Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia

Perhaps you can understand that underlying all of those simple sayings is the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and ultimately God. All of it begins with Agape, which is the Love of God and the Love of Neighbor, followed by the Ten Commandments and its "brother" Noahide Law, and then you discover from these basic tenets the various sayings that are the common sense of humanity originally given to man by God. So, it is quite natural that those sayings would spark Christians to acknowledge them for the common sense they understand from God.

badbobby Loc: texas

not to dispute your word Manning--but
Atheists can live by golden rules
and the post was about golden rules
not religion

Mr Bombastic

Where do you think those golden rules came from?

E

I merely suggested that people who need to quote the bible or koran, just give the quote. We don't need a reference to chapter or verse. If it is a good quote, we can believe in it.

But they always have to justify it with their bible or koran as if God actually gave them that quote and therefore they are never wrong and can't be contested. They are books, written by men, not any god.

And now I'm some sort of evil devil just because I don't believe in their books. Does that include all Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs? If you are happy in your religion and your manifestation of God, fine. I'm happy with my beliefs and yours are no better or worse then mine.

And isn't that so much about what we argue about here on OPP. The right of everyone to state their opinions, no matter how much you agree with them or not. Just be respectful.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I see matters in much the same way, E.

Mr Bombastic

So tell me. How did 40+ authors write the Bible over a 1500 year period, without any collaboration, without contradicting each other? Do you have any clue just how impossible that is? If that does not clue you in about who really wrote the Bible, then you deserve your ultimate fate. There is more evidence that Jesus is who He claims to be than there is that George Washington was President of the United States. Open your eyes.

E

So tell me. How did 40+ authors write the Bible over a 1500 year period, without any collaboration, without contradicting each other? >>> In what language. Certainly not English, the one you read and swear to. And how is it that the various translations are slightly different. Not so? Then why redo them?

Wasn't it the book of Genesis (I think that is the one) where they said that God built the earth in six days and rested on the seventh. If there was no earth, how did they measure the days. And if your god is so powerful, why would he need a day of rest?

Do you have any clue just how impossible that is? >>> Not impossible. You read what was written and just add to it.

If that does not clue you in about who really wrote the Bible, then you deserve your ultimate fate. >>> And you can determine that for me. Lordy lordy, we have a messenger from the lord among us.

There is more evidence that Jesus is who He claims to be than there is that George Washington was President of the United States. >>> Now that is laughable. There is ZERO evidence that Jesus is who you said he is. There is only faith. Just as their is only faith that Mohammad is who he said he was.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible, (KJV); Conformable to the edition of 1611, commonly known as the authorized or King James Version.

Not being a Biblical scholar, out of curiosity, I found these in a quick search. I only listed the first ten. All I spot-checked were found correct. I would be pleased for you to show/prove them otherwise.

1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did (2 Samuel 24:1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 21:1)

2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?

Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?

Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?

Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)

9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?

After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)

10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?

Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)

Mr Bombastic

I'll only reply to one thing you posted. Have you ever read the preface to a novel where the author admits that he made a mistake in the book or even several mistakes? It happens a lot. Now consider the same author writing a series of several books. The chance of mistakes increases exponentially. With me so far? Now, try to imagine many authors writing about the same thing over a 1500 year period. Do you begin to see the difficulty?

teabag09

51. That's why you have that little printer icon for. Mike

teabag09

Try coconut oil and organic vinegar and organic honey. Look it up, works for some gut not all. Hope the best for you cranky. Mike

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Okay, but without knowing if you intended to address 'E' or moi, I will ask you, my friend: Then, why would you dare post the following..."So tell me. How did 40+ authors write the Bible over a 1500 year period, without any collaboration, without contradicting each other?"

If one is so audacious as to assume no one will fact-check his statements, then he is asking to be put on notice for his mistake(s). I still have ninety-one contradictions from the Bible on my list. IMO, that does not diminish the Bible nearly so much as it does those who err in its name. I still find it probably the most amazing publication in history.

teabag09

You just proved E's point. We all take our own interpretations of what the scriptures say. Almost every day they are finding new scrolls which throw more light on the truth of the times. Mr. B, this is what I was referencing about you on an earlier blog. Think about it, you'll figure it out. Mike

E

Thanks. I'm drinking cheery juice right now. Also supposed to be good.

teabag09

My suggestion, as this is a mostly political blog we leave Religion to the individuals and if you want to argue religion, go to one of those blogs. I was raise Roman Catholic, was an Altar Boy and still believe in some tenets. I am though, anti catholic church and the PEDO pope as well as the prod. churches. They've all become like the political parties and are nothing more than money raising entities. I take great comfort in some of my early learning's from the church which give me solace in believing in Jesus, God's forgiveness and my archangel Michael. If it's hokey pokey, so be it, it gives me solace. That being said, if you want to discuss religion, go to IM. Mike