Your opinion only, which does not make it so, since it ignores the real problem of fascists and who they really are in our society today. Those trying to force their wills on the rest of us, buy masking up and arming themselves to go to what they describe are protests, which every protest that they've particiapted in have turned into riots, with much destruction of public and private property, and physical violence perpetrated on everyone who does not agree with them. If you happened to be standing around and watching, but not participating in the riot, then you're their enemy, and are attacked and assaulted also.

This is exactly what has occured in all the Berkley campus riots, and the riots against a planned peaceful rally march in Charlottesville, which was planned well in advance, and the marchers had to apply twice for a permit before one was issued to them. The rally march was in support of the preservation of our historical statues and monuments, no matter what those statues and monuments are claimed to mean to others.

So who were the fascists? The ones who planned and applied for and got a permit well in advance, or the ones who masked-up and armed, for a protest that they had no permit for. If no violence was planned, then why wear a mask to hide your identity, and why bring arms to a peaceful, even though illegal, protest?

Well their attitude is somewhat militant, so I guess you could say it's the closest the left ever gets to Brownshirt mode. But we have a collection of white nationalist movements that are much closer... in fact, some are almost identical to Nazi Brownshirts... some in fact ARE self-admitted Nazis. So, it's a bit idiotic to say Antifa is the closest thing today to Nazi Brownshirts.



I'll leave with some symbolism, since that's such a big part of fascist culture... These are flags representing the right-wing groups that you don't seem think have any resemblance to Nazi Brownshirts.

I'll start with the image used to promote the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville...

http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2017/8/19/521409-unitetheright_joinordie.jpg

It's a good place to start because it pulls in symbols from a number of major advocates of white nationalism that were invited to the rally... Look at the letters...

K = Kekistan - an imaginary country (rolling my eyes) for white people only... Here's their flag...

http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2017/8/19/521855-kekistan_flag.jpg ... yeah, that doesn't look ANYTHING like a Nazi war flag...

A.C. = Anti-Communist - which the Brownshirts were... Hitler HATED the communists.... Here's their flag...

http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2017/8/19/t1-523955-anti_communist.jpg

L. = Libertarian (nationalist, not liberal), so a flag for their own distinction, which is actually one of the National Socialist flags... I don't quite understand the association between Nazi-style socialism and Libertarians but hey, I didn't design the flier. Note the eagle is holding a fasces, which is the symbol of fascism.

http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2017/8/19/t1-524789-unitetheright_fasces.jpg

skipping to N.S. - National Socialists...

http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2017/8/19/525630-ocialist_movement_usa.svg_.jpg

Got a swastika on that one...

Here's another one... Vanguard America...

http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2017/8/19/531080-vanguard_america.jpg
Again, notice the reoccuring theme here the eagle and the fasces.

So, now you know why your statement made me laugh my ass off.

We have a serious debate going on now regarding Confederate Statues, which does rile up people, but the issue should be debated peacefully and respectfully. I live three blocks away from Monument Avenue here in Richmond, VA, and very near the statue of J.E.B. Stuart. For me, it would be a shame to tear down the Monument Avenue statues of Lee, Jackson, and Stuart, as they represent historical truths about their devotion to Virginia, and they do serve as a reminder that they fought for Virginia, not slavery, yet they also serve very cogently as a reminder that slavery is over and has been over with for 152 years. Looked at that way, it seems senseless to tear them down. One might ask "why now?" after all this time, must they be subjected to hate?

I print the following only to provide evidence that both sides had permits, but at different parks. Both sides visited both parks. So, in essence, your opinion was based on non-factual 'facts.'

In blaming both sides for the violence in Charlottesville that left one person dead, President Trump twice asserted that the people protesting white supremacists and neo-Nazis lacked a permit, unlike the groups that gathered to protest the possible removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

But that’s turned out to be false, according to documents and interviews obtained by Justin Wm. Moyer.

Walt Heinecke, a professor at the University of Virginia, told Moyer that he received a “special events certificate of approval” for events at McGuffey Park and Justice Park — sites blocks from Emancipation Park, where white nationalists had a permit for a Saturday rally. A car allegedly driven by James Alex Fields Jr. rammed into counter-protesters, killing a 32-year-old woman, on Fourth Street, which runs adjacent to Justice Park.

Charlottesville spokeswoman Miriam I. Dickler told Moyer that only one permit was issued for Emancipation Park — the one received by white nationalists staging the “Unite the Right” rally. However, counter-protesters did not need permits to protest that rally, she said.

“Please bear in mind that people do not need a permit to enter a public park, even when another event is scheduled to take place there, nor are they required to have one to be on streets or sidewalks adjacent to or outside the park,” Dickler said in an email.

At one point, the president appeared to refer to a march the night before the death at the main rally. “There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before,” he said. “If you look, they were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.”

On Friday night, about 250 white nationalists carrying torches marched and chanted anti-Semitic slogans on the U-Va. campus, where they encountered about 30 students who had locked arms around the base of a statue of Thomas Jefferson, according to a Washington Post timeline. Brief clashes took place, resulting in some injuries. U-Va. allows access to open spaces, and so permits were not required for such marches, according to a statement by U-Va. President Teresa A. Sullivan condemning the “intimidating and abhorrent behavior displayed by the alt-right protestors.”

White nationalists, met by counter-protesters, held a Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville after torch-bearing protesters marched through the University of Virginia campus the night before. During the rally, a vehicle plowed into a crowd marching peacefully through downtown Charlottesville.

On Saturday, when the major violence occurred, people started gathering in Emancipation Park. Charlottesville Police Chief Al S. Thomas Jr. told The Post the white-nationalist groups went back on a plan that would have kept them separated from the counter-protesters. The two sides started clashing, and by 11:22 a.m. police had declared an unlawful assembly.

“I think what the president is trying to say is that counter-protesters did not have a permit to be in Emancipation Park,” Heinicke said. “That’s irrelevant.” He added: “Either way you cut it, the president got it wrong.”

President Trump twice claimed that counter-protesters lacked a permit to demonstrate in Charlottesville. But they did have permits for rallies on Saturday — and they did not need one to go into or gather near Emancipation Park, where white nationalists scheduled their rally. No permits were needed to march on the U-Va. campus on Friday night.

The American Left Is Now The Party Of Fascism !!! History Repeats It's-Self !!!


August 9, 2017

The American Left Is Now The Party Of Fascism. The Democrats’ 'big lie', blaming own Fascist sins on Trump and Republicans.

Dinesh D'Souza
http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/sick-twist-american-left-is-now-party-of-fascism/


We hear the word “fascist” a whole lot these days: Trump is a fascist, if not a Nazi; The Republican Party is the fascist party.

As for the left, the Democrats, they present themselves as the anti-fascists, the people fighting fascism. We can see this in the names of leftist groups like Antifa, which stands for anti-fascism. Yet, when we look around, we see the Democratic and leftist protesters who are disrupting the inauguration. Who are organizing violent rallies around the country, who are stopping campus speakers from speaking.

These are people who seem to be using fascist and Nazi tactics. The masked Antifa thugs carrying weapons seem eerily similar to the fascist Blackshirts and the Nazi Brownshirts.

So isn’t it strange that the people purporting to fight fascism resemble the fascists in shutting down speech. And disrupting democratic debate through the use, or threats, of violence?

We need to look at fascism more closely and ask: Is fascism really a phenomenon of the left or of the right? Let’s begin with the remarkable statement by Adolf Hitler in a 1927 speech. “We are socialists,” he said. “We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation and we are determined to destroy the system under all conditions.” Does that sound like Donald Trump? Actually, it sounds a lot more like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders.

Hitler changed the name of the German Workers Party to the National Socialist German Workers Party. He wanted to emphasize that the Nazis were socialists, and that Nazi economic policy involved complete state control of the private sector. Indeed, the very name Nazi is a compression of the two terms “national” and “socialist.”

All the leading figures of early fascism, not merely in Germany, but also in Italy, France and England – were men of the left. Most of them moved seamlessly from Marxism and socialism, to fascism and Nazism during the 1920s and 1930s.

Here are some examples. Jean Allemane, famous for his role in the Dreyfus case, one of the great figures of French socialism, became a fascist. So did the socialist organizer Georges Valois. Marcel Deat, the founder of the Parti Socialiste de France, eventually quit and started a pro-fascist party in 1936. Jaques Doriot, a French communist, moved his Parti Populaire Francais into the fascist camp. Belgian socialist writer Henri de Man transitioned into becoming a fascist theoretician. In England, Oswald Mosley, a socialist and Labor Party Member of Parliament, broke with the laborites because he found them insufficiently radical. He later founded the British Union of Fascists and became the country’s leading Nazi sympathizer.

In Germany, there was a similar traffic from socialism to fascism. To give a single example, the socialist playwright Gerhart Hauptmann embraced Hitler’s National Socialism and produced plays during the Third Reich. After the war, he called himself a communist and staged his productions in Soviet-dominated East Berlin.

In Italy, philosopher Giovanni Gentile moved from Marxism to become fascism’s leading intellectual. Many Italian labor organizers made the same journey: Ottavio Dinale, Tullio, Masotti, Carlo Silvestri and Umberto Pasella. The socialist writer Agostino Lanzillo joined Mussolini’s parliament as a member of the fascist party.
Nicola Bombacci, one of the founders of the Italian Community Party, became Mussolini’s top adviser in 1943.
Gentile’s disciple Ugo Spirito, who also served Mussolini, moved from Marxism to fascism and then back to Marxism. Like Hauptmann, Spirito became a communist sympathizer after World War II and called for a new “synthesis” between communism and fascism.

All of this is incomprehensible if fascism is considered somehow “right wing.” None of these men saw it that way. They didn’t “convert” from left to right. Rather, they viewed themselves as moving seamlessly from one form of socialism to another. From a purely class-based socialism to a broader form of socialism that took into account class as well as national loyalties.

We can see this in the example of Mussolini, who established the world’s first fascist regime in Rome, a decade before Hitler came to power. Mussolini was the leading Marxist in Italy, the recognized leader of Italian socialism. After his successful March on Rome, Lenin sent his congratulations, praising Mussolini as a fellow revolutionary on the left. Mussolini’s career shows how fascism grew out of Marxism. Marx had predicted that the increased impoverishment of workers would cause a socialist revolution to erupt in the most advanced industrial countries: Germany and Great Britain.

That didn’t happen. This created the famous “crisis of Marxism” in the late 19th and early 20th century. Out of that crisis came two new forms of socialism: Leninist Bolshevism and Mussolini’s Fascism.

“The foundation of fascism,” Mussolini writes in his “Autobiography,” “is the conception of the state. Fascism conceives the State as an absolute. In comparison to which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the State. For us Fascists, the State … represents the immanent spirit of the nation.” Replace the word “fascism” with “progressivism,” and we could be hearing these words recited at a Democratic National Convention.

Mussolini broke with Marx on a single point. Marx insisted that workers are loyal only to their class. “The working man,” Marxists liked to say, “has no country.” Mussolini knew that people are no less attached to their nation than to their occupation. Consequently, Mussolini, like Hitler, embraced socialism of a special kind, namely national socialism.

Like the Marxists, the fascists and the Nazis also embraced violence as a revolutionary concept. Nazi violence involved disrupting campus events, threatening and beating up dissenters. And enforcing a conformity of thought and practice in line with the regnant ideology. Notice the close similarity between this fascist bullying and the conduct of the American left today.

In ideology and in tactics, the American left today is the party of fascism. The only difference is that it denies its true pedigree. Their big lie is to blame their own sins on Trump and the Republicans. In a sick twist, the real fascists in America pretend to be anti-fascists. And accuse the true anti-fascists of being fascists.

So the Antifa and BLM protesters masked-up and took weapons to protest against the white supremist, KKK, and alt-right, something that all peaceful protesters do, right. Antifa and BLM have never attended any event that didn't turn into a riot, and they have always mask-up to hide their identities, and they also always bring weapons for what they have planned. It happened that way on the Berkley campus in California, and now again in Charlottesville. Just because you don't like what other people believe, doesn't give you the right to attack and assault them because of your hatred for them. This is still the USA, and all of us have constitutional rights, even the deplorable and abhorrent. The lopsided description that you give is not the full truth, because it was actually the other side that did most of the violence.

But that poor woman who was accidentally killed, we still don't know the full reason why that accident happened, for some people who saw the entire incident said the very young man driving the vehicle was just trying to leave, driving very slowly and cautiously at first, until the Antifa and BLM started throwing bottles, rocks, and other debris at him and his car from both sides of the street, which he then got scared and started trying to get out of the way as quickly as possible and lost control of his vehicle, and that's when the accident occurred. But you've already decided he did it on purpose, because the 20 year old wanted to kill those who were attacking him with the bottles, rocks, and debris, because you believe he is a hater, but not any of the Antia and BLM, but time will tell, when they finally release the reason for the accident, for it wasn't a planned incident.

But just explain one thing to us all, why do the Antifa and BLM always mask-up at all the events that they attend, what is their reasoning for that, because there were no reports of any of the white supremist, KKK, and alt-right who were wearing masks and hiding their indentities at Charlottesville?

So the Antifa and BLM protesters masked-up and took weapons to protest against the white supremist, KKK, and alt-right, something that all peaceful protesters do, right. Antifa and BLM have never attended any event that didn't turn into a riot, and they have always mask-up to hide their identities, and they also always bring weapons for what they have planned. It happened that way on the Berkley campus in California, and now again in Charlottesville. Just because you don't like what other people believe, doesn't give you the right to attack and assault them because of your hatred for them. This is still the USA, and all of us have constitutional rights, even the deplorable and abhorrent. The lopsided description that you give is not the full truth, because it was actually the other side that did most of the violence.

But that poor woman who was accidentally killed, we still don't know the full reason why that accident happened, for some people who saw the entire incident said the very young man driving the vehicle was just trying to leave, driving very slowly and cautiously at first, until the Antifa and BLM started throwing bottles, rocks, and other debris at him and his car from both sides of the street, which he then got scared and started trying to get out of the way as quickly as possible and lost control of his vehicle, and that's when the accident occurred. But you've already decided he did it on purpose, because the 20-year-old wanted to kill those who were attacking him with the bottles, rocks, and debris, because you believe he is a hater, but not any of the Antia and BLM, but time will tell, when they finally release the reason for the accident, for it wasn't a planned incident.

But just explain one thing to us all, why do the Antifa and BLM always mask-up at all the events that they attend, what is their reasoning for that, because there were no reports of any of the white supremacists, KKK, and alt-right who were wearing masks and hiding their identities at Charlottesville?

They don't have to admit to it, it is historical fact, and never in history has any right winger ever been or became a fascist, the left just likes to label their opposition with their sins, as they try to deny the facts of history.

Just like in Charlottesville, where the violence started with the AntiFa and BLM attacking the abhorrent white supremist, KKK, and alt-right for exorcising their constitutional rights. The AntiFa and BLM only started the violence because of their hatred, and then blamed the ones they attacked and assaulted first, for defending themselves. Since the mainstream media are all liberal biased, they repeated blaming the ones who were attacked and assaulted, who fought back trying to defend themselves, for all the violence, since the ones who actually started the violence, and blamed the ones they attacked and assaulted, are advocacy groups for all liberals, progressives, and Democrats.

The lies and "Fake News" never stops, because the liberals, progressives, and Democrats never stop their illegal actions caused by their hatred for their opponents, and those who report the news are the liberal biased mainstream media, lap dogs for all liberals, progressives, and Democrats.

Randy, is there any limit to the assumptions/presumptions that you foster without basis? Your perception of me, for instance, is so far off base that it boggles my mind. The only protestors I would defend in the Charlottesville riots were the non-violent ones from either/both sides. The basic cut 'n paste I posted was to point out your falling short of the truth in your earlier comments that only one side of the protestors had a permit. If you had read and comprehended all of the article, you would know that is not true. You are such a frenetic case of simmering anger and bias that you (as the old saying goes) can't see the forest for the trees. I will not dignify your assumptions of me by responding to your attacks on what you perceive as my views/beliefs on the entire matter of Charlottesville. You seem to have determined that all on your own, magically.

Defending the truth is not the same as defending any individuals in this or any matter. As I stated at the beginning of the post you are responding to here, the article clearly points out what I posted it for: Both sides had permits, yet in response to the purpose of my post, you totally avoided your misstatements from your earlier posts/comments about permits.