Roman Catholicism And Islam: Bound Together By Pontifical Praise
Nov 30, 2017 10:08:15 #
Armageddon,
Don't worry about my salvation, I'm already saved by Jesus Christ and his one true Catholic-Universal Church, I'm worried about your Salvation.
Here are the facts and omissions as to this Christian OPP post article and the inaccurate interweaving of scriptural judgement and subsequent Anti-Catholic opinions made by Zemirah;
Here is the actual French La Croix Newspaper interview with Pope Francis on April 17, 2017. (English Translation)
Does this Papal interview even remotely resemble Zemirah posted article, Roman Catholicism And Islam: Bound Together By Pontifical Praise
https://www.la-croix.com/Religion/Pape/INTERVIEW-Pope-Francis-2016-05-17-1200760633
The #1 error is the word for word, French Catholic newspaper interview with Pope Francis and article from "La Croix," and URL link to this article ? It's nowhere to be found.
Do you think Zemirah, preached many anti-Catholic lies. These were not in the La Croix interview. That is what is so disgusting and factual untrue in this blatant hypocritical truth by Zemirah.
This reply and Catholic rebuttal is not to be misconstrued as a Catholic ranting's, but is for a defense of Catholicism and It's Christ centered theology and teachings. In which Zemirah and others have repeatedly attacked, abused Catholics and Catholic OPP members on this forum.
Tell me Armageddon, would you just idly stand by and let these abuses to continue. It's no different than inappropriate sexual abuse to women by men. Just a two-sided analogy, here for you to ponder on. And do we allow this abuse to continue ? Is it reportable to Admin ?
Maybe that is the direction that we are headed here. More "Censoring on the OPP forum ? You decide if this is the best course of action here.
This rebuttal is an objective Christian Catholic analysis as to the real personal human nature of "So Called", Christian Protestant Evangelicals and Independent Christians sects here on this OPP forum website.
Here are some important Catholic facts in regards to this article post thread.
1. The Catholic Church teachings, of Jesus Christ words and his salvation, Sacred Oral Church Traditions, The Apostles, The Popes, Catholic Doctors of the Church, and Infallibility of the Magisterium teaching has not changed for 1985 years. . . . Got it. . . . There is no ambiguity here.
2. Yes, Popes are men, and (Yes they Pope's are fallible), and (Yes they Pope's sin) and (Yes they Pope's error). That said, we move on to the next question
3. But not in regards to the Christ centered Infallibility of the Magisterium teaching of the Pope, in respects to Infallibility Magisterium teaching of the Catholic Church, they are both one, and both infallible. On this Roman Catholic teaching of Jesus Christ's infallibility. . . . Got it. . . . The Catholic Church teaching Magisterium pays strict attention to Jesus Christ's Words and His Teachings. . . . Got it. . . .
Let me explain further, . . . as to what was just said here, so we can move forward on this specific point.
So in-essance, as to this OPP "Fallacious" monstrosity posted by Zemirah, on Pope Francis, on the Catholic Church and the Infallibility Magisterium teaching arm of the Catholic Church.
a. "They are not," I repeat, they are not exclusively, "One and the Same," of these three organization. But are within the confines of Catholic Church."
b. The Pope can be both personally, and politically fallible. . . . Got it. . . . (See Vatican I) on Papal infallibility.
c. The Pope can-not be Infallible in Magisterium teaching of the Catholic Church. . . . Got it. . . .
Do you get now get the confusing big picture that Protestants have with; a. Papal infallibility, b. And Papal infallibility in regards to infallibility of Magisterium teaching arm of the Catholic Church.
There is a major distinction and fallibility in Pope Francis's personal and political remarks as a individual, his independent worldly view held by Pope Francis.
These are Pope Francis remarks and are not of the Catholic Church teaching, to its Church members, or of the Christ centered infallibility of Catholic Magisterium teaching. Although Pope Francis's words have been interpreted and they have also been taken out of context.
Just read the preceding and ending paragraph in his interview. This is what readers of the scriptural Bible do.
This is exactly where's where Zemirah gets it all wrong, in his OPP Christian Religious Post and basis for his French Catholic "La Croix," Media reported article. "Roman Catholicism And Islam: Bound Together By Pontifical Praise."
"Sarcastically," unbeknownst to Zemirah, he would never overtly portray the Catholic Church inaccurately, and factually combine three Catholic separate distinction groups, into one" into his OPP article post.
Bravo Zemirah, as to your a crafty heretical and masterful Protestant Evangelical obtuse lying remarks. . . . Zemirah, stand-up and take a bow, for Protestant posterity sakes. . . . On this article post.
Has Zemirah committed a Catholic, "Venial sin or a Mortal sin here." . . . And do we give him and others, the objectionable continued literary license to post anti-Catholic garbage on this OPP forum.
You be the judge of that, OPP Readers ?
So what's the problem here with the article title post, "Roman Catholicism And Islam: Bound Together By Pontifical Praise?"
Let's break this down in the most simplest argumentative terms
a. It's nothing, I repeat It's a "nothing burger" article post. It's just a political-religious opinion made by Pope Francis. (Are we clear now on this issue, and topic of Catholic Papal infallibility ?)
b. Here is what was said, In Pope Francis own words and all other Catholic Pope's dialogue's on Islam. With no news media interview reaction.
1. Vatican Council statements, (first URL link).
2. Past Papal statements on Islam, (first URL link).
3. United States Conference of Catholic Bishop's on Islam, (first URL and second URL web site and links).
a. http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/ecumenical-and-interreligious/interreligious/islam/vatican-council-and-papal-statements-on-islam.cfm
b. http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/ecumenical-and-interreligious/interreligious/interreligious-documents-and-news-releases.cfm
c. Here is what has been written in the News-Media commentary about what Pope Francis said, e.g. media propaganda.
1. Five observations on Francis’ recent interview about France, Europe, and Islam
http://www.catholicworldreport.com/2016/05/18/five-observations-on-francis-recent-interview-about-france-europe-and-islam/
2. Did the Pope say ISIS was just like Jesus?
https://thecatholicgeeks.com/2016/05/19/did-the-pope-say-isis-was-just-like-jesus/
3. Pope Francis La Croix compares Islam's Inherent drive for Conquest to Christ's great commission.
https://international.la-croix.com/search/pope-francis-la-croix-compares-islam-s-inherent-drive-for-conquest-to-christ-s-great-commission-
4. La Croix releases English translation of Papal interview
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/05/17/la_croix_releases_english_translation_of_papal_interview_/1230436
5. https://angelusnews.com/content/full-text-of-may-13-in-fligh
d. Here is what Zemirah came up with his OPP Post article facts, his Anti-Catholic innuendo, supposition's, exaggeration's and hypocritical truth's, and empty rhetoric fallacies. These opinions are not found in the French Catholic "La Croix," Media reported article.
1. They both have an unbiblical Jesus who cannot save their souls.
2. Sadly, Catholicism also has a false Christ, teaching that His death on the cross was not sufficient for our salvation.
3. They say His sacrifice (which, according to the Scriptures, was offered once for all to take away our sins completely (Hebrews: 9:28) be
continually "re-presented" as a daily sacrifice for sins, thousands of times, around the world.
4. Catholics then, must also expiate their own sins through sufferings on earth and after death in purgatory. This is "another gospel" than
that taught by Holy Scripture.
5. No! What is "urgent" is that Catholics and Muslims be set free from the spiritual bondage of the impossible task of qualifying for heaven
by their own good deed.
6. Veneration and worship of Mary among Roman Catholics.
7. Catholic and Islamic prayers are similar, the prayers are always repetitive.
The "Wow-List" continues, adnausesium.
Let's see how much Pope Francis religious political fallible words and ecumenism to Muslim's have changed. And how Zemirah has combined outrageous opinions and statements to a unparalleled anti-Catholic bigotry and hate of the Pope and the Catholic Church.
This is what the real issue at hand here on this religious OPP post thread.
And other Anti-Catholic articles posted and the Anti-Catholic agenda by Zemirah, mwdegutis, Dummy Boy and others.
So we can only speculate separate and summarize what Zemirah has opined, and taken out of context and what Zemirah has added to this papal and anti-Catholic Church commentary.
It sure isn't trying to save my soul for Jesus Christ. . . . It sure isn't Christian ecumenism outreach to other Christian communities and organizations.
No Armageddon, I'm just being Christian-frank with no guile with-in me.
Their is just so much vehement anti-Catholic anger, even hatred with repeated articles faithless christian opinion's lies and anti-Catholic hostility towards myself and Padre-Mike, it's exasperating that these individuals can even live with them-selves.
How un-Christian-like can anyone be.
Zemirah, mwdegutis, Dummy Boy reminds me of a old film black and white Stan and Ollie comedy production. A "tit-for-tat," routine, you do something wrong to me, and I'll do one better "wrong to you." And it repeatedly escalates to absurdity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obZZ6tU9soA
So what's wrong about the Popes viewpoint on Islam ? And The Popes ecumenism outreach to the Muslim communities ? Could be held as fallible and error ? You figure it out, I don't really care one way or the other.
It's the Popes viewpoint and has nothing to so with's Jesus Christ's teaching and the infallibility of the Catholic Magisterium teaching.
This is what is problematic with Zemirah, mwdegutis, Dummy Boy, bahmer
Let's get back to the Infallibility of the Catholic Magisterium teaching.
The Magisterium defines doctrine and concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church, or of a similar declaration by an ecumenical council. e. g. Council of Trent, Vatican I, and II. such solemn declarations of the church's teaching involve the infallibility of the Church. "Bishops are teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff, are to be respected by all as witnesses to divine inspired Christ and Catholic truth.
In matters of faith and morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent. This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra;
There is no ambiguity or Infallibility here on this religious subject.
Christ's Catholic teaching has never changed or wavered. An example; Abortion, Women Priests, Gay Marriage, over half of protestant churches side with abortion Women Priests, as well as Gay Marriage, 70 years ago this would never be heard of or tolerated.
Have Catholics Changed, The Answer is NO . . .
What happened to the 50,000 denomination Christian Protestant Churches doctrine and concerning faith or morals ?
Jesus never taught this in the bible ? And no where can this teaching be found scripturally in the Holy Bible.
If so, show me Book, Chapter and Verse.
a. Why do Protestants always say Catholics are not Christians ? For 1517 years Christian Catholics adhered never changed in Magisterium Christ centered scriptural teaching. And the next 500 years ? What's changed since the Catholic reformation. Nothing. . . .
It's only the Protestant schism and heresy, and the attack by Protestants. Justification, Sola Scriptura-Bible-only and Sola-Fide-Faith-alone.
All Roman Catholic Ecumenical Councils, do-not contradict one another from Jesus's teaching, Sacred Oral Traditions, The Apostles, The Popes, Catholic Doctors of the Church, and the infallible magisterium of the Church teaching: e.g.
a. Especially the Council of Trent, Reaffirmed Catholic teaching and matters of decree on Justification.
b. Vatican I, definition of papal infallibility:
The First Vatican Council declared that, "all those things are to be believed with divine and Catholic faith which are contained in the Word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church, either by a solemn judgment or by her ordinary and universal teaching magisterium, proposes for belief as having been divinely revealed."
c. And Vatican II.
These councils always reaffirm the original Christ's centered teaching, there is no change e.g The the Magisterium it never wavers, it is the Churches Teaching Arm, the. The Old and New Testament, Sacred Catholic Oral Tradition. The three legged stool.
Unlike Protestantism, which picks and choses doctrine and theology as it seems to fit the 50,000 plus religious sects and denominations. And can not be found Scripturally.
Show me Book chapter and verse ? Protestantism can't !
1. Notably the King James Bible. Tell me why do Catholic bibles have seven more (Deuterocanonical) books?
Dave Armstrong; http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2015/09/why-7-more-books-in-catholic-bibles.html
2. Show me, Book, Chapter and Verse in the Bible on: Justification, Sola Fide, and Sola Scriptura.
a. Bet you can't, because Jesus Christ never taught this.
b. The Holy Spirit Jesus and God the Father cannot be in conflict with one another.
c. But is in conflict with the Protestant Schism.
This is no different from any heresy. Heresy has been a concern in Christian communities at least since the writing of the Second Epistle of Peter: "even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them" (2 Peter 2:1).
While in the first two or three centuries of the early Church heresy and schism were not clearly distinguished and a similar overlapping occurred in medieval scholastic thought, heresy is understood today to mean the denial of revealed truth as taught by the Church. Nineteenth-century theologian Friedrich Schleiermacher defined it as "that which preserved the appearance of Christianity, and yet contradicted its essence".
Doc110
Don't worry about my salvation, I'm already saved by Jesus Christ and his one true Catholic-Universal Church, I'm worried about your Salvation.
Here are the facts and omissions as to this Christian OPP post article and the inaccurate interweaving of scriptural judgement and subsequent Anti-Catholic opinions made by Zemirah;
Here is the actual French La Croix Newspaper interview with Pope Francis on April 17, 2017. (English Translation)
Does this Papal interview even remotely resemble Zemirah posted article, Roman Catholicism And Islam: Bound Together By Pontifical Praise
https://www.la-croix.com/Religion/Pape/INTERVIEW-Pope-Francis-2016-05-17-1200760633
The #1 error is the word for word, French Catholic newspaper interview with Pope Francis and article from "La Croix," and URL link to this article ? It's nowhere to be found.
Do you think Zemirah, preached many anti-Catholic lies. These were not in the La Croix interview. That is what is so disgusting and factual untrue in this blatant hypocritical truth by Zemirah.
This reply and Catholic rebuttal is not to be misconstrued as a Catholic ranting's, but is for a defense of Catholicism and It's Christ centered theology and teachings. In which Zemirah and others have repeatedly attacked, abused Catholics and Catholic OPP members on this forum.
Tell me Armageddon, would you just idly stand by and let these abuses to continue. It's no different than inappropriate sexual abuse to women by men. Just a two-sided analogy, here for you to ponder on. And do we allow this abuse to continue ? Is it reportable to Admin ?
Maybe that is the direction that we are headed here. More "Censoring on the OPP forum ? You decide if this is the best course of action here.
This rebuttal is an objective Christian Catholic analysis as to the real personal human nature of "So Called", Christian Protestant Evangelicals and Independent Christians sects here on this OPP forum website.
Here are some important Catholic facts in regards to this article post thread.
1. The Catholic Church teachings, of Jesus Christ words and his salvation, Sacred Oral Church Traditions, The Apostles, The Popes, Catholic Doctors of the Church, and Infallibility of the Magisterium teaching has not changed for 1985 years. . . . Got it. . . . There is no ambiguity here.
2. Yes, Popes are men, and (Yes they Pope's are fallible), and (Yes they Pope's sin) and (Yes they Pope's error). That said, we move on to the next question
3. But not in regards to the Christ centered Infallibility of the Magisterium teaching of the Pope, in respects to Infallibility Magisterium teaching of the Catholic Church, they are both one, and both infallible. On this Roman Catholic teaching of Jesus Christ's infallibility. . . . Got it. . . . The Catholic Church teaching Magisterium pays strict attention to Jesus Christ's Words and His Teachings. . . . Got it. . . .
Let me explain further, . . . as to what was just said here, so we can move forward on this specific point.
So in-essance, as to this OPP "Fallacious" monstrosity posted by Zemirah, on Pope Francis, on the Catholic Church and the Infallibility Magisterium teaching arm of the Catholic Church.
a. "They are not," I repeat, they are not exclusively, "One and the Same," of these three organization. But are within the confines of Catholic Church."
b. The Pope can be both personally, and politically fallible. . . . Got it. . . . (See Vatican I) on Papal infallibility.
c. The Pope can-not be Infallible in Magisterium teaching of the Catholic Church. . . . Got it. . . .
Do you get now get the confusing big picture that Protestants have with; a. Papal infallibility, b. And Papal infallibility in regards to infallibility of Magisterium teaching arm of the Catholic Church.
There is a major distinction and fallibility in Pope Francis's personal and political remarks as a individual, his independent worldly view held by Pope Francis.
These are Pope Francis remarks and are not of the Catholic Church teaching, to its Church members, or of the Christ centered infallibility of Catholic Magisterium teaching. Although Pope Francis's words have been interpreted and they have also been taken out of context.
Just read the preceding and ending paragraph in his interview. This is what readers of the scriptural Bible do.
This is exactly where's where Zemirah gets it all wrong, in his OPP Christian Religious Post and basis for his French Catholic "La Croix," Media reported article. "Roman Catholicism And Islam: Bound Together By Pontifical Praise."
"Sarcastically," unbeknownst to Zemirah, he would never overtly portray the Catholic Church inaccurately, and factually combine three Catholic separate distinction groups, into one" into his OPP article post.
Bravo Zemirah, as to your a crafty heretical and masterful Protestant Evangelical obtuse lying remarks. . . . Zemirah, stand-up and take a bow, for Protestant posterity sakes. . . . On this article post.
Has Zemirah committed a Catholic, "Venial sin or a Mortal sin here." . . . And do we give him and others, the objectionable continued literary license to post anti-Catholic garbage on this OPP forum.
You be the judge of that, OPP Readers ?
So what's the problem here with the article title post, "Roman Catholicism And Islam: Bound Together By Pontifical Praise?"
Let's break this down in the most simplest argumentative terms
a. It's nothing, I repeat It's a "nothing burger" article post. It's just a political-religious opinion made by Pope Francis. (Are we clear now on this issue, and topic of Catholic Papal infallibility ?)
b. Here is what was said, In Pope Francis own words and all other Catholic Pope's dialogue's on Islam. With no news media interview reaction.
1. Vatican Council statements, (first URL link).
2. Past Papal statements on Islam, (first URL link).
3. United States Conference of Catholic Bishop's on Islam, (first URL and second URL web site and links).
a. http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/ecumenical-and-interreligious/interreligious/islam/vatican-council-and-papal-statements-on-islam.cfm
b. http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/ecumenical-and-interreligious/interreligious/interreligious-documents-and-news-releases.cfm
c. Here is what has been written in the News-Media commentary about what Pope Francis said, e.g. media propaganda.
1. Five observations on Francis’ recent interview about France, Europe, and Islam
http://www.catholicworldreport.com/2016/05/18/five-observations-on-francis-recent-interview-about-france-europe-and-islam/
2. Did the Pope say ISIS was just like Jesus?
https://thecatholicgeeks.com/2016/05/19/did-the-pope-say-isis-was-just-like-jesus/
3. Pope Francis La Croix compares Islam's Inherent drive for Conquest to Christ's great commission.
https://international.la-croix.com/search/pope-francis-la-croix-compares-islam-s-inherent-drive-for-conquest-to-christ-s-great-commission-
4. La Croix releases English translation of Papal interview
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/05/17/la_croix_releases_english_translation_of_papal_interview_/1230436
5. https://angelusnews.com/content/full-text-of-may-13-in-fligh
d. Here is what Zemirah came up with his OPP Post article facts, his Anti-Catholic innuendo, supposition's, exaggeration's and hypocritical truth's, and empty rhetoric fallacies. These opinions are not found in the French Catholic "La Croix," Media reported article.
1. They both have an unbiblical Jesus who cannot save their souls.
2. Sadly, Catholicism also has a false Christ, teaching that His death on the cross was not sufficient for our salvation.
3. They say His sacrifice (which, according to the Scriptures, was offered once for all to take away our sins completely (Hebrews: 9:28) be
continually "re-presented" as a daily sacrifice for sins, thousands of times, around the world.
4. Catholics then, must also expiate their own sins through sufferings on earth and after death in purgatory. This is "another gospel" than
that taught by Holy Scripture.
5. No! What is "urgent" is that Catholics and Muslims be set free from the spiritual bondage of the impossible task of qualifying for heaven
by their own good deed.
6. Veneration and worship of Mary among Roman Catholics.
7. Catholic and Islamic prayers are similar, the prayers are always repetitive.
The "Wow-List" continues, adnausesium.
Let's see how much Pope Francis religious political fallible words and ecumenism to Muslim's have changed. And how Zemirah has combined outrageous opinions and statements to a unparalleled anti-Catholic bigotry and hate of the Pope and the Catholic Church.
This is what the real issue at hand here on this religious OPP post thread.
And other Anti-Catholic articles posted and the Anti-Catholic agenda by Zemirah, mwdegutis, Dummy Boy and others.
So we can only speculate separate and summarize what Zemirah has opined, and taken out of context and what Zemirah has added to this papal and anti-Catholic Church commentary.
It sure isn't trying to save my soul for Jesus Christ. . . . It sure isn't Christian ecumenism outreach to other Christian communities and organizations.
No Armageddon, I'm just being Christian-frank with no guile with-in me.
Their is just so much vehement anti-Catholic anger, even hatred with repeated articles faithless christian opinion's lies and anti-Catholic hostility towards myself and Padre-Mike, it's exasperating that these individuals can even live with them-selves.
How un-Christian-like can anyone be.
Zemirah, mwdegutis, Dummy Boy reminds me of a old film black and white Stan and Ollie comedy production. A "tit-for-tat," routine, you do something wrong to me, and I'll do one better "wrong to you." And it repeatedly escalates to absurdity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obZZ6tU9soA
So what's wrong about the Popes viewpoint on Islam ? And The Popes ecumenism outreach to the Muslim communities ? Could be held as fallible and error ? You figure it out, I don't really care one way or the other.
It's the Popes viewpoint and has nothing to so with's Jesus Christ's teaching and the infallibility of the Catholic Magisterium teaching.
This is what is problematic with Zemirah, mwdegutis, Dummy Boy, bahmer
Let's get back to the Infallibility of the Catholic Magisterium teaching.
The Magisterium defines doctrine and concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church, or of a similar declaration by an ecumenical council. e. g. Council of Trent, Vatican I, and II. such solemn declarations of the church's teaching involve the infallibility of the Church. "Bishops are teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff, are to be respected by all as witnesses to divine inspired Christ and Catholic truth.
In matters of faith and morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent. This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra;
There is no ambiguity or Infallibility here on this religious subject.
Christ's Catholic teaching has never changed or wavered. An example; Abortion, Women Priests, Gay Marriage, over half of protestant churches side with abortion Women Priests, as well as Gay Marriage, 70 years ago this would never be heard of or tolerated.
Have Catholics Changed, The Answer is NO . . .
What happened to the 50,000 denomination Christian Protestant Churches doctrine and concerning faith or morals ?
Jesus never taught this in the bible ? And no where can this teaching be found scripturally in the Holy Bible.
If so, show me Book, Chapter and Verse.
a. Why do Protestants always say Catholics are not Christians ? For 1517 years Christian Catholics adhered never changed in Magisterium Christ centered scriptural teaching. And the next 500 years ? What's changed since the Catholic reformation. Nothing. . . .
It's only the Protestant schism and heresy, and the attack by Protestants. Justification, Sola Scriptura-Bible-only and Sola-Fide-Faith-alone.
All Roman Catholic Ecumenical Councils, do-not contradict one another from Jesus's teaching, Sacred Oral Traditions, The Apostles, The Popes, Catholic Doctors of the Church, and the infallible magisterium of the Church teaching: e.g.
a. Especially the Council of Trent, Reaffirmed Catholic teaching and matters of decree on Justification.
b. Vatican I, definition of papal infallibility:
The First Vatican Council declared that, "all those things are to be believed with divine and Catholic faith which are contained in the Word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church, either by a solemn judgment or by her ordinary and universal teaching magisterium, proposes for belief as having been divinely revealed."
c. And Vatican II.
These councils always reaffirm the original Christ's centered teaching, there is no change e.g The the Magisterium it never wavers, it is the Churches Teaching Arm, the. The Old and New Testament, Sacred Catholic Oral Tradition. The three legged stool.
Unlike Protestantism, which picks and choses doctrine and theology as it seems to fit the 50,000 plus religious sects and denominations. And can not be found Scripturally.
Show me Book chapter and verse ? Protestantism can't !
1. Notably the King James Bible. Tell me why do Catholic bibles have seven more (Deuterocanonical) books?
Dave Armstrong; http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2015/09/why-7-more-books-in-catholic-bibles.html
2. Show me, Book, Chapter and Verse in the Bible on: Justification, Sola Fide, and Sola Scriptura.
a. Bet you can't, because Jesus Christ never taught this.
b. The Holy Spirit Jesus and God the Father cannot be in conflict with one another.
c. But is in conflict with the Protestant Schism.
This is no different from any heresy. Heresy has been a concern in Christian communities at least since the writing of the Second Epistle of Peter: "even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them" (2 Peter 2:1).
While in the first two or three centuries of the early Church heresy and schism were not clearly distinguished and a similar overlapping occurred in medieval scholastic thought, heresy is understood today to mean the denial of revealed truth as taught by the Church. Nineteenth-century theologian Friedrich Schleiermacher defined it as "that which preserved the appearance of Christianity, and yet contradicted its essence".
Doc110
Dec 1, 2017 03:39:52 #
Doc110,
Your behavior is neither explainable, or acceptable.
It is a total misrepresentation on your part to claim this topic which I created, (and which you have chosen to repeatedly attack as though you had owner's rights), is, or was ever intended to be, based on one sentence, which was quoted in many newsletters, not one inclusive French paper, as you imply.
This is the only quote from Francis on that occasion:
“It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam," he said. "However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest."
This was universally reported.
Other sources of information are throughout my article, from Vatican I, Vatican II, Bible verses, the Qur'an, the Hadith, a quote from John Paul, etc., etc.
Because you obviously cannot tolerate anyone writing anything about Catholicism without your implicit approval, in the future refrain from commenting on any thread I create.
I suggest you read God's Holy Word.
Any corrections you have for Holy Scripture, you may discuss with our blessed Lord in prayer.
Your behavior is neither explainable, or acceptable.
It is a total misrepresentation on your part to claim this topic which I created, (and which you have chosen to repeatedly attack as though you had owner's rights), is, or was ever intended to be, based on one sentence, which was quoted in many newsletters, not one inclusive French paper, as you imply.
This is the only quote from Francis on that occasion:
“It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam," he said. "However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest."
This was universally reported.
Other sources of information are throughout my article, from Vatican I, Vatican II, Bible verses, the Qur'an, the Hadith, a quote from John Paul, etc., etc.
Because you obviously cannot tolerate anyone writing anything about Catholicism without your implicit approval, in the future refrain from commenting on any thread I create.
I suggest you read God's Holy Word.
Any corrections you have for Holy Scripture, you may discuss with our blessed Lord in prayer.
Dec 1, 2017 19:37:51 #
Doc,
I am sorry that you are so angry. James tells us that the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God. You have written a rather lengthy reply to my post. I beg your patience as I try to digest the information you supplied. The one item that stood out that you questioned was why do Protestants have 50,000 variations ( I hope this is the proper word, you have to forgive me, I'm just an old redneck country boy), of the same truth?
The one thing that God gave His highest creation (man), was volition, the right to choose. I will give your reply an honest study give me a while. Like Arnold Swaenaggertzypq I'll Be Back or like General Mc Arthur, I shall return.
I am sorry that you are so angry. James tells us that the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God. You have written a rather lengthy reply to my post. I beg your patience as I try to digest the information you supplied. The one item that stood out that you questioned was why do Protestants have 50,000 variations ( I hope this is the proper word, you have to forgive me, I'm just an old redneck country boy), of the same truth?
The one thing that God gave His highest creation (man), was volition, the right to choose. I will give your reply an honest study give me a while. Like Arnold Swaenaggertzypq I'll Be Back or like General Mc Arthur, I shall return.
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