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ICE Confirms Arsonist Behind California Fires Is 5-Time Deported Illegal Alien
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Oct 21, 2017 12:27:42   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
tdsrnest wrote:
It was confirmed that the Las Vegas shooter that stood up of the 32nd floor with 32 legally purchased assault rifles, also 5 bump stocks to make these assault rifles fully automatic. (MURDERED 58 people) injured 487 people and the only option by the right wing is to create and repeal the law deregulating the use of a silencer. Maybe Republicans should be deported you're thoughts


Maybe you could stick to this thread topic.

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Oct 21, 2017 12:34:25   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Randy131 wrote:
"Stupid is as stupid does!" "You reap what you sow!" Interesting how some "mots" prove to be incredibly true.

Liberals prefer to protect these scumbags, for whatever reason that is well beyond me, than to obey and enforce our laws. So what is the cost of this liberal insanity, for which I hope their reasons are very important, for in this case the cost was very great, as 42 people lost their lives, probably all being their neighbors, many homes and businesses being destroyed, and their land destroyed through flames that destroyed everything on it.

I wonder how many Californians must die, and how much of their property and livelihoods must be destroyed, before they decide to obey and enforce our laws, by turning these scumbags over to ICE, where they can be deported in order to protect the American people and their property? This being proven by these 42 Californians whose lives were needlessly lost because they didn't turn this scumbag over to ICE in conjunction with the lawful and official 'Retainer Request' of October 16, 2017? Whomever refused to honor that legal and official 'Retainer Request' of October 16, 2017 should be held partially responsible for the lost of life and destruction of property that this scumbag has been known in the past, and on this occasion, to have committed through his arsonist crimes, that the liberals have continuously allowed to go unpunished in order to be able to maintain their liberal insanity of a "Sanctuary County" for scumbag criminals.

Why are all liberals considered to be pro-lawlessness, with double standards and a dual justice system? Because they refuse to obey and enforce our laws when any of them or their followers are the perpetrators of any and all crimes, as is proven through the example of all that Hillary Clinton had done as Secretary of State, and what her sexual predeator husband Bill Clinton got away with through his entire political career that ended in the Presidency. Bill Clinton's crimes were just as bad as those now being exposed which Weinstein has done, and is being chastised for, soon to be prosecuted and privately sued for, as Bill Clinton's crimes may be even worse than Weinsteain's crimes, including accusations of rape and settlements of many sexual assault cases by both of them.

I have always called the Democratic Party the political party of Satan, because of their denial and suppression of the belief in GOD, and the promoting of violations of GOD's teachings, precepts, and mandates as written in the Bible. But they aslo prove my observations through their active lawlessness and the protection of criminals that they consider to be part of their organizations or belief system, through their double standards and instituted dual justice system.
"Stupid is as stupid does!" "You r... (show quote)


Liberals do not.possess common sense and even when it's painstakingly explained to them they don't get it.

California appears to be on a collision course with suicide. So be it.

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Oct 21, 2017 12:38:13   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
It seems that official "Retainer Requests" are honored by and for all law enforcement agencies across the USA, except for ICE, by liberals in their declared "Sanctuary Areas", there again proving the liberals' dual justice system. I wonder how many of those people who lost one or more of those 42 people who were killed in those fires, care about your proclaimed difference in "Court Orders" versus "Retainer Requests", which both are honored everywhere in the USA, except when conducted by ICE in declared "Sanctuary Areas", where they allow immigrant criminals to walk, even repeat offenders like this scumbag was, for the exact same crimes. I guess you'd have to lose one or more of your loved ones in a situation like this in order for you to start wanting our laws to be enforced everywhere, instead of not enforced where liberals want to protect their own, which is the cause of all the lives and property that were lost in this incident.

Too bad you liberals and progressives believe that all these illegal immigrants are going to save the Democratic Party, instead of just doing what the American people want, in not forcing on them what they detest and don't want, which is the real reason why the Democratc Party has lost over 1,300 political seats across the entire USA over the last 8 years, as Obama and the Democrats forced their will on all the American people, preventing them from living their religious believes and forcing deviancy and depravation on them, while flooding our country with foreigners, many who hate us and desire to destroy us, our country, and our heritage.

This is what the Democrats need to change us from a free people in a capitalistic free market society and government, into a state enslaved people, dependent on federal government handouts through socialistic and communistic control over the American people, which the Democrats plan to replace the aforementioned, when all their foreigners they are flooding the USA with help them bring down our system of governance, destroying the US Constitution, which they claim to be outdated, because it warrants and guarantees the American people their rights and freedoms that the Democrats want to replace with their state controlled privileges for all who obey their commands, while they disobey and refuse to enforce our laws today.



tdsrnest wrote:
Why do Trump supporters continue using the methods of propaganda without actual fact checking this garbage. Breithbart has been spreading fake news for years.

All ICE needed was a court order to hold this guy. The local authorities told ICE if you want this guy get the court order and come and get him. He is being held for arson charges on $100,000 bail for staring a fire in a park to keep warm. But now it's an illegal that started the wild fires. But Breithbart makes a big deal out of nothing in an attempt to scare people. Damm just do a little reseach and read the press release by the local sheriffs department.

But only Trump supporters that never want to deal with facts love spreading this garbage. Only Breithbart and tea party can come up with such a ridiculous conspiracy story. This proves that the Russians are winning the cybor war of disinformation.

It's so sad that this country has come to a land of propaganda, conspiracy theories, and flat out lies. We have a moron running this country not my words but Trump sec of state.
He is a moron just last week he was asked a question as to why he has not spoken about the attack in Niger and he needed to change the narrative and used Obama not calling Gold Star families then put General Kelly into the mix. Then they both lied sent there press Secratary out to lie and double down on there lies. But Trump supporters continue to spread garbage. With this whole gold star controversy the focus goes on Obama and a Florida congress women. But what gets lost is we have 4 dead soldiers in a country that Congress had no idea they were in Niger. And prelim investigation was a massive Intel failure and a president that avoids answering the simplest questions as to why are we there. But Breithbart can write a phony article created by ICE and never report what the local Sheriffs department reported. Telling you this guy got released (Not true) he is still in Jail. Local sheriff still waiting for ICE to show up with the proper legal paperwork in order to turn this guy over to ICE. It's a damm disgrace

Now this garbage it's impossible to fact check all the garbage put out by the right. But MSM is always fake news planted into the minds of Trump supporters because Trump understands that 32% of this country will believe anything he says.
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Oct 21, 2017 12:39:20   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Unfortunately Doc, I think you may be right.



Docadhoc wrote:
Liberals do not.possess common sense and even when it's painstakingly explained to them they don't get it.

California appears to be on a collision course with suicide. So be it.

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Oct 21, 2017 12:43:14   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Moldyoldy claims it's a false story, and he has propaganda from a far left "Fact Check" organization that will tell lies to prove it.


Sicilianthing wrote:
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Yep Awesome Topic... I just posted it too sorry I did not see yours...
Wow just can’t believe these scumbags keep coming... and the Sanctuary Lunatics of California Gov’t keep helping them...

WTF has to happen to end the madness ?

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Oct 21, 2017 13:07:58   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
What the hell do you expect the guilty party that let the perpetrator of this horrendous tragedy and crime loose, to say in defense of his bad decision to not honor ICE's official and legal "Retainer Request", that would have prevented this horrendous tragedy and crime from occurring. Did he also say that the illegal immigrant that he released, with the official federal government "Retainer Request" on him, wasn't arrested in the past for suspicion or arson also, or did he go back in the records and change the reason for that arrest too?

Every time one of these liberal California 'wing-nuts' releases an illegal immigrant criminal, that has a 'Retainer Request" by ICE on them, and they then commit another horrific crime, the ones who releases them always come up with false and unreasonable excuses for doing so, claiming that they have no responsibility in the new crime the illegal immigrants perpetrate on the California people, which would have been prevented had they done their job abd honored ICE's official and legal "Retainer Request".

You have no credibility in the first place, because you have been proven to be very disingenuous in everything that you say, and I believe this too is another case of the same, trying to protect the insane and very stupid decision to allow criminals back on our streets, when ICE has given an official and legal "Retainer Request", so the illegal immigrant can be deported before he commits more crimes, and maybe kills American citizens. The recorded history of these occurences are so great, yet you liberals want to pretend that they never happen.



tdsrnest wrote:
Where does this garbage come from.

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Oct 21, 2017 13:19:48   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
tdsrnest wrote:
It was confirmed that the Las Vegas shooter that stood up of the 32nd floor with 32 legally purchased assault rifles, also 5 bump stocks to make these assault rifles fully automatic. (MURDERED 58 people) injured 487 people and the only option by the right wing is to create and repeal the law deregulating the use of a silencer. Maybe Republicans should be deported you're thoughts


You are insane. Your inability to stick to any topic and the incessant need to interject your vile, hateful spewings into every post is an absolute indicator of your diseased mentality.

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Oct 21, 2017 13:26:33   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Randy131 wrote:
What the hell do you expect the guilty party that let the perpetrator of this horrendous tragedy and crime loose, to say in defense of his bad decision to not honor ICE's official and legal "Retainer Request", that would have prevented this horrendous tragedy and crime from occurring. Did he also say that the illegal immigrant that he released, with the official federal government "Retainer Request" on him, wasn't arrested in the past for suspicion or arson also, or did he go back in the records and change the reason for that arrest too?

Every time one of these liberal California 'wing-nuts' releases an illegal immigrant criminal, that has a 'Retainer Request" by ICE on them, and they then commit another horrific crime, the ones who releases them always come up with false and unreasonable excuses for doing so, claiming that they have no responsibility in the new crime the illegal immigrants perpetrate on the California people, which would have been prevented had they done their job abd honored ICE's official and legal "Retainer Request".

You have no credibility in the first place, because you have been proven to be very disingenuous in everything that you say, and I believe this too is another case of the same, trying to protect the insane and very stupid decision to allow criminals back on our streets, when ICE has given an official and legal "Retainer Request", so the illegal immigrant can be deported before he commits more crimes, and maybe kills American citizens. The recorded history of these occurences are so great, yet you liberals want to pretend that they never happen.
What the hell do you expect the guilty party that ... (show quote)


The way I see it, the California libs are going to allow these illegals to walk the streets until the violent crime brought by these scum forces the issue. Then when they begin to look for help it'll be too late and their bridges will be burned.

It amazes me that these CA screwballs would rather see their state destroyed than to follow law.

Well, it's their choice. I'd caution them that they are running out of time and if their illegals are declared a menace to other states it'll be taken from their hands and dealt with at their cost.

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Oct 21, 2017 13:28:36   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
pafret wrote:
You are insane. Your inability to stick to any topic and the incessant need to interject your vile, hateful spewings into every post is an absolute indicator of your diseased mentality.


TD is a waste of time. He is too stupid to.learn so he makes the same ignorant rants say after day.

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Oct 21, 2017 13:32:23   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
You show your complete ignorance when it comes to guns with stupid and false statements like that. Do you think that we're as dumb as you, and will believe that nonsense?

There is no such thing as a "silencer". There are noise "supressors" that reduces the noise, only down to a certain legal level, and not lower, which is still well loud enough for anyone around to hear the report of firing the gun. But a very costly permit is required to own or posses one. The US Congress is trying to pass a law to do away with the permit required for those supressors, and for good reason. I know many elderly hunters who are nearly deaf and require a hearing aid in each of their ears in order to just be able to communicate with others.

These suppressors, if affordable, because they are very costly, and so are the permits required to own and posses them, are needed to cure this affliction, not so anyone can fire a gun that can't be heard, because that is almost immpossible to make, as well as it is and always will be illegal, because of the law that allows only noise reduction to a certain sound level. This would allow hunters to protect their ears, but still allow all around to hear the report of the gun being fired, by reducing the cost to own and use these "supressors".

Apparently you watch too much TV and movies, and believe everything that you see and hear in them, so watch out for those werewolves during the next full moon. Instead of constantly making stupid statements, such as you have here, why don't you do a little research to learn what you're talking about, before you pass on these stupid statements that have no reality with the truth?

Also you have proven to be completely ignorant about dear hunting, for most states that I know of only allow weapons with the max of three rounds in them, and no hunter that I've ever seen uses an AK-47 or even an AR-15, because they are too inaccurate and their are special rifles that shoot a larger round that hunters use to bring down dear, which many mount huge scopes on. There may be some hunters that use AK-47s or AR-15s, but if there are they are very few and a very small minority, because there are better rifles and ammo for hunting dear. Hunting is a costly sport to use to provide food, and most who do, use the best equipment to do so. That's why they make five round magazines, and I think also some three round magazines, which most states only allow three rounds to be loaded into the five round magazines, and if caught with more, it's a very hefty fine, and I think there may be some states that allow a max of five rounds to be used in guns to hunt gear.



Bad Bob wrote:
tdsrnest you're overlooking the fact deer hunter need a silencer on their AK-47s so they can take 100 shots at a deer.

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Oct 21, 2017 13:42:22   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Randy131 wrote:
You show your complete ignorance when it comes to guns with stupid and false statements like that. Do you think that we're as dumb as you, and will believe that nonsense?

There is no such thing as a "silencer". There are noise "supressors" that reduces the noise, only down to a certain legal level, and not lower, which is still well loud enough for anyone around to hear the report of firing the gun. But a very costly permit is required to own or posses one. The US Congress is trying to pass a law to do away with the permit required for those supressors, and for good reason. I know many elderly hunters who are nearly deaf and require a hearing aid in each of their ears in order to just be able to communicate with others.

These suppressors, if affordable, because they are very costly, and so are the permits required to own and posses them, are needed to cure this affliction, not so anyone can fire a gun that can't be heard, because that is almost immpossible to make, as well as it is and always will be illegal, because of the law that allows only noise reduction to a certain sound level. This would allow hunters to protect their ears, but still allow all around to hear the report of the gun being fired, by reducing the cost to own and use these "supressors".

Apparently you watch too much TV and movies, and believe everything that you see and hear in them, so watch out for those werewolves during the next full moon. Instead of constantly making stupid statements, such as you have here, why don't you do a little research to learn what you're talking about, before you pass on these stupid statements that have no reality with the truth?
You show your complete ignorance when it comes to ... (show quote)


Randy it's got to be true, I saw it on Facebook.

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Oct 21, 2017 13:48:04   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
It sounds more like something that "Snopes" would put out.



Bad Bob wrote:
Randy it's got to be true, I saw it on Facebook.

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Oct 21, 2017 13:50:25   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
When concerning turdsnest, you can't be any closer to the truth than what you have said.



pafret wrote:
You are insane. Your inability to stick to any topic and the incessant need to interject your vile, hateful spewings into every post is an absolute indicator of your diseased mentality.

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Oct 21, 2017 14:34:05   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Randy it's got to be true, I saw it on Facebook.


There are no silencers. A suppressor brings the sound level down to about 139 dbs. That's about the level of a jet engine heard outside the airplane. Still quite loud but less damaging to the tympanic membrane.

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Oct 21, 2017 14:35:09   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
pafret wrote:
You are insane. Your inability to stick to any topic and the incessant need to interject your vile, hateful spewings into every post is an absolute indicator of your diseased mentality.


He needs to be reported. All he does is agitate and interfere.

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