4, 2017 09:04:07   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Are you aware that a creche is not considered, under law, to be a religious symbol? The Supreme Court ruled,
it is instead an instance of “ceremonial deism.” See Lynch v. Donnelly, 1984. So, if a city wishes to erect a creche, a Christmas Tree or a symbol of the made up holiday, Kwanzaa, then they have every right to do so. Likewise, no one can tell a city to erect a creche or even a Christmas Tree (which is pagan), or Christmas lights (also pagan) or set a table for Kwanzaa.

Morgan wrote:
I love the Nativity scene too but perfectly content seeing them throughout the towns or cities placed on the grounds or steps of Churches, where they belong, not for example on the courthouse steps, technically a lit tree or Christmas lights is generic enough to be accepted and celebrate the season, why push it?

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Dec 4, 2017 09:05:59   #
Morgan
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Where is hell?


Hell, straightforwardly is a place for spiritual training.Hell is inside yourself living in the basement of spirituality.
Existing in this lower 3rd dimension, of consciousness and the physical world, full of hatred, anger, insatiable desire, envy and dissatisfaction and ego. And if you pass on with these traits intact in your inner core/soul, you cannot ascend to the next higher level, so you will stay saturated in your own juices of negative energy of painful unhappiness. JMO

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Dec 4, 2017 09:11:42   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Morgan wrote:
Hell, straightforwardly is a place for spiritual training.Hell is inside yourself living in the basement of spirituality.
Existing in this lower 3rd dimension, of consciousness and the physical world, full of hatred, anger, insatiable desire, envy and dissatisfaction and ego. And if you pass on with these traits intact in your inner core/soul, you cannot ascend to the next higher level, so you will stay saturated in your own juices of negative energy of painful unhappiness. JMO
Hell, straightforwardly is a place for spiritual t... (show quote)


OK

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Dec 4, 2017 09:13:44   #
Morgan
 
lindajoy wrote:
I agree with you .. I think pushing it is because Christianity is under attack and as we have seen as example the over reach in removing statutes etc people have plenty of passion about their religion..


Passion for your faith is fine, keep it within your personal life and your chosen church or not. I have not found Christianity under attack, that in my opinion is pure propaganda.

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Dec 4, 2017 09:14:44   #
Morgan
 
Bad Bob wrote:
OK


well you did ask, just one person's opinion.

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Dec 4, 2017 09:19:36   #
Morgan
 
Kevyn wrote:
A day is a day, the Bible is the literal word of god. If the Bible says he made the world in six days who are you or anyone else to challenge the fact?


I suppose knowing what calendar they used at that time would help, maybe this would explain how Adam lived to a ridiculous age in our terms, of 960 years old...?

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Dec 4, 2017 09:20:41   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Bad Bob wrote:
When does Trump go to church?


Why should you care ?

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Dec 4, 2017 09:24:02   #
moldyoldy
 
http://www.facebook.com/archdukedostuff/videos/1495102277184294/

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Dec 4, 2017 09:26:15   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Morgan wrote:
well you did ask, just one person's opinion.


Yes I did, now I just got to figure out how to put it in my GPS.

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Dec 4, 2017 09:29:33   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
4430 wrote:
Why should you care ?


I just thought it was important to the bible thumpers Cowboy.

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Dec 4, 2017 09:34:07   #
Morgan
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Are you aware that a creche is not considered, under law, to be a religious symbol? The Supreme Court ruled,
it is instead an instance of “ceremonial deism.” See Lynch v. Donnelly, 1984. So, if a city wishes to erect a creche, a Christmas Tree or a symbol of the made up holiday, Kwanzaa, then they have every right to do so. Likewise, no one can tell a city to erect a creche or even a Christmas Tree (which is pagan), or Christmas lights (also pagan) or set a table for Kwanzaa.


No, I didn't realize that pertaining to the creche, thought it to be true for a Christmas tree and no not on the Kwanzaa, that doesn't make sense, actually, either does the creche. A lit tree or lights I believe can be considered nonreligious as there isn't any religious symbol adjoining it. With all of this ceremonial stuff, it's all-inclusive or none at all, the people need to decide to accept others or not. I feel if it doesn't represent any form of hate and only love and compassion we can manage to stay neutral during their celebrated day or embrace others form of spirituality.

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Dec 4, 2017 09:36:04   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Morgan wrote:
No, I didn't realize that pertaining to the creche, thought it to be true for a Christmas tree and no not on the Kwanzaa, that doesn't make sense, actually, either does the creche. A lit tree or lights I believe can be considered nonreligious as there isn't any religious symbol adjoining it. With all of this ceremonial stuff, it's all-inclusive or none at all, the people need to decide to accept others or not. I feel if it doesn't represent any form of hate and only love and compassion we can manage to stay neutral during their celebrated day or embrace others form of spirituality.
No, I didn't realize that pertaining to the creche... (show quote)



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Dec 4, 2017 09:36:13   #
Morgan
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Yes I did, now I just got to figure out how to put it in my GPS.


Good one ,you're funny

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Dec 4, 2017 09:42:46   #
Lonewolf
 
Morgan wrote:
No, I didn't realize that pertaining to the creche, thought it to be true for a Christmas tree and no not on the Kwanzaa, that doesn't make sense, actually, either does the creche. A lit tree or lights I believe can be considered nonreligious as there isn't any religious symbol adjoining it. With all of this ceremonial stuff, it's all-inclusive or none at all, the people need to decide to accept others or not. I feel if it doesn't represent any form of hate and only love and compassion we can manage to stay neutral during their celebrated day or embrace others form of spirituality.
No, I didn't realize that pertaining to the creche... (show quote)



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Dec 4, 2017 09:43:49   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Kevyn wrote:
A day is a day, the Bible is the literal word of god. If the Bible says he made the world in six days who are you or anyone else to challenge the fact?


That's a question, not a challenge. Do you know the difference?

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