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Oct 12, 2017 01:39:31   #
PeterS
 
padremike wrote:
When one has no objective moral anchor on a short line in deep water, you can subjectify equality by legitimizing homosexuality or demanding equality for adults seeking sex with juveniles or a thousand other absurd, incoherent, illogical social secular sexual situations. You can be subjective about any absurdity merely by branding it "equality." If you believe homosexuality is healthy, normal, etc, etc, etc, then read the obits in homosexual newspapers and observe, for yourself, the average age of their deaths.
When one has no objective moral anchor on a short ... (show quote)

Look, just because the whole of the world is a slippery slope to you stop putting your word in my mouth. No where did I say I approved of adults seeking sex with juveniles just as I never said I approved of you padres raping the children under your care. I don't! But consensual sex between adults is none of my business. That you find it part of your business only goes to show just how incredibly warped you really are...

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Oct 12, 2017 02:36:45   #
JW
 
PeterS wrote:
So what if there are variations among the human species, that doesn't mean we can't have a equally defined set of rights. If marriage makes a heterosexual couple happy why can't a same sex couple pursue happiness in the same way? Government only enforces equality, it does't create it, governments only responsibility is the ensure that a same sex couple is treated equally as a heterosexual couple would be in the public domain. The whole purpose for governments reason to address Christian merchants who discriminate is to ensure individual rights--rights that existed naturally--just as they did with a mixed race couple a same race couple. Government didn't create the equality; it was simply appointed by "we the people" to enforce it.

And no, cheating isn't the only way to catch a STD, but the fact remains if one is faithful to ones partner the odds of catching a STD is just about nil...
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You amaze me, Peter. You champion the right of homosexuals to create and spread all manner of disease and put the responsibility for public health on every one else.

As I said, everyone has a right, under the law, to equal treatment but people with highly communicable diseases still get quarantined. Criminals get sequestered in prisons. Gainfully employed people still pay taxes. When it is required, young men still get drafted. All those and more are done for the good of the general public. The public good cannot simply be ignored for the sake of political correctness. None of us is immune to the requirements of our cultures or our government demands... or the demands of the majority.


Everyone has a right to equal treatment under the law and that includes the right to have government/society provide whatever protections are possible. Preventing the spread of disease is everyone's responsibility and everyone's expectation.

If you doubt the homosexual role in spreading disease, look up the stats on syphilis, AIDS, HPVs, and many of the other STDs and their growth rates since homosexuality has been foisted on society.

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Oct 12, 2017 03:41:04   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
You amaze me, Peter. You champion the right of homosexuals to create and spread all manner of disease and put the responsibility for public health on every one else.

And how do you know that those "diseases" weren't created by a man sodomizing a woman? You like to point fingers but where is your proof?
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As I said, everyone has a right, under the law, to equal treatment but people with highly communicable diseases still get quarantined. Criminals get sequestered in prisons. Gainfully employed people still pay taxes. When it is required, young men still get drafted. All those and more are done for the good of the general public. The public good cannot simply be ignored for the sake of political correctness. None of us is immune to the requirements of our cultures or our government demands... or the demands of the majority.


Everyone has a right to equal treatment under the law and that includes the right to have government/society provide whatever protections are possible. Preventing the spread of disease is everyone's responsibility and everyone's expectation.

If you doubt the homosexual role in spreading disease, look up the stats on syphilis, AIDS, HPVs, and many of the other STDs and their growth rates since homosexuality has been foisted on society.
As I said, everyone has a right, under the law, to... (show quote)

Well, according to the bible homosexuality was "foisted" on society on day one--whether that's what is responsible for STD's though is fully another matter and one that has only been proven through suspicion. And where, in anything I wrote, did I say that the public good was to be ignored? But is the case you are making against same sex marriage that it is contrary to public good? Well you do know that men and women sodomize each other don't you? If sodomy is the origin how do you know homosexuality is where it began? And are we to put government cameras in our bedrooms in the excuse of public good? If not, how do you propose we prevent people from having unsafe sex?

https://www.news-medical.net/health/History-of-Sexually-Transmitted-Disease.aspx

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Oct 12, 2017 04:19:17   #
JW
 
[quote=PeterS]

And how do you know that those "diseases" weren't created by a man sodomizing a woman? You like to point fingers but where is your proof?

Actually, syphilis appears to have begun by some shepherd buggering his favorite ewe. AIDS appears to have some relationship to African Green Monkeys. How these things originate is secondary to how they are being spread. Could some be from heterosexual sodomy? Of course, but again, it's how they are being spread and the CDC has all the proof you would like. Check the stats on STDs among MSM.


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Well, according to the bible homosexuality was "foisted" on society on day one--whether that's what is responsible for STD's though is fully another matter and one that has only been proven through suspicion. And where, in anything I wrote, did I say that the public good was to be ignored? But is the case you are making against same sex marriage that it is contrary to public good? Well you do know that men and women sodomize each other don't you? If sodomy is the origin how do you know homosexuality is where it began? And are we to put government cameras in our bedrooms in the excuse of public good? If not, how do you propose we prevent people from having unsafe sex?

https://www.news-medical.net/health/History-of-Sexually-Transmitted-Disease.aspx

One day? Really? What does the Bible have to do with the discussion you and I are having?

Your other questions, except the last one, are irrelevant also. How do we prevent people from having unsafe sex? We can't, but we can limit it by reasserting the social stigmas and stop promoting dangerous behaviors. Pretending homosexuality is even marginally normal is laughable... or it would be if it wasn't so damaging to society.

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Oct 12, 2017 05:47:50   #
Kevyn
 
JW wrote:
You amaze me, Peter. You champion the right of homosexuals to create and spread all manner of disease and put the responsibility for public health on every one else.

As I said, everyone has a right, under the law, to equal treatment but people with highly communicable diseases still get quarantined. Criminals get sequestered in prisons. Gainfully employed people still pay taxes. When it is required, young men still get drafted. All those and more are done for the good of the general public. The public good cannot simply be ignored for the sake of political correctness. None of us is immune to the requirements of our cultures or our government demands... or the demands of the majority.


Everyone has a right to equal treatment under the law and that includes the right to have government/society provide whatever protections are possible. Preventing the spread of disease is everyone's responsibility and everyone's expectation.

If you doubt the homosexual role in spreading disease, look up the stats on syphilis, AIDS, HPVs, and many of the other STDs and their growth rates since homosexuality has been foisted on society.
You amaze me, Peter. You champion the right of ho... (show quote)

You realize that lesbians have a much lower rate of STD infection than heterosexuals including married couples. Using your logic wouldn’t it be best for society to encourage lesbians?

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Oct 12, 2017 10:10:04   #
Morgan
 
PeterS wrote:
Good question.


Valid question Peter, unfortunately, this is the prevailing associated thinking, just as when they've made bartenders responsible for the man who leaves the restaurant/bar after came in, drank too much and decides to drive home.

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Oct 12, 2017 10:11:24   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
A Wedding cake is not a Gun . . .

Unless it's a Shot-Gun Wedding

PeterS wrote:
Good question.

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Oct 12, 2017 10:34:39   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Kevyn wrote:
You realize that lesbians have a much lower rate of STD infection than heterosexuals including married couples. Using your logic wouldn’t it be best for society to encourage lesbians?


People who are adamant in opposing the morality given in the Bible ...portray themselves as obvious Luciferians...and G*D has never sanctioned homosexualism of any sort...

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Oct 12, 2017 11:02:48   #
Chocura750
 
The premise that selling a wedding cake to a gay couple to use in their wedding is participating in the wedding is wrong. It's discrimination. Same as claiming that funding a health insurance plan that covers birth control is practicing birth control, it isn't. It too is discrimination.

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Oct 12, 2017 11:12:49   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Chocura750 wrote:
The premises that selling a wedding cake to a gay couple to use in their wedding is participating in the wedding is wrong.


Choosing not to be participant in a union of epic evil in any way, shape or form...shows respect for morality...but only GOD fearing people's understand that... Luciferians don't..

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Oct 12, 2017 11:18:11   #
Big Bass
 
Chocura750 wrote:
The premise that selling a wedding cake to a gay couple to use in their wedding is participating in the wedding is wrong. It's discrimination. Same as claiming that funding a health insurance plan that covers birth control is practicing birth control, it isn't. It too is discrimination.


It's wrong because YOU say so?? Why is it discrimination?? Are you saying everybody must think like you, or they are breaking the law?? They do have a right under the 1st Amendment, or do you now wish to take that right away from Christians?? That would be discrimination.

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Oct 12, 2017 11:59:01   #
JW
 
Kevyn wrote:
You realize that lesbians have a much lower rate of STD infection than heterosexuals including married couples. Using your logic wouldn’t it be best for society to encourage lesbians?


That is actually not true. Check the CDC stats.

STDs are contracted in direct proportion to the number of partners one has. Lesbians generally have fewer than gay men but far more than straight women...

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Oct 12, 2017 12:03:05   #
JW
 
Chocura750 wrote:
The premise that selling a wedding cake to a gay couple to use in their wedding is participating in the wedding is wrong. It's discrimination. Same as claiming that funding a health insurance plan that covers birth control is practicing birth control, it isn't. It too is discrimination.


Only an idiot would claim those things constitute practicing. The concern is p r o m o t i n g them.

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Oct 12, 2017 15:22:15   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
JW wrote:
Only an idiot would claim those things constitute practicing. The concern is p r o m o t i n g them.



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Oct 12, 2017 16:26:29   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Kevyn wrote:
You realize that lesbians have a much lower rate of STD infection than heterosexuals including married couples. Using your logic wouldn’t it be best for society to encourage lesbians?


About as much sense if you are short of money simply rob a convenience store.

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