EconomistDon

Peter, you are misrepresenting the equality issue. I don't care who sticks what into whom, sexually, as long as nobody gets hurt. Homos and lesbians can have their happy wingdings, as long as they don't force their lifestyle on anybody else. But when a gay couple legally forces a baker to make them a cake, they are forcing their lifestyle on that baker. The government and the legal system have no business supporting the gay aggression against the baker. The baker has a right to serve or not serve anyone he chooses; this a America --- freedom to do as we please as long as we hurt nobody. Those sorry-assed gays could have gone to another baker and not made a big stink; but they chose to attack the christian baker. "Equality" and individual freedom applies to EVERYONE, including christian bakers.

Ve'hoe

answer the questions put to you,,,,,,

PeterS

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Why am I suppose to do the research to prove your accusation? If STD's are caused by homosexual behavior then lets see the links that prove your argument. If you can't show them then it's your argument and no one elses.



The bible provides historical documentation and there is virtually no society that doesn't document homosexual behavior. That being the case why don't STD's parallel all humanity-- instead they are a fairly modern event starting with the discovery of the new world?



So you think you can stuff homosexuals back in the closet? Do you think that will prevent them from having sex? The only thing laughable is your attitude. Do you really think ostracizing homosexuals is going to make any difference? It's a big liberal world out there and the only thing you will accomplish is them giving you a great big "fuk you."

Whether you and your fellow conservatives like it or not, homosexuals have the same rights as you. If they walk into a bakery for a wedding cake they have a right to one just as you. And if you are horrified of the diseases you imagine them bringing to the world then remain faithful to your wife and tell your children to be certain to use condoms when they have sex--or you can pretend that they won't have sex and then wonder how they came down with STD's. Your choice...

PeterS

How does baking a cake force a lifestyle on someone else. Years ago I owned several pizzerias. Did my customers force their lifestyles on me by ordering a pizza? Does writing: To Sam and Joe on a cake shake a Christian baker to their core instead of writing To Sam and Jo? Just how fragile are you Christians anyway? Same sex marriage is taboo but you have no problem voting for a man who is an admitted adulterer? To the Christian how is one any different than the other--or does voting for an adulterer not force their behavior unto you? Is that the excuse you are using?

Just how does expecting a business owner to treat all customers the same an aggressive behavior? The aggression is by the baker who will only serve people of a specific sexual orientation--expecting to be treated equitably isn't an aggression...

Lonewolf

funny when the baker refused to bake a trump cake for a 9-year-old you all wanted to hang the baker



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JW

I'm sorry, pete, I assumed giving you the CDC as the source of the statistics for homosexual STD statistics would have been sufficient. https://www.cdc.gov/std/default.htm There you go, but you will have to turn a few pages.

You don't understand the storm that is coming. Homosexuals won't be stuffed back in the closet, well, maybe the lucky ones will be. We are dealing with much more than parochial attitudes. We are dealing with genetic impetus and biological nature.

It's about what exists at the core of humanity, not the political niceties or the extortive behaviors of a few committed activists on either side.

As for walking into a bakery and demanding a cake, neither you nor I have that right.

JW

Where on earth did you get that idea. STDs are as old as mankind and even older. Every horny sheep herding society and every invading army has had to deal with STDs.

Granted, as travel has become easier the awareness and the prominence of the problem has increased but it has always been there. The dinosaurs probably had their own versions of them.

EconomistDon

I think that suing the baker and bankrupting his business is AGGRESSION. The little pansies could have gone to another baker, but NO, they had to make a big stinking deal. You mock Christians for being fragile. I say it was the gays' fragile feelings that were hurt, or they wouldn't have made a big stink about it. And don't get me started on fragile feelings when liberal college students demand their Safe Spaces so they don't have to hear a non-liberal opinion. Freedom of speech is burning because of fragile liberals who can't deal with hearing conservative opinions. Antifa has formed to violently shut down any and all conservative speaking engagements. So, apparently liberals believe that free speech, equality, and individual freedom apply only to liberals, not to conservatives and cake bakers.

PeterS

Actually you and I can walk into any business in American and have the right to be served. The days when American businesses could be exclusionary ended in the 60's. As for the rest of your crap--that's all it is is crap--stick to affirming the beliefs of your conservative brothers. Hell with them you could blame the common cold on gays and they would believe it. For the rest of us you are going to have to explain how homosexuality could be around for thousands of years yet, if STD's are caused by homosexual behavior, they have only been around for a few hundred.

EconomistDon

OK Pete. I have a hypothetical question for you. Suppose that some neo-nazis went to a liberal baker asking for a cake decorated with swastikas, to be delivered to a neo-nazi rally. Must that baker, who hates neo-nazis, bake the cake? Remember that there is nothing illegal about neo-nazis or swastikas just as there is nothing illegal about homo-sexuality.

PeterS

And why did the "little pansies" need to go to another baker? So your are telling me that great big Christian Bakers can't stand up to a bunch of little pansies fairy's? And why on earth would liberals want to shut down people who view others as "little pansies?" You're right. Life isn't fair is it...

EconomistDon

I guess we will find out if the "great big Christian Bakers" stood up to the "bunch of little pansies" when the supreme court renders its decision. Either way, the pansies already won, because the baker's business is ruined by legal expenses.

PeterS

There's nothing hypothetical about it--if the baker want's to stay in business he has to serve those who walk in his doors. If he can't do that then he shouldn't have opened his doors to begin with...

JW

Do you actually read what you're responding to? You think STDs have only been around for a few hundred years? I've already told you that STDs are caused by many things but are being spread epidemically by homosexual behavior. I gave you a link to the CDC. What more do you need?

PeterS

That's why you guys stacked the court isn't it? Though I think the need to stack the court in order to get your outcome shows everyone just who the pansies really are...