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Oct 23, 2017 19:02:19   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
hejohnson43 wrote:
The whole article was about the assassination of J.F.K. I keep forgetting that most of you were not alive when he got killed. I will try to be more informative next time.


I was 4 years old

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Oct 23, 2017 19:04:42   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Nickolai wrote:
In the months leading up to the 2016 United States presidential election, stories abounded about the relationships between the Clinton Foundation and various foreign entities.
May 2015 saw the publication of a book called Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich, an exposé of alleged Clinton Foundation corruption written by Peter Schweizer, a former Hoover Institution fellow and editor-at-large at the right-wing media company Breitbart.
A chapter in the book suggests that the Clinton family and Russia each may have benefited from a “pay-for-play” scheme while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, involving the transfer of U.S. uranium reserves to the new Russian owners of an international mining operation in exchange for $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation.
The mining company, Uranium One, was originally based in South Africa, but merged in 2007 with Canada-based UrAsia Energy. Shareholders there retained a controlling interest until 2010, when Russia’s nuclear agency, Rosatom, completed purchase of a 51% stake. Hillary Clinton played a part in the transaction because it involved the transfer of ownership of a material deemed important to national security — uranium, amounting to one-fifth of U.S. reserves — thus requiring the approval of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), on which the U.S. Secretary of State sits.
During the same time frame that the acquisition took place, Schweizer claims in Clinton Cash, the Clinton Foundation accepted contributions from nine individuals associated with Uranium One totaling more than $100 million. Among those who followed him in citing the transaction as an example of alleged Clinton corruption was GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, who said during a June 2016 speech in New York City: (Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved the transfer of 20% of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation. )

Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law, the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters. A key fact ignored in criticisms of Clinton’s supposed involvement in the deal is that the uranium was not — nor could it be — exported, and remained under the control of U.S.-based subsidiaries of Uranium One, according to a statement by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:'

Of the $145 million allegedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation by Uranium One investors, the lion’s share — $131.3 million — came from a single donor, Frank Giustra, the company’s founder. But Giustra sold off his entire stake in the company in 2007, three years before the Russia deal and at least 18 months before Clinton became secretary of state. 
Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer, the company’s chairman:
In the months leading up to the 2016 United States... (show quote)


Thanks for the skirting done by NY Times no less.. You did read their journalist admissions of planned Targeting of Trump a couple days back didn't you??

I'll wait for the investigation of Mueller, Podesta s now belly up green company with lucrative financial ties to the Russian Green Company and all the rest to weigh in...

Tell me how does a Podesta or Hills for that fact have billions to invest in Russia based operations and what about Soros involvement now coming to light and bills 500,!000 speech fees??

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Oct 23, 2017 19:07:54   #
hejohnson43 Loc: Portal, Ga.
 
I was on KP in a mess hall in Grafenwohr, Germany when I heard J.F.K. got killed in Dallas.

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Oct 23, 2017 19:29:37   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
hejohnson43 wrote:
The whole article was about the assassination of J.F.K. I keep forgetting that most of you were not alive when he got killed. I will try to be more informative next time.

I wouldn't be surprised if 75% of OPP posters were alive at the time of J.F.K.'s assassination. I suspect, at close to 69, I'm about middle of the pack.

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Oct 23, 2017 20:50:41   #
Nickolai
 
hejohnson43 wrote:
We might not know who pulled the triggers, but we should be able to figure out who ordered it. My money is on the CIA, who JFK wanted to do away with. Plus there was a lot of Cuban's that were pissed off at him because he pulled the air support that was to cover the invasion of Cuba. Most people don't realize that the CIA put Castro in power in the first place.






How did the CIA do that. I knew that the CIA had infiltrated Castro's band of fighters but Castro gained power because the people joined his army raided Bautista's military outposts to get weapons and when Castro came down from the mountains with his army Bautista's army threw down their weapons and fled I don't see where the CIA came into the picture here

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Oct 23, 2017 20:52:40   #
Nickolai
 
iFrank wrote:
As I was saying, the other dumb pres. didn't do anything to make it available to the public. They just let the date get postponed, That's all. Is that clear lefty.






The other dumb president you refer too did not have the power to speed up the time table mandate in 1992

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Oct 23, 2017 20:56:13   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
slatten49 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if 75% of OPP posters were alive at the time of J.F.K.'s assassination. I suspect, at close to 69, I'm about middle of the pack.


Oswald, three shots from a 6.5 mm Italian carbine. Range abt. 1000 yds. , a very simple shot that any Marie trained marksman could make, and he was so trained.

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Oct 23, 2017 21:08:10   #
Nickolai
 
hejohnson43 wrote:
It was said back in the middle 60's that all information would be held a secret for 50 years. It has been over 50 years, 54 years to be exact. I would guess that some of the people who ordered the killing are still alive, or someone who was involved in the killing is still alive. I believe his name is George H.W. Bush.




https://youtu.be/OzaQz9vtGg8
I haven't seen any evidence that HW Bush was involved directly but he was in Dallas that day and he has said he can't remember where he was that day.. How could anyone not remember where they were that day. Jackie climbed on the Trunk of the car to retrieve a piece of Kennedy's skull. And watch LBJ duck when the first shot rang out

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Oct 23, 2017 21:10:36   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PeterS wrote:
The Kennedy records were sealed and Trump was the first president to have the opportunity to unseal them.

1. Why couldn't other presidents un-seal them?
2. If the facts don't point to some bizarre conspiracy will you accept them?

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Oct 23, 2017 21:12:44   #
teabag09
 
Permie, you are right on this and so is Kyven. There will be so much ink wasted redacting any documents coming out.

Between JFK saying he wanted to do away with the CIA and the Federal Reserve, you figure out who had him killed. Shouldn't be hard.

Google the CIA to see what branch of Govt. they belong to. Might surprise you. Our Govt. is totally out of control as far as the welfare of the American people are concerned. Be prepared, some bad stuff could be coming down the pike. Heard on the news today that some shithead in congress is proposing going after our 401s, 435s etc., bank accounts will be next. I've moved most of my money out of banks and everything where electronic/ digital is concerned. Imagine you got to the store and your ATM won't work, go to your bank and again, won't work. Credit Cards aren't usable. You go to your bank to get stuff out of your deposit box but the doors are locked. What will you do then? Protect yourself. Bad people are planning bad things for the sheeple. Gold, silver, lead and long lasting food and water. Mike
permafrost wrote:
trump did nothing to further this.. It has been scheduled by law from 1992.

trump could block the release, but release date had nothing to do with him..

Do a quick search if you wish.. near every article will contain this information..


The release of the information being held in secret at the National Archives — including several thousand never-before-seen documents — was mandated to occur by Oct. 26 under a 1992 law that sought to quell conspiracy theories about the assassination.

Mr. Trump has the power to block the release of the documents, and intelligence agencies have pressured him to do so for at least some of them. The agencies are concerned that information contained in some of the documents could damage national security interests.
trump did nothing to further this.. It has been sc... (show quote)

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Oct 23, 2017 21:17:31   #
Nickolai
 
lindajoy wrote:
Thanks for the skirting done by NY Times no less.. You did read their journalist admissions of planned Targeting of Trump a couple days back didn't you??

I'll wait for the investigation of Mueller, Podesta s now belly up green company with lucrative financial ties to the Russian Green Company and all the rest to weigh in...

Tell me how does a Podesta or Hills for that fact have billions to invest in Russia based operations and what about Soros involvement now coming to light and bills 500,!000 speech fees??
Thanks for the skirting done by NY Times no less..... (show quote)





I don't get the NYT so I'm not what sure what your talking about As for George Soros The Koch Brothers are billionaire libertarians that spend large sums on right wing causes and I know of at least two libertarian billionaires in the SF bay area that does the same. Soros had bad experiences in his native country under fascism and Stalinism and sees elements of fascism in the American right so he spends large sums for what he believes in so what?

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Oct 23, 2017 21:19:58   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
Nickolai wrote:
The other dumb president you refer too did not have the power to speed up the time table mandate in 1992


Got some verifiable facts or is that your opinion, any one could have wrote an E.O. and got it done, but they didn't have the fortitude. Do you know the limits of POTUS?

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Oct 23, 2017 21:26:28   #
Nickolai
 
peter11937 wrote:
Oswald, three shots from a 6.5 mm Italian carbine. Range abt. 1000 yds. , a very simple shot that any Marie trained marksman could make, and he was so trained.







Oswald could not have made those shots with that weapon the sight wasn't even sighted in and there was a tree between the window and the two motorcycle officers that were riding in the left rear behind the presidential vehicle. Both motorcycle officers were splattered with brain tissue. One officer, Bobby Hargis, was struck so hard that he thought that he had been hit with a bullet on that day. Pieces of the president's skull were found in the left rear. This nullifies the concept that Kennedy's head was moving towards a shooter. Was there a conspiracy? Multiple shots from multiple directions prove this fact.

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Oct 23, 2017 21:30:10   #
Nickolai
 
Super Dave wrote:
1. Why couldn't other presidents un-seal them?
2. If the facts don't point to some bizarre conspiracy will you accept them?





Do you mean facts =similar to the facts in the 9-11 Commission report ?

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Oct 23, 2017 21:47:49   #
hejohnson43 Loc: Portal, Ga.
 
Who do you think supported Castro with money and weapons?

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